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Full Tilt Toe bang

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WU-sconsin
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I asked this on the injury section and didn't really get any responses and I didn't find much in the searchbar so.. Has anyone had some bad enough toebang that the area swells and is all purple? If so, how long did it take for th nail to either fall off or become skiiable again? I noticed that the nail is elevated a lot and I was wondering if this causes a problem while skiing. How long will this damn thing take?
Dec 4 2013 8:40PM
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Crispy.
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get full tilts
Dec 4 2013 8:41PM
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WU-sconsin
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As you can see in the title, I already have full tilts
Dec 4 2013 8:42PM
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Mr.Sloth
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this
Dec 4 2013 8:42PM
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suup
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Are they the tom wallich pro models
Dec 4 2013 8:50PM
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FlufyDuky
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I search barred black toenail and got a whole thread about it


But i got it in July, I'd recommend draining it (rank as fuck). I didn't though, the main pain stopped after a week as the pressure dies down, the nail fell off in August ish, and has almost regrown now. Just tighten your boots up so the top of your toe doesn't whack the top of your boot and you'll be sweet.
Dec 4 2013 8:50PM
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Heat fit/mold them. 4-5 pound of rice in a ski sock. Microwave 6 mins drop in boot. Cut toes and 2-3 inches of old socks off and put on foot. Pull ski sock on foot with sock tips. Put foot in boot and chill out for like 20 mins. Then wear boots with normal sock on fir 20 mins. Works every time.
Dec 4 2013 8:52PM
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WU-sconsin
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cool sounds good thanks how long would you say it took until it would probably be skiiable?

Dec 4 2013 8:53PM
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bigbromskier
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crank down the ankle strap and toe buckles so that your heel doesn't slide forward.

I have similar dalbellos and I do the velcro strap under the tongue/directly on the liner, then buckle the shin buckle over it. helps get a more solid fit so I'd recommend trying that too. It's also good for preventing shin bang as well.
Dec 4 2013 8:56PM
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a_burger
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Basically, you just kind of have to wait for it too fall off unless you want to try and rip it off.

When you go skiing (or anything really) just tape it down with athletic tape, and try not to land backseat. Also make sure the buckles closest to your ankles are very tight. This will prevent it from getting worse.

Last year I busted both my toe nails and just skied with them for a few months. Then when I was in the shower one night it just fell off (note, stop taping them after they fall off, the new one will get deformed and shit)
Dec 4 2013 8:57PM
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FlufyDuky
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i skied on mine every day, but that was cause I only had a week's skiing and maybe it wasnt as bad as yours. I'd say only 3 days after you first saw darkness..
Dec 4 2013 8:59PM
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JAHBRADOR
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Get 1 pair SPK and your FT's

Cut off the toe of the SPK

Do same to FT's

Glue SPK toe onto FT.

Should be good to go.

Dec 4 2013 9:05PM
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Blake.P
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i've busted off toe nails every year for the past 3 years, and i never stop skiing when it happens. the only really painful thing is the pressure, so if you just drain it you are good to go. to drain it, take a needle (clothes pins work well), i clean it with some rubbing alcohol, then hold it in a lighter flame so its really fuckin hot. then slowly push it through the top of the toenail (or go in through the front. slightly more painful but for some reason its mentally easier for me). once you go through, there will be a little squirt of blood and then it feels great.


have fun...
Dec 4 2013 9:06PM
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WU-sconsin
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mines definitely worse. it's day4 and I still can't walk without limping
Dec 4 2013 9:07PM
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fredyferl
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I had FT and I had toe bangs but it was because they were a size too big. I now have boots the right size, it feels tighter at the beginning but I don't have toe bangs anymore. Shin bangs though...
Dec 4 2013 9:08PM
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last_tango
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go with what blake said. Sounds really gross but its the only wait.
Dec 4 2013 9:11PM
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WU-sconsin
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This sounds gross and I've had it drained last year. Does this have any risk? because I'm going on a ski trip out west around new Year's and I don't really want to make anything worse.
Dec 4 2013 9:15PM
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WU-sconsin
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Ok well, for anyone who can still help me, I just drained all the fluid under the toe nail, it was a shit load of fluid. But now I'm having another issue. I pushed down on the nail to drain the fluid and I think I might have like pushed it down too far. The beginning of the nail, where it meets the skin is way farther down that the rest of the nail. The nail is below the cuticle and there is a lot of resistance when I bend my toe, anyone know if this will just go away or what?
Dec 4 2013 9:25PM
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Dr.Dealgood
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They're called doctors... check 'em out!
Dec 4 2013 9:32PM
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PsychedelicMoose
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I got a toe bang a year ago skiing. It was purple for a couple of weeks. The nail didn't get completely fixed for about a year.
Dec 4 2013 9:36PM
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WU-sconsin
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yeah I'm not about the doctor thing right now, that shit costs money
Dec 4 2013 9:36PM
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steezburgereddie
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boot fitter
Dec 4 2013 9:40PM
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whistles
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Go to a boot fittter and have them blow out the toe box. It will fix the problem
Dec 4 2013 9:43PM
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SnowMiser
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Two years ago I banged my toe hard in late December. Nail didn't fall off naturally until March (I know). The pain was nbd and I'm sure I could have pulled it off earlier if I so desired. I recommend keeping it on as long as possible so the tender patch beneath isn't exposed; by the time mine fell off, the follow up nail was almost fully grown.
Dec 4 2013 9:43PM
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WU-sconsin
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yeah I'm taking my boots in this weekend.


