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So when you're seriously considering a career thats on the Top 10: worst majors list....

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Spic-N-SpaN
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Do you still pursue it? or do you take the easy well paying health care job that will allow you to live comfortably for the rest of your life.
Dec 6 2013 10:35PM
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Spic-N-SpaN
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http://money.msn.com/personal-finance/10-worst-majors-for-your-career/
Dec 6 2013 10:35PM
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theabortionator
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Do whatever you want
Dec 6 2013 10:39PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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>being surprised by any of that.

get a degree in something else you like and study other stuff on the side, pick up a minor.

at least i was entertained by this photo.
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Dec 6 2013 10:54PM
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oil.
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And don't be pissed when all your STEM and finance major friends are driving to their second house in vail, while you're just complaining about how you can't find a job with that music major of yours. Work hard now and life will be a lot easier
Dec 6 2013 11:12PM
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coling
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Healthcare jobs seem pretty dope
Dec 6 2013 11:12PM
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Spic-N-SpaN
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Thing is, I feel like if you want to actually make a career out of the thing you enjoy, you should but your all into it. Someone does all that stuff and makes a living out of it, if you commit yourself 100% to it, couldn't it be you?







Thats my optimistic mom in me that lives in fantasy land were thing just sort of work out (which I think they will, if you actually go at it with everything, you might spend the majority of your time in poverty but eventually you'll carve out a spot for yourself.



The no nonsense dad in my says cut out the bullshit and get a job and be miserable like everyone else. Let the most exciting thing you're really ever do be going to the hardware store and bullshiting with the guy at the counter and then go home to the fancy car you wax every sunday and the wife that stopped fucking you 5 years ago.
Dec 6 2013 11:21PM
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Bart.Man
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I lost any and all respect for the credibility of this list when I hit graphic design. I'm not a design major, but to say there's not a demand for graphic design is utterly retarded. There is a virtually unlimited amount of opportunity in the design field, from designing logos for companies to perfecting ads and beyond.

Also, if you study something you enjoy, odds are you'll be more motivated to excel in it and find a way to get payed for doing it. There seems to be a massive amount of disillusion in the media and our culture about how the primary concern is to graduate and make money to spend money to have a happy life. I know it sounds idealist and hippy whatever, but that's how I view American culture at the moment.
Dec 6 2013 11:23PM
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Spic-N-SpaN
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Should be Put your all into it. Put. with a P.
Dec 6 2013 11:24PM
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iH8pow
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just kill youself, play russian roulette. you'd be just as well off
Dec 6 2013 11:25PM
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coling
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Do something with math or science involved. Maybe engineering. Good job security there
Dec 6 2013 11:36PM
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whoa-dere
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i'll be making bank with my mechanical engineering major and business minor
Dec 6 2013 11:37PM
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Drail
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Do what makes you happen, the end result is irrelevant. What good is job security if you spend 40 years of your life not enjoying what you do for a living? Life can be lived from day 1, not just after retirement (if that even exists in 40 years).
Dec 6 2013 11:44PM
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Dwarftosser1
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Well that list wasn't very surprising...


But its also not like the STEM bubble is really that secure either. It's basically a crapshoot any way, just do the things that make you stand out from the crowd.
Dec 6 2013 11:50PM
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LoathesRaisins
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You may have to work the shit jobs with shitty pay, but in the end it doesn't even matter. You'll be doing something enjoyable if you work hard enough.

Dec 7 2013 12:02AM
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PeppermillReno
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In this day in age I wouldn't recommend going to college without specifically knowing what job you want to get afterwards.  So chose the job you want first and then go for it.  Its just the world we live in there's 20 people after every 1 decent job.


But if you are unsure what you want to do age 18/19 I don't mean to piss in your cheerios but it might be too late if you don't decide until age 20-21 and your degree will likely be useless.  For example if you decide you want to be a teacher in the middle of your junior year of college its way too late.  You have no chance of getting the practice hours and coursework and stuff done in time and you will even go into teaching masters programs severly behind the 8 ball.

Im fortunate that fucking up forced me to take an entrepreneurial approach to life but its a shame I wasn;t entrepreneurial as a college undergrad.  I could have had a sick business degree and made good connections.  But that drive came after realizing I couldn't get a white collar office job, a teaching job, or a decent social work job where you aren't wiping peoples ass and just do time sheets and shit.
Dec 7 2013 12:48AM
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hundreds
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I had a tough time deciding if I was taking the right classes, I had an accounting class and a business management class and dropped both of them when I realized dildos had been a passion of mine since grade six. Started taking dildo classes and haven't looked back since
Dec 7 2013 1:08AM
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bigbromskier
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I've wondered what the actual stats are of people living at home with their parents are. there's all this talk about it, but I don't think I know a single person who is doing it. maybe because if you're actually part of that statistic you're pathetic and useless like people who did that before it and all of a sudden became a big deal.

maybe if you live in a big city with high rent and don't work the right jobs, but come on. is it a pride thing that these kids don't want to work more menial jobs and would rather live off their parents? or is the whole thing hyperbolized by the media to present the country's current unemployment predicament even more depressingly, while all those numbers really represent is a statistically-based economic picture of the situation that isn't really even all that literal?

all of those rankings are based off of marginalized statistics. I bet if those majors were described circumstantially or anecdotally case by case you might find that those who hold those majors wouldn't necessarily consider them to be the top ten worst majors. if you're interested in something, pursue it. it's not all about salaries and # of years between graduation and employment.
Dec 7 2013 11:20AM
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KravtZ
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Major in something useful, minor or second major in something you enjoy.

