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Keystone park crew is not killing it

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Downtofilm
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I guess Colorado has had some pretty shitty weather the past week and with the big jump open, no one was really able to hit it because of snow and wind. The weather has cleared up this week and they are now choosing to close the jump the week before Dew and World cup.

Kind of a bummer for all of the euros, and anyone else who went to Colorado a couple weeks early to train for the world cup.

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Dec 10 2013 9:14PM
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MaryO
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Ungrateful!! These athletes have a lot on the line with 5 Olympic qualifiers between now and February. There is a huge amt of stress to perform to your highest level starting with the Dew!! Many have traveled very very far, spending lots of money, just to session the sizable jumps only A51 has right now. The riders practicing for the Dew haven't had a lot of practice, with wind and snow being a huge factor last week. It's not safe to go into the Dew not having had an adequate amt of time preparing, I just don't understand Keystones timing on this. It's rediculous.


Dec 11 2013 10:33AM
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M3TRO
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ridiculous..?

the Dew, the Dew, the Dew!
Dec 11 2013 11:46AM
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winelips
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Super lol at all the pros getting that mad over not being able to hit jumps. What a fucking joke this sport is becoming.
Dec 11 2013 11:47AM
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Blurst
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Yes unbelievably ungrateful. Its a public mountain, they could have chosen to stay at Laxx like some of them said until today. They are lucky that keystone had these jumps in the first place.
Dec 11 2013 12:09PM
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onenerdykid
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Considering that about 80% of the European/overseas pros have to pay their own way to get to CO, I would be pretty pissed too.
Dec 11 2013 12:15PM
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ski0
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Except everyone is not on equal footing. What about those who live in summit county and got to session those XL jumps for the last week? What about the euro kids who are training at LAAX? It only fucks over people who came down a week early to train for the FIS World Cup / Gran Prix actually.

In my mind, Keystone should realize that they have top level athletes and olympians that have come to train before a major event and they should keep the jumps open until the Copper mt. training begins . Of course they don't HAVE to open those jumps, it would just be the cool thing to do...
Dec 11 2013 12:47PM
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jvskinn
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I have heard that the recent extremely cold weather caused the water sources for snowmaking to freeze, making building/maintaining the larger jumps hard to do.
Dec 11 2013 1:11PM
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ericman
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Fuck Kai Mahler, makes himself look so stupid
Dec 11 2013 1:29PM
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Sparta
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yeah, they should have respectfully messaged keystone the way Tanner would have.... wait...
Dec 11 2013 1:39PM
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Sparta
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so many people were saying the other day that freeskiing is all about not giving a fuck and doing what you want and disregarding being disrespectful, and now we we want freeskiers to be respectful? seems like people here will back Tanner being a douche but if a comp skier speaks his mind, he is called a whiny bitch. If something got in the way of Tanner's goals, he would kick and scream like a little girl
Dec 11 2013 1:49PM
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JimmyRecard
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This
Dec 11 2013 1:50PM
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skodeo7
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What would be the fun in that?
Dec 11 2013 2:15PM
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PeterNorth
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AWWW i fell so bad for all the pros that get to ski ALL year long and then this happens. not.... who cares
Dec 11 2013 2:20PM
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Saga.
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different strokes for different folks. Some people like to go out with friends casually cruising groomers and others like to hit big jumps and learn the hardest tricks possible for competitions. Who's to say any one is better than another.
Dec 11 2013 2:23PM
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1337
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People have never heard of a park rebuild? Some people seriously expect that 110% of the time the park will be there and open for them to ski? Do some people legitimately not understand how much work goes into building a park, and especially how hard the guys at keystone work to keep that park as one of the smoothest in the US?

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Dec 11 2013 2:37PM
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Crankset
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hahahahhahah fucking park rats.

Bitching about 'bad weather', complaining about endless pow days.

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Dec 11 2013 2:40PM
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Thadius.Castle
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Wahhh. The biggest jumps we have here on the East Coast are 35' ish.
Dec 11 2013 2:58PM
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snocompton
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You guys are unbelievable. Its not a matter of entitlement or arrogance its a matter of getting ready for the fucking Olympics. If you had flown thousands of miles and spent an equal amount of money to hit 2 of the only decent sized jumps in the WORLD you'd be upset too. These guys are preparing for quite possibly the biggest event of their lives and to just undercut all of the hard work and effort they've done over the last few years and call them whiney bitches is so asinine.

The level of stupidity in this thread just hurts. Just take 2 seconds and try to imagine what it must be like attempting to qualify for the Olympics to represent your country. There is not a single person on this site who can relate to that kind of hard work and effort. If you'd flown half way across the world to specifically hit 2 features and then to have them taken away last minute, you'd be upset too.
Dec 11 2013 4:06PM
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EternalJens
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This, they probably have a reason for fixing the jumps. Unfortunately it's bad timing, but it's not like Keystones doing it purposely to deny people the right to ski big jumps. Be thankful that these guys are actually putting in work to maintain these jumps.

On the other hand, I really dislike how people choose to refer to skiing as training. I guess that's what it basically is, however it makes it sound really boring. Even though I understand that you need to practice a lot for comp skiing this whole "training" attitude kind of disgusts me, I wish people would focus more on portraying their training as having fun. Look at Henrik for example, you never see him talking about training. Hes always having fun, while pretty much maintaining a permanent spot on the podium. More skiiers need to get on this attitude!

