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How to land a job out of state before moving

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ny300z
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So i have been wanting to move from NY to CO for a long time now.

I started looking at jobs (im in I.T) in CO but im just curious how i would get a job there while still here in NY.

Will companies looking for people just throw my resume to the side since im not actually living in the state yet? or do i have a fair chance as if i was there? anyone have any experience with this sort of thing?

Would they be willing to do phone/video interviews before having me spend the money on a flight there just for a interview?

I also wish there were a way to find a job specifically in the ski industry somewhere as that would obviously be a dream come true.

any info is appreciated, thanks
Oct 18 2013 10:00AM
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miroz
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Many companies give you the option of uploading additional documents with your résumé. Write a cover letter! You get to highlight the most important aspects of your résumé and explain that you're really excited to move.

Also - start emailing people from the company. Find out email addresses or the company's email chain and start shooting out emails with your résumé asking people to forward it to someone who can do something about it. This will work only 1/10 of the time but if you write them well, you can include that you're eager to move.
Oct 18 2013 10:07AM
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theabortionator
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Pretty simple. It all depends on what you're looking for. If you're down with any job at any place you shouldn't have any problems unless your record shows that you're a serial killer and you eat a bunch of mescaline the day they call you for the interview.

Are there any mountains or even regions you want to live? If you have a specific job in mind you can google it and probably find a few options through indeed, simply hired, etc.

If you know what mountain/ mountains you want to work at you can check the employment on their website and see what they're offering/ apply if you like something.

Might not be a bad idea to contact friends out there or start looking at craigslist housing to figure out what's available housing wise. If you get the job they're going to expect you to be able to get out there and live, and will probably ask what your plan is during the interview seeing as you're massively out of state.

Some jobs like lift attendants and ticket cheakers everyone always seems to be hiring and you can get those jobs right up till the end. Other jobs like park crew are already getting filled as we speak.

If you don't care what job you do or where you work at a mountain, and have anything even one step up from the hobo in the alley next to your house for a reference you should be fine.

Also if you get in at a place out there you could always move onto a different job the next season. Ticket checking could pay the bills this season until you get marketing job or whatever for the next one.

Oct 18 2013 10:39AM
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theBearJew
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Get on LinkedIn and talk to some recruiters that live in that area. I used to be a recruiter and did alot of IT work. When people reached out to me about moving and I had jobs for them it was the best. Always easy cause they wanted to relocate and I didn't have to talk them into it.

And on LinkedIn you can reach out to alot of the companies you want to work for asking some of the employees how they got started and how you can get started in the industry in CO.
Oct 18 2013 10:45AM
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skiierman
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The same way you would with any other job?
Oct 18 2013 10:49AM
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ny300z
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thanks for the responses guys!

Linkedin sounds like a good idea. Unfortunately i am not really young anymore and been doing IT for 10 years now (im 31) so getting any ol job out there to get by would be a waste to me since im not in the career ive been working in for years.

I know i want to be in Colorado. I already applied to Vail resorts a few times. But it seems most IT jobs close to my level are in Denver.

I guess i should start looking at housing just in case i get the job and have to move asap or get asked on my interview like one of you mentioned. I need to figure out a good place to live so that im between Denver and one of the mountain resorts.

networking might be my best bet, send random emails to companies, linkedin, talk to people who live out there, etc.

Oct 18 2013 10:54AM
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skiierman
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Do you know what Linkedin is? Why am I even asking you this? You're 30 and asking kids on NS how to apply for a job that's in a different state... of course you don't know.

Oh and yes, one of the smartest moves you can make is to look for housing BEFORE you get a job. Snatch that lease up quick because housing is SO much harder to get than a job! And unlike a job, you can get out of a lease with hardly any financial backlash.

Good luck.
Oct 18 2013 11:06AM
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ny300z
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appreciate the second part of your post but not sure why u gotta be a dick about the first part.

Yes i have heard of linkedin before but never joined it. Ive been at the same company for 8 years so im a little behind times with looking for jobs. Whats so crazy about asking people on here? i figured a lot of people on here move to states to ski and had to get jobs in the process. It doesnt hurt to ask does it?

thanks for wishing me luck though


Oct 18 2013 11:11AM
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Lemuel
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Buy this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Job-Learn-Find-Your-Next/dp/0615514537/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343094344&sr=8-1&keywords=%22Job!+Learn+How+To+Find+Your+Next+Job+In+1+Day%22

Tell's you how to make a great resume and tells you all about going through the process of finding a job. I applied for a few jobs on Vail's website back in the spring, never heard back. Legit I applied for one a few weeks ago after remaking my resume and they called the next day. It's really simple basic stuff but it works. I read the book in a day, real easy read.
Oct 18 2013 11:16AM
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RubberSoul
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he's being sarcastic in the second part. don't try to make sense of his anger toward you, just learn to ignore his posts

good luck with the job hunt. when i've jobhunted out of state it's been similar to the crapshoot that is regular jobhunting for the most part. the biggest difference in my experience was that for serious jobs, you sometimes gotta be okay with the idea of flying out for an interview without any guarantee that you will land the job. hope you are financially stable so you can be flexible! good luck man
Oct 18 2013 11:24AM
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ny300z
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yea i see his name and assume hes trying to be a dick

but thanks, yea i realize its not a perfect world and i might have to fly out there for a interview and not get it. It would suck but i can afford to if i have to. (i can always get a little skiing in while im there)





Oct 18 2013 11:31AM
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CaptainObvious.
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I'm very very similar to you. I moved from Tahoe to Colorado a while back. Yes, you can land jobs before moving out here, but there is a large chunk of employers who won't consider you until you have a CO address because they're under the assumption you want financial help when moving.

