The Official "I'm High on Hard Drugs" Thread

Does mayonnaise constitute as a "hard drug"

lemon/lime juice>cola

also if you're a real crack whore the microwave method DOES (semi) work....but it's way more work than it's worth.

they both take way too damn long to prep. who wants to wait 12 hours to use the drugs they bought...i wanna get high.......NOW!!

i am not a fan of the ops, i love to sniff sniff the berries maybe smoke one too butthey ahve been sparse lately and for 20$ a 40 mg op is nice haha when a 30 mg blue is 30-35$ if i can find em...  calling my doc monday to tell him the 90 10 mg hydros hes giving me suck and i need stronger shit hopefully get moved up to 15 mg ocs!

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so what makes you an opiate connoisseur more than someone else? get off your high horse.
fentanyl fucks you up, but doesn't really give much euphoria. i've only felt heavy sedation from it and none of the energy or euphoria like from oxy. plus, fent really fucks up tolerance so it sucks when you want to switch to something else.
and dillys are good, but it takes too much eating em to make it worth it. oral BA just sucks ass, which is why most people shoot them. and no shit dope is better. thats why half the country's addicts do dope - besides the price aspect. opana is the real winner out of all of them, but don't see that around much. but 3 months clean now

I guess ill throw my "first-time-doing-acid" story into this thread. I was at a 4 day festival and I was volunteering to get my camping pass for free. The day before the first day of the festival was the staff meeting that all the staff have to go to, so that ends at about 2 am. I get home sleep for 30 min and go back to start volunteering. From 3 am to 11 pm I was standing directing traffic. The minute I get off i go to our campsite and see that our neighbors have some doses. My buddy told me he was down to do them with me so i go and buy 2 double droppers for myself and i take them right away. My buddy then backs out because he was afraid to talk to the guy or something dumb like that. After about 30-45 min i feel them start to kick in. Just as they start to kick in some belligerently drunk guy who said his name was "the duke" comes into our campsite. He tells us how he has no idea where he is and asked if we he can hang out for a bit. So hes just sitting there telling us these stories for about a hour and the doses have fully kicked in. It gets to the point when we were gonna go to a late night show so my buddies tell they guy they're leaving and go to the show, but I stayed back for a minute and the guy asked me if he could stay in our site until he figures out where he even is, me being peacefully shot tell him he can and I leave and catch up with my buddies. We start going to the show and they all ask where the guy had gone and i told them i said he could hang out in our site, so they all run back to make sure we weren't getting robbed or anything but the guy disappeared. I don't think he took anything but still a little sketchy none the less. So we make our way to the show and I begin to think the grass has all these snakes in it which bugged me out hard. Apparently I kept stopping my buddy making sure he didn't step on any "snakes" but i dont remember that. So we keep going and I look at this one dood were with and he looks like he turned Asian. His whole face had gotten smaller and his eyes slanted. We get to the show and go into the crowd, The light show is crazy, I tried to reach out and grab it but end up grabbing this chick in front if me and embarrassingly apologized. Thats when i started to think everyone around me was scoping me out thinking i was some douche for grabbing this chick and that trips me out for a while. We leave the show early and go back to our site. Everyone goes to sleep and im left by myself awake tripping absolute balls in the pouring rain. I get in my buddys car and ask if i can sit there for the night while he sleeps to get out of the rain. I ask him to keep my wallet and phone because i thought i was gonna get robbed by some random guy. He goes back to sleep but i keep bugging out and violently spinning around to make sure he was still there. I sit there for about 2 hours just thinking about all things life and tripping myself out hard. This is about when things took a turn for the worse. I start hearing voices in my head and outside the car. i hear people screaming outside the car and think i see people running through our campsite but in reality no one is there and its dead silent. I start freaking out not knowing if i should get out and say something to these "people." My mind starts looping these strange words and symbols and i keep getting an image of the dirty hippy from semi pro who makes the full court shot. My mind labels this guy "the borgman" and hes this evil master of deception. i keep looping this vision of this guy yelling things like "mBorg man!" or "Tedeschinson N'd'nag" at me and I freak the fuck out. I jump out of my buddy's car and start running. I cant stop looping these visions and hear this guys voice in my head. after running for a bit I stop and dry heave a couple times but don't boot. About here is where i abruptly black out. Next thing I remember, id say about an hour later based off how dark it was out, is me in these random peoples camp site and they're sitting around in lawn chairs and im standing in the center of them. I say sorry for whever i may have done and leave still trippin nutsack. The only way i found my way back to our site is because our neighbors had a huge flagpole with a flag that said Chache nation so i made my way to the chache nation flag. I get back in my buddy's car and dry heave some more. So i go to the porta johns to try and boot hoping itll make me feel any better. I go and i see one other guy about to go into one. Just as im stepping into a bathroom the guys says hey wait i know you. I stop and look at the guy and said something along the lines of "oh word whats up." They guys knows my full name knows where i live and where i go to school. I could feel my mind being blown as this guy recites all this info about me that i have no idea how he knows. Ive never seen this guy before in my life and didn't recognize his name when he told me it. I apologized that i didnt know him and he went into the bathroom. I ran away across the camping grounds all the way to the opposite side to use the other bathrooms, I had to get the fuck away from the guy. After i saw that guy i began to loop the borgman but now he was saying things like "St'nag man!", "n'st'desh", and "daa'ag!" at me. I run back to our site and get in my buddys car. I sit for a while trying to comprehend what had just happened but the voices in my head wouldnt let me. I kept twitching out and looking up at the purple sky just before sunrise and the moon which seemed at the time to have a face of some sorts. I go back to where i saw the guy and finally boot in the bathroom. Feeling much better i go sit in my camp site soaked and freezing cold with out any other clothes and just slowly come down as i wait for some one in my site to wake up. I sit for maybe 2 hours and if i recall right its somewhere about 5-6 am. One at a time they all wake up and im just sitting in this chair letting the doses wear off and feel my brain become mush staring into this container of kool aid powder. After they all got up i still had some after glow but for the most part i was done. Still to this day the most fucked up ive ever been. at the time i had been awake for 2 days with 30 min of sleep and i didnt sleep the following day either (total 3 days awake minus 30 min of sleep). In the course of the night I had created a language and this master of deception. I know it sounds cliche but it definitely changed my life. To this day i still have the images of the borgman and the langues burned into my mind. I havent done acid again since but i prob will again some day.