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Dec 11 2013 4:49PM
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GayWolf420
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yeah shit doesnt happen overnight. this isn't a "fuck competition skiers" thing. im just amused that they cant seem to figure out that jump lines take a few days to build.
Dec 11 2013 4:56PM
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yuck
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wow its almost as if skiing is a weather-dependent sport or something!

damn pros these days
Dec 11 2013 5:05PM
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Sherm.
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Yup
Dec 11 2013 5:08PM
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Ali_Dibden
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Totally agree with you there mate!
Dec 11 2013 5:22PM
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yuck
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im sure everyone understands their frustration, thats not where the apparent sense of entitlement is stemming from. pro skiers, out of everyone, should understand the concepts of intangible weather and park maintenance. Im not trying to detract from the fact that its a very shitty situation for these skiers and they are obviously under a huge amount of pressure, but i still think they should all be able to understand the idea that weather is unpredictable and that jumps especially need to be maintained so that theyre safe.

now, i dont know 100% what is going on with the situation here and I havent read every post in this thread. so if the jumps are closed unnecessarily or something lik that, that I missed, that changes things and I can see why theyd be pissed. but mostly I think theyve been plagued by bad luck and not an incompetent park staff. its early in the season, so everyone knows that parks are not completely perfect yet
Dec 11 2013 5:42PM
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The_RaginAsian
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quit your bitching. try skiing mt hood meadows all season. our jumps suck ass all season
Dec 11 2013 5:44PM
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snocompton
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Are you training for the Olympics?
Dec 11 2013 6:07PM
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Primo
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The pro line jumps usually aren't even open yet at this time this year. People are lucky they even built those first before the mid line...
Dec 11 2013 6:14PM
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Thadius.Castle
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For real, the jumps Breck had up before the Dew Tour course were meh. Those two were money, and they were lucky to train on them at all this early into the season.
Dec 11 2013 6:16PM
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TOAST.
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I wish we could close our parks to work on shit.
Dec 11 2013 6:40PM
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matthasaurusrex
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"its a matter of getting ready for the fucking Olympics"

well theres your problem... not everyone gives a fuck about how important olympics are.


football field is closed for pesticide spray.
Dec 11 2013 7:12PM
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icon1234
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Actually a public display is the best way on getting a companies attention. Could the athletes been a bit more 'professional' in their criticism? Sure. But generally professional skiers, actually professional athletes in general, aren't the brightest bunch...

But on another note, Keystone really fucked this one up. Just horrible time management by them, this is equivalent to a theme park closing their most popular roller coaster for scheduled maintenance (aka nothing wrong with it) during a very popular time. They should of planned accordingly and realized this is a horrible time to reshape their jumps.

Also to the kids saying "its a public park you should be grateful..." wtf public park? LOL? Last time I checked it costs close to a hundred fucking dollars for a lift ticket at keystone, there is nothing public about that. They are known to have the best parks in the world, that is why people pay that much money to ski there, by not having jumps they are fucking up their job.
Dec 11 2013 7:20PM
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matthasaurusrex
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plz remember how sick skiing is ^^^^^^
Dec 11 2013 7:24PM
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HabitualShred
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Thats rough. Too bad they could figure this all out. Bad vibes going around Keystone
Dec 11 2013 8:05PM
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RussellK141
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so this means that the Dew Tour is going to be more about which skier is most versatile vs. which has their dub muscle memory on lock? I'm fine with that.

also means that Keystone will have the jumps open on Saturday when I ski there? I'm fine with that too.

is my point of view selfish? yes. are those bitching about the jumps being closed acting selfish? yes. such is life.
Dec 11 2013 8:08PM
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skiierman
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Yeah, you're right... progression is for pussies.
Dec 11 2013 8:23PM
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SamMcChesney
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shut the fuck up skiierman. Whats the problem with PROFESSIONAL athletes taking their sport seriously. Sure the root of this sport is going and having fun with your friends, but without a little seriousness here and there, nothing would ever get done and this sport would be a complete joke.

anyways I'm pretty sure if you were in a pros shoes, you would take the exact opposite side you are taking, just because you like to disagree.


fuck off skiierman.
Dec 11 2013 8:36PM
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theabortionator
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I'm pretty sure they were building stuff for another mountains in the off season in addition to getting all their own shit ready. Could be wrong but I think it was keystone.
Dec 11 2013 8:53PM
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theabortionator
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No jump line at keystone?!?!?!?!!?


Thanks Obama
Dec 11 2013 8:56PM
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skiierman
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You wouldn't know a joke if it was posted on your fucking face.
Dec 11 2013 8:59PM
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TOAST.
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Yea. Jumps or not, being able to build during the day would be so much nicer. Also, being able to close the park for a week so we could blow enough snow to make jumps would be nice.
Dec 11 2013 9:21PM
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noparking
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you sound like a whiney bitch and an all around miserable person if this the shit you waste your time complaining about.
Dec 11 2013 9:37PM
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Queen_Selassie
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Some pretty pathetic comments actually. The only thing funny is how entitled all those euros sound. The kids saying they need to "train huge rotations before world cup" obviously won't win if they don't have the tricks on lock. Much respect loss for Kai and others bitching cause park crew wants to rebuild and add a 3rd jump. It's the athletes own problem if they were counting on keystone for big jumps that would be open the whole time they wanted to "train".
Dec 11 2013 9:59PM
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ericman
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152422454084348&set=vb.508444347&type=2&theater

The BC kids should of came to ontario to train doubles
Dec 11 2013 10:47PM
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-MK-
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Yeah it's not like people spent a lot of money to come to keystone and train in hopes to get a better rep and lots of money... That would be crazy
Dec 11 2013 11:04PM
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nine50seven
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For an event that big I would want to be as ready as I could be and I understand why they are mad because although on a much smaller scale it is exactly something my home mtn would do.
Dec 11 2013 11:47PM
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yeahno
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stop bitching
Dec 11 2013 11:48PM
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