Why would you go to college and waste how ever much money to study something you like. College ultimately is all about marketing yourself to employers when you graduate. Why would you pick something that you CLEARLY know will get you a terrible pay if a job at all. When you graduate you will heavily regret not having something that will pay decent. Try living in NYC on 30K a year.
Dec 7 2013 12:35PM
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yuck
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is this what you really think your life would be like if you had a well paying job that wasnt your number 1 passion in life..? thats a seriously shitty and depressing outlook.

personally I want my career to be something I am interested in but not necessarily my favorite thing in the world. If you could make an easy living off of the thing you love to do most, yeah that sounds peachy. However, if you have any work-related stress, like 99% of people do, that work stress is now tied to the one thing that used to be the perfect release. i want my job to enable me to do the things I truly love, not complicate them or add extra pressure to whatever it is I enjoy most. the idea of doing what you love, and loving it ALL the time just doesnt seem probable to me.
Dec 7 2013 12:46PM
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stoggieman
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I couldn't agree more, it seems like as soon as the thing you supposedly "loved" so much becomes your primary means of income then suddenly it's a job and not a fun activity anymore.

I have a couple friends who went into golf course management because they loved golf, most only made it a year or two and decided that all of a sudden golf wasn't fun anymore once it because their livelihood.
Dec 7 2013 1:03PM
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howlongcanausern
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wow, this.
Dec 7 2013 1:04PM
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.Rybak.
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I really enjoyed that video.
Dec 7 2013 1:17PM
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will_powder
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History major here. I'm not too worried about job prospects, but I have every intention of grad school (MBA, law, library sciences). Basically anyone with a BA or a BSc needs grad school now (obviously exceptions).

If I have good extra curricular stuff on top of great marks I can't see myself having that many problems.
Dec 7 2013 1:21PM
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Stose
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No that list is right. It doesn't say there's not a demand it simply states that there isn't as much of a demand as there is for other jobs which is a fact based on the unemployment statistics.
Dec 7 2013 1:30PM
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t-roy
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...if you are seriously considering one of those careers, and you are passionate about it, you can probably make it work eventually, but you might work some bad jobs after college. try to take other classes, or minor in a more marketable degree which might keep more doors open.

i'm glad that I chose a science/medical career that has been very rewarding in many ways
Dec 7 2013 1:31PM
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Bogs
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"Why would you go to college and waste how ever much money to study something you like."

Because some people want to enjoy what they do for a living?

"Why would you pick something that you CLEARLY know will get you a terrible pay if a job at all."

Because you're passionate about it? To reuse an example, if you know you want to be a teacher despite it not paying great, why wouldn't you go to college to study education/whatever subject you think you may want to teach?
Dec 7 2013 2:45PM
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Wallisch_pl
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a friend that used to work at my mountain now at his first job out of college is making 60k+, pretty nice
Dec 7 2013 2:47PM
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MNS
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I can understand the ARTS on the list for the most part. But I think english is more about how you apply it. Graphic design might be alright as well.

As for photography and film, all my friends who're pursuing that asa career did not take it in school.

But yea as for those fine arts, mmm well, i suppose I would like a large fries with that.
Dec 7 2013 3:12PM
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Negro_Jesus
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If you love your job, you'll never have to work a day in your life. Maybe you won't have as much money but you'll get to do what you love for the rest of your life.
Dec 7 2013 3:18PM
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Olimar
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Until you hear me tell you that all mechanical engineering jobs are going over seas. Enjoy the rest of high school.
Dec 7 2013 3:44PM
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GayWolf420
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Mostly art majors which is not a surprise.
Dec 7 2013 3:51PM
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Phil-X-
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>That feel when youre in engineering

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Dec 7 2013 4:00PM
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.Duncan.
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This is straight bullshit and is not at all applicable to the real world. People need to realize that life is about striking a balance between the stress of a job and relaxation outside of it. I know at least a dozen people that went into college and came out with some stupid degree after following advice like that and they now realize that almost no one gets paid enough to live on if they do something that isn't a little stressful and considered work. This is good advice if we lived in some perfect utopian society, but it appears to me that we don't.
Dec 7 2013 4:06PM
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eheath
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I hate lists like this. People automatically judge happiness and build their goals solely on money. Sure, there are some high paying jobs that are awesome that have very high salaries, for example I have a bunch of friends who studied engineering and they honestly love it and will really enjoy their jobs and make a ton of bank. I also have a lot of friends who studied some bullshit business/finance major and now they sit in a cubical and want to quit regardless of how much money they make.