Purely out of curiosity, and I don't mean to sound preachy, but what do you guys think about becoming complete burnouts after repeated drug use? Has anyone done any research? I'm sure everything in moderation right? I have some friends and coworkers who were heavy drug users for quite a while and now that they've moved on from the lifestyle and are in their 30's, some are not all there and some others are better. They were all fine when we were young? Where do you draw the line to prevent that?? I apologize for any buzz kill

definitely not worth it; story blows.

Were you on anything else? Doesn't really sound like acid to me but who knows.

the wonders of buying drugs from strangers at festivals

I LOVE PILLS. Nothing makes my day better than a nice xanax to mellow out.

Skipped to the bottom and skimmed, you didn't do acid bud. Glad you let some stranger ruin the wonders of LSD for you by giving you some shit RC.

My Phil professor told us a story today about his days at Brandeis and the "holiday dedicated to tripping on acid."

According to him, more than 50 students took acid that day.
 
Here's what makes it awesome:
-The student council hired magicians and clowns to wander campus
-The gymnasium had four walls of projection screens with nonstop porno movies playing
-They collectively bought a half pound of weed, rolled it all into joints, and made it rain

Now I wonder, was Brandeis in the '60s heaven?

You're harshing my mellow bro


but to answer your question I don't really believe in time, persay, so who's to say i'll never burnout, but burn bright forever?

I hope you don't mean this literally

I don't really have anything to contribute to this thread, I'm just reading through. Just wanted to say I'm not really sure why you're getting shit on for this, I completely agree with the point you are making.

