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Why so many names? tail..blunt.. and other stuff..

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Nikkekoivisto
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Tail, Blunt, Lead Tail, True tail, Reverse tail? Ik, im retarded for not knowing this but correct me please

-Tail/blunt = same thing? skis crossed and grabbing tip? no? ok:(
-Lead tail = for example if you spin left you grab tail of your ski with your left arm while skis crossed?
-True tail = uncrossed tailgrab?
-Reverse = ?? <- and does this even exist?

and bonus question:
Difference between flatspin and rodeo is that rodeo goes more inverted, while flatspin spins little more flat? then why is the very inverted flatspin 3 called flatspin and not rodeo 3 if 5 is more inverted?logic.
some people call very flat flat 5 a rodoe and vice versa. even pros, Twall said he did biggest rodeo 5 in sun valley and it was very flat "rodeo" so why didnt he call it flatspin then? >.<' it should just be called rodeo 5 like in snowboarding no matter how flat u do, the trick idea is the same.
i usually call them just rodeo and i dont get in the details, but it annoys when i say either rodeo or flatspin, someone corrects me that its the other one..
and then claim/
i can do all these tricks but still dont get the names for them.. especially what is blunt and tail..


Dec 9 2013 4:35PM
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RubberSoul
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tail is a tail grab, can refer to grabbing any part of the tail of the ski, usually the inside edge.

blunt is the same as true tail, meaning the actual tip of the..tail

lead, opposite, and reverse all mean grabbing the leading ski.. like, if im spinning left, i grabbed the left ski

people love to split hairs about rodeo vs flatspin but as you mentioned it's just a stupid thing that skiers do for some reason. just call em rodeos instead of being a dork

no such thing as a rodeo 3 though really, so just call those flatspins

now cue a hundred retards arguing over stupid shit, but ignore them cause i'm right and they're wrong

Dec 9 2013 4:40PM
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Nikkekoivisto
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Haha, ok thanks mate. since everyone else is wrong and you're right, u mean blunt is crossed tail and grabbing the very tip of the ski?
and what do u call when ur skis arent crossed and u grab both tails with 1 hand. (like skis are really close together)
Dec 9 2013 4:54PM
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raull
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"tail is a tail grab, can refer to grabbing any part of the tail of the ski, usually the inside edge."

grabbing the inside edge is called a toxic grab.

you're wrong and im right.
Dec 9 2013 5:06PM
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RubberSoul
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blunt doesnt necessarily mean crossed or uncrossed. blunt just means true tail, grabbing the very tip of the tail

you can then do it crossed or uncrossed but "blunt" doesnt denote one or the other

and i've never heard of a name for grabbing both blunts with one hand, there's not a name for that
Dec 9 2013 5:11PM
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BROLF
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nobody needs these extra names, it's a tail grab.
Dec 9 2013 5:12PM
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Randy_Quench
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this so fucking much
Dec 9 2013 5:17PM
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RubberSoul
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yeah funny you'd say that cause i was going to add in that back in the day it was popular to argue about tail versus toxic, because people who want to split hairs say that you should call the inside edge grab a toxic

no one ever uses that any more though, it's just a tail grab, havent heard someone say toxic since like 2001
Dec 9 2013 5:18PM
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raull
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i just call grabbing anything behind of the rear binding a tail grab (except for japans, duh), but the purpose of the thread is to name the "exact" definitions and locations of each grab so thought id through it out there. jah bless.
Dec 9 2013 5:23PM
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RubberSoul
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i would LOVE to hear from whoever downvoted this because it's 100% true...
Dec 9 2013 5:24PM
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RubberSoul
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no yeah definitely agree, that is what you'd call if if you wanted to split hairs but that's one hair splitter that has luckily been left behind
Dec 9 2013 5:27PM
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Plankton
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i thought that was stalefish but im probably wrong
Dec 9 2013 5:31PM
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RubberSoul
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what you might be thinking of is when people grab blunt but on the farther away ski... like, put your right hand back and grab blunt on the left ski, people have started calling those cubans recently i think

and stalefish is when you grab OUTside tail edge of LEFT ski behind you with RIGHT hand. so sort of like a cuban but the far outside edge of the left ski's tail
Dec 9 2013 5:35PM
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first_rodeo
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flatspin you are laying on your back facing the sky without inversion
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rodeo you are inverted with your torque inwards
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Dec 9 2013 5:39PM
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raull
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haha yeah glad its gone too. although its fun to do them jokingly,
Dec 9 2013 5:53PM
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Cotter
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Nobody actually calls d-spins "d-spins" anymore, they just call it a cork. Cork= Knees/feet do not go over your head
Dec 9 2013 6:15PM
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SDrvpr
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I have always referred to tail grabs as skis crossed and blunts as skis uncrossed. It seems now a days, every single tail grab is called a blunt which sounds way too try hard of a name.
Dec 9 2013 6:21PM
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Lemuel
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You were doing so well up until calling a "rodeo 3" a flatspin. It's a wackflip.
Dec 9 2013 6:28PM
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Lemuel
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And as far as blunt, to me a true blunt has always been uncrossed. Think of what blunt means: not sharp or jagged. What looks less "jagged," crossed skis or skis together? PWhite has the best blunt in the game.

I know I will be ridiculed for that, but whatever.
Dec 9 2013 6:32PM
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RubberSoul
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well yeah, some would be... but i always avoid splitting hairs, and a wackflip is just what people call the trick that's between an off axis backie and a true flat, and i don't see any reason to propagate more hair splitting
Dec 9 2013 6:55PM
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Plankton
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yay that means i can do a rodeo
/claim
Dec 9 2013 7:11PM
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Mr.LemonPie
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nononono.
A toxic is when you grab the ski across your back, IE right hand left tail.
Dec 9 2013 7:22PM
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Agamemnon
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Nononononono.

This is toxic.
Dec 9 2013 7:38PM
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Turd.Ferguson
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all i need are my screamin seamen. it works 60% of the time all the time with the ladies
Dec 9 2013 8:24PM
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BROLF
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If I hear wackflip one more time.... there is no such thing as a wackflip
Dec 9 2013 10:57PM
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TOAST.
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Arnt dspins pretty much spinning through a backflip. In which case it would be completely different than a cork.
Dec 9 2013 11:07PM
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Hammyslapwagon
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meh I gave up getting the names correct a long time ago and just call everything a mute now
Dec 9 2013 11:49PM
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-WZ-
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so whats a cuban
Dec 10 2013 12:21AM
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Smuffy
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I like blunt more than tail

and it is important to distinguish between blunt, toxic and tindy
Dec 10 2013 1:30AM
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RubberSoul
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i said that up there.. cuban is grabbing blunt but on the opposite ski. so you reach behind you and grab the very back of the tail of the LEFT ski with your RIGHT hand, or vice versa
Dec 10 2013 11:55AM
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John18_6
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If you want to see a reverse tail, just watch clayton vila's first 9 in the jibberish welcomes clayton vila and Sean Jordan edit. It is honestly one of the sickest things I've seen in an edit.
Dec 10 2013 12:04PM
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elinde
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You're right about that, just saying blunts usually refer to trailing tail. You wouldn't call a lead tail a blunt, just from my knowledge.
Dec 10 2013 12:09PM
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