Save up a few months' worth of living expenses, lock down a cheap apt. and just move out here. Apply everywhere you would like a job and in the meantime work as a server or bartender to curb eating into your few months' savings as much as you can. I had a job in IT within a month of moving here and had far less experience than you do.
Oct 18 2013 11:32AM
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ny300z
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thank you. thats probably the easiest/best way yet the most ballsy to do. I probably should just man up an do what i gotta do to follow my dream right?

i will consider this. Also as for my experience, its actually easier with less i think....I see a lot of help desk tech jobs with somewhat low pay but not many higher up jobs anywhere near what im making now but they are out there.

Gonna be hard to go from a full time IT manager paycheck to a bartender/waiter type job but it does take sacrifice sometimes to get somewhere
Oct 18 2013 11:41AM
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CaptainObvious.
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Yeah, the one I landed was a helpdesk tech job at DISH Network headquarters. It was a paycut and job demotion for me too, but it's fairly assumed that those positions are simply a foot in the door. I was only doing it for like 6 months and then moved to a real position.
Oct 18 2013 11:43AM
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ny300z
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great, in that case maybe i can take one of those jobs while i look for something better or just prove myself and work my way up. thanks for the good advice
Oct 18 2013 11:46AM
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skiierman
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Hahahaha! My god you are in such deep shit if you really think that a company will make you pay for a flight out just to have them interview you in person.

Yeah the world isn't perfect but you don't have to worry about that because it appears you haven't been on this planet in quite a while.
Oct 18 2013 11:55AM
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RubberSoul
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it's rare, but it does happen. sometimes to get where you want to be you have to deal with shitty stuff like being just as available as the other applicant who lives 20 min from the job, on your own nickel. ive applied to jobs where i had to pretend i was going to be in town for a week so i could interview, otherwise they were going to say, fuck it, we have dece applicants who live here.

youre at least 25... out of curiosity, what do you do? it must be some real impressive shit for you to be talking down to people so excitedly. i also hope that the majority of your angry, overeager posts are made from your work desk..

Oct 18 2013 12:08PM
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ny300z
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Real cool being a internet troll, i hope hes 15 because thats the only excuse he can have.
Oct 18 2013 12:22PM
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0123456789
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my industry is totally different ( golf) but at my course weve hired quite a few people from out of state, who send in a resume and from there a skype interview is generally the way to go, occasionally someone will fly down for an in person interview. 

does your current company have any offices in CO? transfers are totally viable.  if not just send hella rezs out and hope someone will call you back and from there set up the skype interview, explain your situation.  were all humans, as long as you have housing/vehicle/etc... lined up and will be moved in and ready to go a week before the start date of the new job most companies would accomadate you as long as youre bringing something to the table.
Oct 18 2013 3:17PM
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ny300z
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good to know, i was hoping for a phone/skype interview kinda thing. I guess we'll see once i start getting some calls.

My company does have a tiny CO office but my office here in NY is the main hub with all the servers that i maintain and i manage 2 help desk techs and a web designer here so i would need to be here to oversee all that.

Im just gonna continue throwing my resume out there and hope for a call because then i can explain the situation better. But as someone else said maybe i should consider just going out there and getting any job or small tech job to hold me over till i find something good.

thanks


Oct 18 2013 3:32PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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you must have a really shitty job to think that flights are a huge expense

Oct 18 2013 7:41PM
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Iliveinutah
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super hard to do, i tryed when i recently moved from NC to Utah i mean you can prob set a interview the first day you get there or maybe a skype interview but very unlikely. you can most likly get a job as a ski tech at a ski shop pretty quick when you get there until you find out what you wanna do. my advice is to have 1000k on top of rent and all the other expenses so you have enough to live for about a month or two incase you have a hard time getting going
Oct 18 2013 7:50PM
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Avifarer
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My cousin did her first interview with a company over skype, she pretty much got the job then when she arrived in the city she went for a 2nd interview and got it.
Dunno how many companies do skype interviews but worth asking i suppose.
Oct 18 2013 8:21PM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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jesus, dude. what kind of life do you live where you'd need $1,000,000 on top of rent, etc. to survive?
Oct 18 2013 9:24PM
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skiierman
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They're expensive for anyone, fucking racist. That's why flights are always put on company accounts... you stupid idiot.
Oct 18 2013 11:31PM
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RubberSoul
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dude you mustve forgotten to tell me what your super impressive job is!
Oct 19 2013 12:39PM
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ny300z
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haha^^

thanks for the advice everyone...im really gonna try an get this done
Oct 19 2013 4:25PM
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mammothpunks
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Mammoth is looking for another PC tech right now.

http://jobs.mammothmountain.com/career/index.cfm

Might be a lower position than what you are looking for, but you get to work on the mountain and take ski breaks and its a super chill department.
Oct 19 2013 6:35PM
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ny300z
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hey man thanks a lot. I just applied. Yes thats a lower position but god id love to work at mammoth!

i hope i at least get a call, once i talk to someone i think i got a good chance.
Oct 23 2013 11:04AM
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