Being fearless around people when you're "fucked up" is a good thing, it means you have a really sincere, comfortable relationship (in my opinion, I suppose) with these people. Being in a different state of mind isn't necessarily disrespectful unless you're behaving disrespectfully. If you're being your honest self, I don't see an issue with it. Personally, I wouldn't spend time with most people if I was high or tripping or anything of that nature. But that's just because I recognize that I don't have very many positive and/or honest relationships. It's sad, but I'm able to recognize that and make the ultimate decision not to do drugs in these circumstances.

However, that isn't the reality for some people (such as yourself). If you're able to be intimate comfortably with someone in such circumstances, go ahead. It may even enhance your time spent with them. I think it has a lot to do with maturity. If you want to trip with a bunch of kids giggling at a flower because that's what you're comfortable with, by all means do so. But if you're at a point in your life where you're more comfortable interacting with people while you're tripping or whatever it is you're doing, by all means do so. Maybe it's not even maturity, maybe it depends on your personality. Maybe that's just my perception. Who really knows, I don't know. I'm going to stop myself before I go off on tangents about "reality doesn't exist" and "perspective is an illusion", etc. because really who cares.

Anyway, to each their own but that's just my .02

Can you elaborate? I'm not trying to argue I'm just curious and would like to better understand your point.

How do you know they're wrong?

Fair enough. I don't think that something is wrong just because it's inexplicable. It could be, but it also could not be. Maybe it's just your perception.

I respectfully disagree, there are plenty of things I've come to understand that I can't even begin to explain. I tend to struggle communicating any of my thoughts though, significant or insignificant. Even so, there aren't words for everything. Sometimes I attribute my lack of communication of conceptualized perceptions to impassivity, mainly because the more I think about it the more it makes sense that nothing makes sense and that nothing is really worth explaining at all because it's probably not even real, even if it's something that establishes my foundation, but at the same time does not because what if I don't even have a foundation and I'm just filling some endless void with these thoughts that have no significance whatsoever. They might just be things I'm fabricating to put a reason behind something that may or may not have a reason or may or may not even exist. Solipsism may be the reality, but how could i possibly know there is a reality? That completely invalidates that entire philosophy. To me, this is why some things are just not meant to be explained.

What the fuck this is a ski forum I'm not even on drugs

Anyway, when I trip I find that any concepts I've previously considered resurface in much greater detail and tend to be extremely magnified. It's all the same philosophy, it's just a thousand times more clear. But all of this just comes from prior experience, so everyone's trip is unique to them which, in my opinion, is why it's sometimes inexplicable.

I mean my point is that sometimes what you're understanding is that there is no understanding of the world and that if you really believe you have a rational understanding of the world, it's much more easily explained than the understanding of lack of understanding....if that makes sense. My words are jumbling I need to sleep.

I can't fully agree with you, I also can't fully disagree with you although I'm leaning more towards disagreement. I don't know, philosophy has fried my brain over the years and I try to steer clear because I always end up in the same place with it. I'm relatively neutral by default regardless. I'm going to go ahead and end this conversation because if I respond I'm just going to be reiterating my point and there's really no sense in that. I do respect your opinion though.

it's impossible to know anything. deal with it.

we know a lot of what we have observed and created schema for about the world. We are still finding new species of plants and animals, weve explore something like 5% of the ocean, and we still dont have a solid grasp on quantum physics-the very fabric that constitutes our existence.

But this world view that "all we know is that we know nothing" does not root from psychedelic drug use by adolescence, Rene Descartes philosophized-realized that our existence is all that we know for sure. "I think, therefore I am." nothing else. Prove that this isnt a dream. You cant. Neither can you prove it is. thats the point.

I dont think "The wild connections you make between random neurons when tripping may seem novel and brilliant at the time, but they may be meaningless or worthless in the pursuit of higher understanding." are ever meaningless or random. everything has an order, though the order of many things are amongst what we are still learning about the objective world, nothing is worthless, otherwise it wouldnt exist. For we are the creators of worth.

