Tyrolia drill pattern

Liberty & Fischer.

Elan

Tyrolia manufactures bindings for the following companies, and they all share hole patterns in their respective models:

Tyrolia
Head
Fischer
Elan
4FRNT
Liberty

Look makes bindings for the following companies:

Look
Rossignol
Dynastar
Roxy (not sure if they still do)
Coreupt


Salomon makes bindings for Salomon and Atomic, not sure if they do any other brands though

As far as I know Marker is the only brand producing solely their own bindings, and its a good thing too, cuz they kinda suck IMHO.


I may have missed a few brands, and I didn't talk about VIST or anything else not in the US.

Thanks guys +k

marker is used on a lot of quality skis: volkl, k2, blizzard to name a few. Im not sure i follow you why they suck. Could you please elaborate (with actual examples) why the leader in binding manufacturing sucks?

Well Volkl owns Marker and K2 owns Volkl, not sure about blizzard though.

so what you are trying to say is you dont know. thats fine and fair. but without your own experience and seeing defects and broken bindings, its all hearsay for you. i regularly mount markers and have not seen anything out of the normal for bindings in general. Ill get the occasional broken brakes but thats from releasing when riding switch. that will happen to any binding and thankfully its two screws and its swapped out without issue unlike FKS's. My personal experience is that ive had more trouble with salomon and the least amount of issues from look/rossi. my marker griffons have worked really well so far.

I will humor you.

I have owned the following marker bindings:

M12
M14
M20
Jester
Jester demo
Duke
Jester Schizo

The first pair I ever owned were the M12s, they came with a pair of skis I bought from a shop. I broke them within the first month of the ski season, the toe piece exploded.

I took them to the shop and they put a pair of M14s on. After constant pre-release problems the heel piece exploded on those. When I took them back they just gave me a pair of PX14s (I love those).

I swore off the brand at this point, and got rid of the M20s that were on my GS skis.

When the new style of Marker bindings came out, I was skeptical, but bought a pair of skis that came with Jester Demo bindings, again from a shop. After about 40 days of skiing I snapped the toe piece completely off, and was sent into an extremely dangerous tomahawk through some small cliffs and rocks.

When I took them to the shop they said they could technically warranty the demos and they gave me the schizos. By the end of the season I had sheared the cable connection off of the toe piece. I sent them to marker directly as this was a known issue, and asked for a "downgrade" to the Jesters. That pair of Jesters lasted almost a whole season, and then I finally broke the toe piece off again.

The dukes I owned I hated, They ski very poorly compared to alpine bindings, and tour as badly as any other non tech binding, and yes, I eventually broke them as well, The two bars connecting heel to toe snapped mid tour, and I had to ski down on one ski with the other on my pack... not easy in the BC.




The reason that Marker bindings are terrible is mostly due to their design. The newer bindings have a very small shear area under the toe spring housing, With repeated stress and temperature fluctuations, its bound to fail eventually.

P.S. their warranty service is great, which is good since their bindings are so fragile. Also, I really liked how the Jesters skied, but I feel the same about the Rossignol bindings, and they have far fewer durability problems.

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very nice insight into your experience with the marker bindings. I too will say that i love my pivot10, pivot12, and even the axial2 rossi/look bindings. I have griffons on my sickles and they have worked out pretty well for me so far. It seems you do ski hard and unfortunately marker isnt up to par. thanks for you post and taking the time to explain what happened to multiple bindings from marker. I truly hated their old m# line of bindings but they were pretty trouble free for me personally. I have tested quite a few that wouldnt return to center or the forward pressure would dial in correctly. All in all, salomon for me is the brand ive had bad luck with. guess it differs for everyone.

This thread is off topic now but whatever. I have had mixed experiences with Marker. My original griffons are still holding strong and ski like they are just out of the box. My jesters shit the bed real quick. Both my jester heel pieces became super loose on their tracks, and at the pivotal point. There was a ridiculous amount of play in both heel pieces so I got rid of them. Never had an issue with the toe pieces.

if you're using griffons for a long time that says enough about how hard you ski.... lol

I don't know why, but I feel like I used a fritshi jig with mine. Would have to have someone check the facts on that one, but wanted to put it out there.

I have mounted dozens of tyrolia/head bindings, basically all the models they make, and they definitely don't take a Fritschi pattern.

Okay, thanks for the clarification. I was mounting the adrenalin, which I forgot to specify.

I still don't think so. If memory serves, all fritschi bindings have a 3 hole heel pattern, and the adrenalines definitely have a 4 hole toe.