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ClassicBrian
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Dear NS,
I recently got a job at a ski shop and have been working there for about three months now. Almost every time I work I get a "park" skier coming in and saying that their full tilts or salmon spks suck and that they don't fit and that they need a new pair of boots. When I ask them where they bought their boots from, they reply "online" 100% of the time. I can't stress enough that unless you know what you're talking about with boots, what your foot is like, and what your preference is, consult a boot fitter before buying. Most of the kids coming in say their boots are too small, but they have a 28.5 and actually have a size too big. Ski boots are all about personal preference, not buying the top of the line boot because the pros ski it. Be smart with spending your money on boots; it'll really pay off on the hill.
Oct 8 2013 9:34PM
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Cleapster
Posts: 622 - Karma: 1,402
Don't listen to him everyone knows if you buy fulltilts you will be really good.
Oct 8 2013 10:00PM
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snakerton
Posts: 2434 - Karma: 1,977
Boot fitters are over paid ass holes
Oct 8 2013 10:03PM
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jwv
Posts: 560 - Karma: 1,190
Honestly that shouldn't matter, all I care about is getting a pair of boots that fit damn well, and if they can do that for me, then great!
Oct 8 2013 10:48PM
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oil.
Posts: 2255 - Karma: 1,254
also, i support what OP says. a well-fit boot, fit by a qualified boot fitter, is the best piece of equipment you can buy.
Oct 8 2013 11:25PM
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.[sanhedrin].
Posts: 1654 - Karma: 938
Removing foot pain and overall bullshit issues with my boots changed everything about my experience on the hill each day. This man preaches the truth.
Oct 9 2013 12:00AM
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paige.
Posts: 1932 - Karma: 922
In addition:
If, after trying on several pairs of boots that feel like shit, the bootfitter tells you "Well that's it for pairs in your size, that's all we can do for you so you'll just have to choose one of them", you should walk away. Either he's a shitty bootfitter and there are lots of things he could try to make the boots fit better but he is unwilling to, or none of the boots fit and none of the boots are going to fit.

... sigh. I hate buying boots.
Oct 9 2013 12:08AM
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.Duncan.
Posts: 1375 - Karma: 459
Along with this, remember that the bootfitter is also a salesman, he wants to make a sale on what boots they have in stock even if its not a perfect fit. If they seem over zealouss to get you to buy the boot, I always wait and look around at the other shops in the area to get another opinion.
Oct 9 2013 12:45AM
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crazy_karl
Posts: 774 - Karma: 5,046
The best thing to do is go to a shop and buy your boot locally. Not only are you supporting your local businesses, but they will actually set you up with a boot that works for your foot. If you're lucky, you will have a FullTilt foot.
Oct 9 2013 12:55AM
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willysworld
Posts: 2116 - Karma: 5,485
does that then make you an over paid douchebag?
Oct 9 2013 4:43AM
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SFBv420.0
Posts: 2539 - Karma: 3,124
you made and put gear gabberz psa in sg
that says the same shit as the how to buy boots stickey
your shop sure is lucky to have such talent.
what shop is it?