I agree a lot of people are full of shit, and im sure taking acid contributes exponentially to that for some people, but those people were most likely full of shit in the first place.
I havent taken hard drugs for a while  now, ive gained what my brain has decided i need, and it sounds selfish but i think now i would gain the most from tripping alone and meditating. people are fairly predictable.
FBGM your last few posts were on point with how i think, the higher order of the universe is one of those unexplainable things to me, its like while tripping when you grasp a full understanding of your environment but its so intricate and intertwined it would take a novel to explain a single moment because of everthing thats happened to get there and everything that is entailed by every component, see i just started a wild tangent of the unexplainable yet i feel i have an understanding of it

I'm completely on the same page with everything you just said

psychedelics should not be considered hard drugs

what would you define as a hard drug?

anything you IV

so someone could sniff coke or dope and it'd be ok, but if they shot coke or dope it'd be taboo?

No, there are taboos around any kind of drug, but relative to the effects, snorting or orally ingesting long term has much different effects on the body then injections or freebasing done for the same amount of time. Think of how many people do coke often and are perfectly fine compared to someone that has to shoot up 3-7 times a day to avoid withdrawal, its completely different.

HELL YEAH DAWG

lol

Such a tool, I bet if your fuckin life was a book, that'd you'd get off on reading it to anybody that didn't see right through your bullshit.

Will all the dope shooters please stand up and put one of those needles in each arm and shoot up. And be proud to be outta your mind and outta control And one more time, loud as you can, how does it go?
Cause I'm a dope shooter, yes I'm the real shooter. All you other shooters are just posers. So won't the real dope shooters please stand up, please stand up.

I would like to kindly disagree with you there. Looking at your other posts, along with this one, it appears that you might actually be retarded.

We get it man. You're a junkie and you suck dick for money.

Lol, she's looking out for you man, doesn't want to see her bottom bitch w/drawing

Wouldn't most stimulants constitute "hard"? I'm on the fence about hallucinogenics being classified as hard too though

I would consider any drug that can obviously incapicitate you in one dose as hard. LSD, shrooms, DMT, heroin, molly, ketamine.
you can still operate on coke, oxy, weed, amphetamines. hallucinogenics take you away from reality and morph it, rather than enhancing it or speeding it up.

psychadelics and hallucinogenics are definately hard in my opinion. they completely change reality and your perception, and make you inoperable for the most part. Acid lasts 8-12 hours which is an entire day for the most part. Being fucked up to the point you need a baby sitter (tripsitter) is certainly a definition for a hard drug.


And for balto, almost every crystalline drug can be iv'd. so like all drugs that aren't plants. thats a pretty vague rule.

i dont really know, for me its more about chemical addiction.

If a drug has addictive properties, too me its a hard drug. Even nicotine in comparison to say acid.

And you can get addicted to anything; TV, gambling, NS, so i guess any drug is addictive enough to be hard to the person using it, but i think the chances of getting to that point are a lot higher with the chemically addictive variety. Such as pills; from oxy, hydros, concerta, vyvance, then amphetamines, opiates, etc.

To me those are all "hard" and a lot less fun than the hallucinogens, which you can be VERY functional on. Today i took 5 tabs, tripped balls, and still hiked safely with a ton of other trippers. My friends who have gotten caught up in pills are a hell of a lot less functional. Some even to the point of death.

This thread is fucking retarded.

Lol @ the junkies in this thread arguing about who is a bigger junkie. You all suck.

Nice answer, I'd have to agree with all of that.

i still think it's pretty funny....but then again i'm 60mgs of OC deep so there really isn't much i don't find funny at the moment.

h is safe? haha, ptown (are you from portage? bunch a kids with nothing better to do there..) is displaying a classic case of psycological justification. one chooses to do shit that they clearly know is wrong or bad, yet they defend their choices to others who clearly and obviously see through their bullshit. shoot h, cool. dont act like and tell other people its safe. we'll make sure to quote you after an article about your od creeps into NSG

Lol ya man I'm on like sooooo many drugz this thread is hilarious I luv being 17