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America's Worst Charities

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theabortionator
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http://www.tampabay.com/americas-worst-charities/
Sep 25 2013 4:17AM
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Olimar
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im going to be honest, I dont know if I believe this or not. There are some pretty big name charities up there.
Sep 25 2013 8:41AM
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yelsel
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for some reason that doesnt surprise me one bit
Sep 25 2013 9:47AM
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Wallisch_pl
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I think that's sort of obvious, I've never thought about donating to charities for that reason
Sep 25 2013 9:54AM
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japanada
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Read this as Americas Worst Chairlifts. Was disappointed. Damn early, cold, snowy mornings!
Sep 25 2013 9:58AM
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ski4fun420
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Here is one who boasts 99% goes directly to "our programs." These "programs" appear to be costly to run.
This one claims to be ranked #7 on the good list. I wonder what they really pay out? http://www.helpthechildren.org/about-help-the-children/htc-makes-americas-top-charities?gclid=CPfz5sjb5rkCFQik4Aodzw4A0Q
Sep 25 2013 10:08AM
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Stainr
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same
Sep 25 2013 11:44AM
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CaptainObvious.
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5 of the top 11 are cancer charities.
Sep 25 2013 11:49AM
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Wallisch_pl
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thats y there is stil cansur
Sep 25 2013 12:02PM
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cool_name
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no, you never donate because you are selfish and use this list to rationalize your actions to yourself. Just because some charities are bad doesn't mean you shouldn't donate to any charities.

inb4 some half ass excuse about how you bought a sandwich for some homeless guy once and "give' in many other ways

The amount some of these companies actually donate is a problem, but i think spending money on advertising and even hiring good executives is worth it in the long because it lead to more awareness and if done correctly more donations
Sep 25 2013 12:15PM
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yelsel
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"if done correctly"-key words right there.

and for the record, i totally agree with what you just wrote. i've donated and raised funds for years for breast cancer awareness and the cancer society itself. i also used to volunteer for habitat for humanity back in the day. then i found out that the group here in my city had two people on the board that used the groups money as their own personal ATM-gas for personal cars, groceries, dental work, etc. worst part of that was that other board members knew about it, made them pay some of the money back but never kicked them off the board....those two members are still on the board today and still pilfer money.
Sep 25 2013 12:20PM
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theabortionator
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If under 5% of funds are actually going toward the cause that's pretty awful no matter how you spin it.

Sep 25 2013 5:44PM
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volvotom
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CharityNavigator.org is another great resource.

But I hate pink ribbons. Boobs just get the money because they're fun. I mean who doesn't like boobs? (well maybe gay guys, but I digress) Heart Disease kills magnitudes more women than breast cancer but isn't as sexy or fun and is actually much easier to prevent (exercise, eat right).
Sep 26 2013 1:48AM
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theabortionator
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There are some pretty good docs on that. The pink ribbons and cancer situation that is.


Sep 26 2013 3:08AM
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volvotom
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Ya, I've seen one of them. That one was more about how it's used to sell products than it is to help cancer (also something that I believe).


Sep 26 2013 4:31PM
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skiierman
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No shit, you fucking idiot.
Sep 26 2013 5:11PM
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GayWolf420
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This. If they really were non-profit, The founders and CEO's of them wouldn't be making 7 figure salaries off of it.
Sep 26 2013 5:11PM
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deleted5
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they forgot about the Catholic church.
Sep 26 2013 5:23PM
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GayWolf420
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I heard mormons have to donate like 10 or 15 percent of their income to the church.
Sep 26 2013 5:25PM
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TOAST.
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I think that is how it is for many churches if I remember right.
Sep 26 2013 9:23PM
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FuckAllOfYou
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at least amnesty intl isn't on there, but i guess it's international so it doesn't count
Sep 26 2013 10:22PM
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Kazabazua
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I used to canvas for a variety of different charities (MSF, CNIB, Ottawa Humane Society, Amnesty) and you can always tell how shitty a charity is based on its administration costs. MSF (Doctor's without borders) is a pretty good one and have an admin cost of about 2.5%. United Way on the other hand which is a piece of shit, has an administration cost of about 20% - which means 20% of your money is going directly into some rich fucks pocket.

Always look at the admin cost before donating.

Sep 26 2013 10:39PM
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Tinga
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I suppose an argument could be made that total dollars given is more important than total percentage...

but I would agree that most of those shitty organizations could be doing a better job.
Sep 26 2013 11:25PM
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K-Dot.
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And its untaxed income to the church. There should be a law IMO
Sep 26 2013 11:33PM
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saskskier
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The churches I have attended use some of that money to cover costs (staff, building costs/maintenance, some into a savings/emergency fund) and pretty much the rest goes local (food programs, ESL classes, etc., community organizations) national and international organizations (schools, wells, orphanages, clinics, etc). All organizations these churches have partnered with have been chosen carefully based on the work they are doing/where the money goes. Buildings aren't anything special, pastors/staff aren't living extravagantly and they are serving the community.