Oct 9 2013 6:18AM
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LC.
Posts: 5952 - Karma: 2,423
Not true. I was a below-average paid asshole as a bootfitter.
Oct 9 2013 6:27AM
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heFF
Posts: 5786 - Karma: 4,456
but don't go to a bootfitter..have him work with you for over an hour to find what fits then go online and buy it for cheaper..unless it's from the shops website
Oct 9 2013 8:08AM
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hi_vis360
Posts: 5104 - Karma: 51,867
probably one of the biggest dick moves you could make. The reason why the boots cost more in the shop is because you're getting that service. Support your local ski shop so that you can continue to have that service available.
Oct 9 2013 8:52AM
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TBONE902
Posts: 266 - Karma: 708
Gotta support the local shops, get tight with the people who work there, get the sickest deals on dope gear! If your local spot is hard up for the ideal/most steeze equipment, buying online is sometimes crucial, but hopefully your shop at least has some quality boots
Oct 9 2013 9:39AM
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kevinegan
Posts: 117 - Karma: 120
If you buy boots from my local shop in Truckee they will do any adjustment or work on the boots for free for life. Let's see a website do that shit
Oct 9 2013 10:46AM
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Oxburger
Posts: 123 - Karma: 1,262
Asshole maybe, overpaid and working at a ski shop? Unheard of...
Oct 9 2013 10:49AM
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John18_6
Posts: 7313 - Karma: 49,165
Squid shit? Lol I fucking lost it
Oct 9 2013 10:55AM
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Twinjibber77
Posts: 6239 - Karma: 2,355
If you're born with shitty feet i heard you can surgically get new ones just for fulltilt's, that's what my boot fitter told me. Definitely your best bet.
Oct 9 2013 11:10AM
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telecolo_
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a lot of misplaced awkward hating here! i couldn't agree more with the OP. i have really bad collapsable arches so skiing normal soles results in about 2 runs and 4 days of really uncomfortable walking. stopped in one day over at [i wont place name here so people don't think i am pitching.. but i will say his name is larry, and he works in Boulder] and had them take a look. they rigged up some really nice cork foot beds and i have not had a problem since. especially for those with awkward feet, going to a shop is crucial. i would honestly rather pay an extra $150 and get boots that fit my feet perfectly that allow me to ski all day.
Oct 9 2013 11:14AM
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.[sanhedrin].
Posts: 1654 - Karma: 938
This is quite common if the shop has someone who knows what they're doing. The shop I worked at had that one guy who would take the boots downstairs and tinker with them until they stopped causing you pain. In some cases this only required a few visits, and a few less than perfect days on the hill. For many, however, it was a process that was continual. But after it was right - you're set up perfectly. Custom footbeds should be a requirement for anybody who is genuine in their attempts to not experience foot pain while skiing.
Oct 9 2013 11:53AM
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DP*
Posts: 2872 - Karma: 1,065
although hes not advertising for his shop at all so why dont you back the fuck up
Oct 9 2013 12:17PM
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Troy.
Posts: 5070 - Karma: 12,549
I can't even fathom half of you morons. I'm too sober for this shit.

Basically, shut the fuck up you east coast 12 year olds.
Oct 9 2013 1:13PM
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oil.
Posts: 2255 - Karma: 1,254
... wait what
Oct 9 2013 1:21PM
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coreyroy
Posts: 144 - Karma: 180
OP is right, but one thing to consider is that though the boot fitter is helping you get the right size boot, he/she does not know what your foot is feeling inside that boot. A year ago i bought a pair of fultilts and it was my first time buying boots in years so i was unaware of how a new boot is supposed to properly fit. The shop i bought them from "guarantees their fit" but about half way through the season i started to experience horrible shinbang from the over sized boot that inevitably ruined the second part of my season. I recently went to another shop and now im in a pair of spk's that are 2 sizes smaller. Regardless to the boots brand, all i am saying is if youre looking for boots, do some research online on how a proper ski boot should fit so you can work together with the boot fitter when finding the right boot.
Oct 9 2013 1:57PM
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TotalNan
Posts: 147 - Karma: 339
Couldn't agree more. Everybody's foot is different. Fat, skinny, long, short, tall... gotta try the boots on and see what feels the best. You may be surprised what feels the most comfortable
Oct 9 2013 2:01PM
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Holte
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Screw all of you with normal shaped feet. I've never had a boot that didn't require multiple days of punch out work. Every time I get a new pair it's an exercise in trying on 12 different boots and then molding the hell out of the ankles.
Oct 9 2013 2:09PM
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DanielHanka
Posts: 672 - Karma: 12,375
The truth has been told!
Oct 9 2013 2:11PM
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Snowtorious_BIG
Posts: 659 - Karma: 1,467
FigNewton has cool full tilts, he knows what he's talking about
Oct 9 2013 2:18PM
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deleted5
Posts: 14507 - Karma: 13,507
dependes on the person, when I used to race, I had a guy come to my house, and get a mold of my foot. He was really good and worth the money.
Oct 9 2013 2:21PM
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deleted5
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also I'm going to go on record and say I like my salomon SPK's from 08. Much better than my shitty wallish full tilts from 2012 they broke 2 times, and it was a nighmare dealing with FT trying to get them to fix it. I had to wait 4 weeks durring the winter to get them back, and they broke again 3 days later. You do not get the customer service with FT, and after I spend over 600$ for a boot I would like them to fix it quickly, or get me a replacement so i can use it. I will never be dealing with them again.
Oct 9 2013 2:28PM
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Mr.Bishop
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Yeah, establishing a relationship with a boot fitter is key. My feet are super wide, so I have huge problems with most types of boots.

