270 advice

Start with a wide stance coming up to the rail and on aproach wind up with your upper body. On take off push off with the big toe of the foot opposite of the direction you are spinning (if you spin left push off with your right big toe.) The most important part of the 270 is looking with your head and committing to the spin. What I do is i look down a little while i am spinning and that way I can spot the rail throughout the entire 270. When you land on the rail make sure you have a very wide low stance. Like a gorrilla. And lean almost a little forward just to make sure you dont slip back. Hope you stomp it and sorry this was rather long-winded.

It might be easier if you take a deep breath, lift from the knees, and shove it up your butt.

You can also try spinning unnaty for your 270 on. When I very first learned to spin onto a rail, I found it easier to spin my unnatural direction and land in my natural. For whatever reason it just clicked better.

As the guy above me said though, definitely keep your stance wide. Sliding out on a rail is almost always due to a narrow stance which you might be doing because you're uncomfortable sliding unnaty.

You can also work on your unnatural sliding direction a bunch. That could really help. Take the whole start of the season and slide everything your unnatural way, you'll be an ace in no time.

it is my preference to keep a wide stance and upon landing, almost immediately scissor my back foot for stabilization with putting most of my weight on my front foot

Agree! Plus do it with a deep breath first so your muscles could relax.

Would you guys say 270 ons or offs are easier? I attempted and landed a few 270 offs last year but never tried an on. I really need to get both of those on lock this season.

Step 1 - try learning how to slide unnatty to begin with...this will make EVERYTHING on rails 100x easier.

Step 2 - On your approach, prewind by dropping your trailing hand (right hand for left spin, or vice versa) back behind you (I keep my arm low, behind my hips), but still keep your shoulders and hips square (this is important, if you rotate your entire body in your prewind it'll send you off balance the whole time. Then pop directly up (or slightly towards the rail if it's an urban approach...but most people don't learn 2s on an urban down rail) while bringing that trailing arm across your chest. When you pop and initiate your spin, look between your feet to spot the rail, this will do two things - keep you from over-rotating/drifting past the rail/box and keep your feet apart. When you land, keep your weight centered and your shoulders square, then look towards the end of the rail. Slide rail (if you've learned unnatty slides this is easy, if not it'll just take some work), look towards the end of the rail and decide how you're going to come off the rail (switch, forward, 270, ect).

Step 3 - ????? (keep working at it....it's a hard trick to learn, but a relatively easy one to actually do)

Step 4: Profit

do lots of backside switchups, that will help you rotate that direction and land unnatural foot forward without leaning back. i had the same problem when learning them onto down rails (flat rails came easy but i had a mental block with the downs) and what really helped me is to think about spinning with my skis roughly parallel to the rail. like, if you were to land in a switch 5050 you shouldn't land heavy on your noses you should be centered on your feet, now continue that rotation an extra 90 degrees and land with wide feet and you're good to go.

Offs are way easier and way less consequence.

Anything-offs are much easier than ons. I'd even say a 450 out is easier than a 270 on.

Trying that.

Do it on every super low, easy box you can find, and try them both ways. Try not to look down, as that can put you off axis. Commit to the spin, and just trust that you will get all the way around. When you come around, try and spot the end of the rail over your shoulder. it will help you lock onto it better.

Is it easier to have one ski on each side of the rail/box and go straight on or hit it from an urban angle? Last year I hit almost all rails from the side whether I needed to or not so that just feels more natural for me now.

pick a small rail. wide stance. pop hard at the knees and lean a bit forward if you are sliding out on your ass/hip

Don't really want to make another thread. I always get the 2 on good but I can't ever seem to get my toe to grip the rail. Do I just need to really exaggerate the toe grip. What are some tips to sissoring the rail. Also sometimes I fall off the opposite side I come in to(come on from left spin right fall off right) do I just need to get more left

Start on pipe rails because they are easier to grip. Sizzor grip the rail, it should come naturally after a couple of hits. Once you have the grip spin the way you feel the best with by pushing off the rail.