Granted this is not true for all churches and those that try to extort those around them piss me off, but a lot are doing good, practical work in their local communities without stuffing Jesus down anyone's throat.
Sep 27 2013 12:10AM
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Tinga
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priests in catholic church on the other hand are trying to stuff something down throats... it's not jesus though.
Sep 27 2013 12:14AM
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saskskier
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It's a good thing the catholic church isn't representative of all churches.
Sep 27 2013 12:29AM
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K-Dot.
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Yeah but you pretty much just showed that it has all the makings of a business so i believe that in the eyes of the law it should be treated as one. I also am surrounded by mormons who put the money towards extravagant temples and seminary buildings at every high school, which is another thing that bugs me
Sep 27 2013 1:00AM
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louie.mirags
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You said boobs get the money because they're fun but it is because there is no cure when heart disease has preventative measures you listed..
Sep 27 2013 1:07AM
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saskskier
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How is that different than a charity? They pay for staff, building maintenance/operating costs and provide service for the community as well. These churches do not charge people money and operate on donations just like any other non-profit. Extra money is saved for helping in times of need (someone's house burns down, southern Alberta flood disaster this summer, etc).
Sep 27 2013 1:07AM
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deleted5
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go through your churches fiance records, i guarantee people are taking a salary, and saving some of the money they get. being that they don't pay taxes you'd be shock how much money those churches make and have to throw around. if all churches donate so much money then they should count it as a tax write off you all live here, pay your taxes.
Sep 27 2013 1:54AM
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SteevJee
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Yup, but I could honestly care less about donating that. The church does a great job on the humanitarian side of things. You can hate the mormons all you want and say that our beliefs are ridiculous, but when it comes down to it, all religion aside, no one can hate on the churches humanitarian work.
Sep 27 2013 2:21AM
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louie.mirags
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Yeah... but, Mormon belief is ridiculous...

It started so recently. Crazy how cults can brainwash the simple minded.
Sep 27 2013 2:23AM
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Phil-X-
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haha wow, very professional..

I wish you had the fucking balls to say something like that about islam on open forum.


No really, whats the difference between the Muslim prophet Muhammad, who was a little girl raping sack of shit, and a catholic priest? Oh yea, an entire religion is based around one.





yea, be offended you pussies.
Sep 27 2013 2:30AM
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Sep 27 2013 2:30AM
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louie.mirags
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You said to "hate all you want" and I'm bored on a night shift...

I admit that I shouldn't have questioned shittttttt
Sep 27 2013 3:08AM
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theabortionator
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I don't even have anything against muslims and think they get a bad rap in our society but almost tempted to say something because I think your post is ridiculous.

Fuck all these "say something about islam bitch" type statements that people make. Like you can say anything you want about christians but if you hassle muslims it'll start a ruckus. Look at the vibe this country already puts off toward that religion. In spite of how you feel, our country as a whole is pretty fucking accepting of christians comparatively.

Then you go on some lame rant at the end = sweet comment bro. That's what I hate about discussions of religion and politics. They end in ignorant assclowns bitching.

Yolosawg420blazejah


/ Back to charities and all that
Sep 27 2013 5:30AM
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disastertourism
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They're still raising millions of dollars for charity though.
Sep 27 2013 9:29AM
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hey-dude-its-me
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It also disincentivizes the doctors working on it. cancer=money, no cancer=no money
Sep 27 2013 9:44AM
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skiierman
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They're still stealing tens of millions of dollars from the charity though.
Sep 27 2013 10:01AM
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Wallisch_pl
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nope, not really, lol considering this is my first time seeing that list? I also don't have money to donate, I'm not old enough to have a real steady job
Sep 27 2013 10:30AM
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disastertourism
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Or more, they're spending money on fund raising so they can raise 100x what they could without spending that money.
Sep 27 2013 10:39AM
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james6345789
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#kony2012
Sep 27 2013 10:45AM
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saskskier
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Yes, the people on staff take a salary and pay income tax just like everyone else. They need to be able to pay their bills and support their families too. People who work for charities are in the same boat. At least one of the churches I've gone to has an outside audit done every year to ensure the money is being used well. Each year the report comes back positive.
Sep 27 2013 11:16AM
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Mr.LemonPie
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Prists rape little boys not little girls...


^^^this guy right...^^^ Thinking Catholic Priests like girls...HA.
Sep 27 2013 11:16AM
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saskskier
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Priests don't rape little boys any more than anyone else. They just get more attention.

http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/do-the-right-thing/201003/six-important-points-you-dont-hear-about-regarding-clergy-sexual-abus

http://www.themediareport.com/fast-facts/
Sep 27 2013 11:22AM
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Zimmerman
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There are much better things one can do with their money, directly, to help people other than donating to charities
Sep 27 2013 12:52PM
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Sep 27 2013 2:25PM
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Mr.LemonPie
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Hey man I never said they did. He just said that priests were like Muhammad. I just pointed out that while Muhammad liked the little vag priests are obviously more inclined to the tight bumhole. Just stating the facts here...
Sep 27 2013 2:54PM
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doGelyst
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You wanna help out? Donate your time. Not just chucking money at some website or hashtag.
Sep 27 2013 3:01PM
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cool_name
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you may of never seen the list, but you did say you thought it was obvious charities were like this and never donated for that reason, maybe you should reread your post, i put it below to make it easier for you
Quoting Wallisch_pls from Sep 25 2013 9:54:52:
I think that's sort of obvious, I've never thought about donating to charities for that reason






nobody said you had to donate tons of money, it is better to donate a loonie then not donate at all, if you actually have no money to donate because mommy and daddy pay for all your stuff why don't you donate some of your time?
Sep 27 2013 5:54PM
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