Its the only piece of gear that really needs to be completely customized to you.
Oct 9 2013 2:28PM
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JeremyH
Posts: 2283 - Karma: 275
hahhhaaa
Oct 9 2013 3:04PM
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PositiveSpin
Posts: 113 - Karma: 690
Buy local and support your local ski shop. Cost of ski boots should be less important that how they feel. Oh, and get some footbeds if your feet hurt.


Oct 9 2013 3:23PM
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Gr0mo
Posts: 707 - Karma: 3,663
i get fitted for boots and buy the used online. not trying to be a dick but the only ski shop by me inflates prices by about 50%. Also its not like i don't give them any money, i come back to get them fitted and molded and sometimes mounted/adjusted to my skis.
Oct 9 2013 3:45PM
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SolidDownSouth
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"over paid" dude yeah they get wayyy too much money #StabBootFitters
Oct 9 2013 3:56PM
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ALaw
Posts: 2616 - Karma: 1,552
ALWAYS get your boots from a good shop that has a good bootfitter. They know what they're doing and will put you in a boot that is right for YOU! Or you could always go custom ;)
Oct 9 2013 4:23PM
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windhamskier
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i have those icelantic 1st degree boots, sickest boots ive ever skied, better than full tilt
Oct 9 2013 5:15PM
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cobra_commander
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If your boot fitter does not recommend full tilts, they obviously don't understand your needs as a park skier. Don't listen to their salesman doublespeak. Go somewhere else.
Oct 9 2013 5:39PM
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Condorobrien
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the boot is the most important part of your ski equipment and fit is everything. i wore a boot 2 sizes too big for 2 years and thought they were good but when i actually got fitted by someone who knew what they were talking about i found a boot that gave me the best connection to my ski i could ask for!
Oct 9 2013 6:47PM
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rozboon
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Considering those 2 boots have basically polar opposite fits, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that one of those 2 pairs of boots must have been a simply terrible fit. Either that or your foot is somewhere in the middle, and they both just kinda sucked a bit.
Oct 9 2013 6:50PM
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BROLF
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I cant even count the times ive seen something like this on newschoolers
Oct 9 2013 7:12PM
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deleted5
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Did you read what I wrote? One broke, and the other didn't it, FT has garbage costumer service.
Oct 9 2013 9:32PM
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BROLF
Posts: 1598 - Karma: 5,098
did you read what he wrote? why would you have two boots that fit two opposite foot shapes? He is saying theres no way both of those fit you so you made the wrong choice on one of them. Nothing to do with customer service
Oct 9 2013 9:56PM
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deleted5
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Being that one broke the first day i used it, it has everything to do with customer service.
Oct 9 2013 9:58PM
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MontanaMuggin
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What makes a full tilt foot? Haha wide skinny long etc.
Oct 9 2013 10:58PM
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deleted5
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really skinny.
Oct 9 2013 11:01PM
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slowaimer
Posts: 278 - Karma: 1,510
My Fulltilts I bought online work just fine. Also if you go to a boot fitter go to one with good reviews or something like that because my roommate just lost two of his toenails because the boots his boot fitter sold him are a size to small
Oct 9 2013 11:19PM
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ThaLorax
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LOL, what is a "long" foot?



This thread thread is awesome.
Oct 10 2013 1:38AM
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Miclovin
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Idk with technology these days I feel like going to an online bootfitter would be more suitable
Oct 10 2013 1:42AM
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