I think when you go to college you should choose to study something you love, not something you think will make you the most money after you graduate. Money is such an awful thing to focus on because no matter what job you have you will get paid like shit for the first 5 years.

I hate when people are like "im gonna make so much more money than you when i graduate! your major sucks!"

I started off studying marketing and it wasnt for me so I switch to communications. My job I have now has nothing to do with my major and thats fine, I wasn't gonna just drop out of school because I didn't like business.

But I had that shitty mindset that I had to work a job that makes $X a year or else I wouldn't be happy. Now I make enough money to pay my bills and live the lifestyle I choose and its awesome. Will I be able to live in some ballin house with 10 tvs a pool and private sauna? No way. Am I gonna have a sick car? no but i dont give a shit. I enjoy my job and enjoy going to my job every day and I dont need some bullshit material items to make my life feel better.

When you go to school do something you love, don't worry about the money in the future, it will come.
Dec 7 2013 4:17PM
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whoa-dere
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i have no problem going overseas. also im in college already
Dec 7 2013 5:34PM
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whoa-dere
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but when I see lambo's and ferrari's on the street or a ski chalet or private planes on instagram all i'm thinking is what can I do to get that rich. someone has to fill that spot
Dec 7 2013 5:45PM
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theabortionator
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I agree for the most part. At least having some idea of what you want to go.Paying a ton of money to go to college just to go seems ridiculous.(Unless your parents are paying for it then go for it)

People just assume that having a college degree = a big paying job. I have a college degree in painting with my toes, I should have no problem getting a job and making 100K a year with that degree.


People have unrealistic expectations for what their college degree will get them. The people who say "You have to go to college" are idiots. I think it's a terrible idea to rack up that much debt just to go to college for the hell of it.

There really isn't much degree wise that would have helped me at what I'm doing, doesn't matter in terms of getting a job, so all the people who argued that I had to go to college can go herp derp somewhere else. If I had gone to school I probably would have rocked out some history and business. Would have been cool but parents weren't paying for it so fuck it.

At the same time I'll never be making anything close to what a lot of people are making. That's not my goal though so it doesn't bother me.

/rant about nothing
Dec 7 2013 5:53PM
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itzbrett
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Sorry to break it to you, but being a mechanical engineer with a minor in business will not make you rich. First off minors don't mean shit when you're trying to find a job, and secondly engineers don't just get rich. Sure they start with high wages, and make a lot compared to most other professions, but to get rich you need to be an entrepreneur. Advancement through a company could lead to a pretty high salary, but this usually take a lot of time and hard work. The whole make bank solely based on a degree mentality is absurd.
Dec 7 2013 6:12PM
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yuck
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lolwut
Dec 7 2013 6:14PM
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itzbrett
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You need to make a startup, or work for a small company that is still private. If this company makes it big and goes public you will be rich. When microsoft went public, the janitors retired.
Dec 7 2013 6:18PM
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Dustin.
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You don't pay to go to college to learn about stuff you like. That can be done on the internet, at Barnes and Noble, or in your local community for much less.

You pay to go to college to get a certification that you have some expertise or capability to learn/work hard. That's it. If you get a degree that literally anyone could buy while drunk on PBR, your dreams of easy employment will be rewarded as such. How valuable is the most recent college grad with a degree in something teenagers are mastering in their spare time? They aren't? I'm now surprised that I cannot find someone willing to pay me $45,000 a year to do it? Just look around this website and I bet I can find better photographers, graphic designers, artist, and video editors than just graduated from your nearest state university. And they are 16-22ish and willing to accept the same or less than a college grad.

Get a degree in something valuable which will enable you to specifically pursue what you want to do, keep doors open so you can get a Masters in something you want to do, or will keep you off the streets until you can find your way into your dream job.
Dec 7 2013 6:19PM
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Wallisch_pl
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comp sci :D
Dec 7 2013 6:37PM
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Phil-X-
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Right??

Just because I like just because I like the outdoors doesnt mean my best choice in life would be to settle with a outdoors job.

As an Agri-Bio Engineer I'l make a great amount of money and be able to enjoy the outdoors the way I choose too at my leisure in a nicer way
Dec 7 2013 7:36PM
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PJS.
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Fuck people who pursue careers solely because they want to make money.
Dec 7 2013 7:45PM
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JAHBRADOR
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Dont go to college.
Dec 7 2013 7:47PM
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NotoriousT.S.E
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I like economics. I'm majoring in economics. yay learning
Dec 7 2013 8:07PM
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Spinoza
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'philosophy and religious studies' yeah theyre basically the same thing......
Dec 7 2013 8:22PM
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Drail
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that's a pretty shitty outlook on life. The real world is full of choices and opportunities. If you have drive, dedication, and are focused, it is amazing what you can make work in your favour.

Now, obviously not everyone who attempts it will become rich from photography or finger painting, but how would you know if you didn't even try?

Do you honestly think that people aren't working jobs they love? Have fun waiting till retirement while everyone else is enjoying the shit out of life right away.
Dec 7 2013 9:29PM
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Aidan-G
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I don't see dolphin jerk off technician on the list so it looks like I'm golden
Dec 7 2013 9:32PM
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