And it turns out after draining it, I can walk without pain, so I'm happy as fuck. I really don't care that it looks nasty, as long as I can ski so thanks for the draining tip earlier
Dec 4 2013 9:43PM
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Substitute
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Sounds like a great way to break your boots
Dec 4 2013 9:55PM
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perryhunter
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I think it will take a year for a complete healing.
Dec 4 2013 10:24PM
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brov1
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tighten the middle buckle alot.for me this keeps my heel jammed in the back of the boot and stops toe bang

Dec 4 2013 10:47PM
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SorryimJake
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If your toe nails start to look like a blueish color/black-welcome to hell.
In one season both my big toe nails fell off twice (TWICE) do you how horrible that was?
The best advice ever on toe banged toenails:
when they start to hurt, and turn black, and u cant press down on them, take a pin needle, and slowly easily twist a small hole into the center of your toenail. Press down now, puss should come out and relief the pain.
Dec 4 2013 11:22PM
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ilikefood
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Don't wear full tilts and find a boot that actually fits you
Dec 4 2013 11:56PM
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brokenankles
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I just personally tried this......A+
Dec 5 2013 12:00AM
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powkat
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This ^^

I used to get toe bang all the time, finally I took my boots into a good boot fitter and he did a toe punch where my big toe is in both shells (I have Full Tilt Hot Doggers). I haven't gotten it since. It made a world of difference and only cost me $15, best investment ever. If your boots feel too tight you should look into it (you can also get toe bang if they are too big).


Dec 5 2013 1:26AM
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sivercartel4ever
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Instead of using the crappy stock velcro straps get a booster strap. Things work miracles for getting the top of your boot good and tight.
Dec 5 2013 1:28AM
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TACO-DOG.exe
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just don't do up your boots when you ski
Dec 5 2013 1:31AM
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Substitute
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Yep
Dec 5 2013 9:23AM
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40oz.
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Since others believe this to work, I may try. Do you have to moisten the rice? Or just straight dry and do you use instant or it prolly doesn't matter?
Dec 5 2013 9:28AM
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BROLF
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use dry, not instant. Microwave for 6 minutes. once the rice is done put the sock in the boot and pound the heel and toe of the boot on the ground to make the rice get all the way in. Then stand with most of your weight on the foot thats in the boot for 10 minutes.
Dec 5 2013 9:44AM
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Substitute
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No you will cook it. Then youll spend oura getting wet hot rice out of your sock.

This is what intuition (the liner company) recomends.

Just use plain white rice. Not instant this too will cook it.
Dec 5 2013 10:58AM
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Pipe_Munky
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your boots are too big!!!

as you land even a little back seat, the cuff acts as a pivot point for your lower leg and jams your toes into the front of your boots. the more space you have in front of your toes, the more room there is for the foot to gain momentum and thus making it extremely painful leading to black toes. add to that the fact that your foot expands with the force from a landing, if it's not supported it's going to hurt like a bitch.

a properly fitted boot should have almost no gap between your toe and the front of the boot. when you add a supportive footbed, the impact from a landing will cause very little expansion in your foot and limit the impact to your toes.

bottom line, trust your bootfitter. when they try to sell you a supportive footbed, they're not just trying to up their sales. asking questions about their fit guarantee is a must.
Dec 5 2013 11:07AM
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ABalls
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I'm going to get flack for this but IMO full tilts aren't what they're cracked up to be. Last season I had classics with a four flex tongue. I got shin bang and toe bang every time I rode. They were heat molded but it didn't make a difference. This season I bought spk pros with a rubber toe piece in the front to prevent toe bang and I receive very little to no shin bang at all when I ride park hard. I think it's just the shape of some peoples feet that don't work with ft boots. You could go throughout the season with those or try and trade them in. You could probably get spk's cheap or free due to the price differential. Good luck op
Dec 5 2013 11:10AM
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Different foot shape/size prob. I got my FTs for 75 bucks on ebay. Last year i was on 1986 lange racing boots. You cant talk about shin bang till hou try those.
Dec 5 2013 2:38PM
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Bumblesteeze
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Just chop your toes off.

No toes = No toe bang
Dec 5 2013 7:32PM
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MontanaMuggin
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Have your friend cut off your toes with siscors and no more toe bang!!
Dec 5 2013 7:32PM
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sivercartel4ever
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All these points lead back to going to a boot fitter and buying a boot that actually fits your foot. There is no one boot fits all.
Dec 9 2013 1:08PM
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zerospinskier
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This is a good possibility. Also, your foot is probably not be a good fit for the Full Tilt design. If I wear the classic Full Tilts or Dalbellos I get terrible toe bang and my toe nails fall off, but I can wear SPKs all season and never have an ounce of toe problems.
Dec 9 2013 1:41PM
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SnowMiser
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This happened again yesterday. I'm not shitting you.

I had my mom sterilize a needle and hammer it into my toenail, letting the blood spurt out the top and it instantly relieved a LOT of discomfort, etc. Might keep my nail! toes crossed lol
Dec 9 2013 9:47PM
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CB_Radio
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Dont land BAck seat. its the only way, saves your knees too
Dec 10 2013 10:33PM
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