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PBR brewskis!!

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natekeeney
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hey guys first time post on here... but have been reading up quite a bit on some skis im thinking about buying off craigslist and wanted to get some advice since I got a lot of mixed opinions from my research.

Im thinking about buying some k2 PBR brewskis 179's and I believe they are the maiden AK model (108 underfoot) the owner doesn't know much about them so its hard to get info before I meet up with them and check them out myself. there are a ton of threads on here about them but I really don't know what to take from the comments. Here is the link

http://fresno.craigslist.org/spo/4053572137.html

Please give me any info/ help you can it would be much appreciated!!

they are selling for 200 each.... she has accepted my offer for 150 and will give me both for 300... thinking about selling snowboard for some profit... let me know if you can tell me anything about the board

I ski in an area in central cali where there isn't too much snow so im wondering if this ski is going to be too wide even if its not quite big enough to be a "powder ski" I still would like to do quite a bit of park which is part of my reasoning for it

I also was wondering about proper boot flex for this type of ski and a binding/ mounting location that would go well (trying to stay within a budget)

thanks for the help!!
Sep 24 2013 1:57AM
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natekeeney
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soooo your saying what?
Sep 24 2013 8:50PM
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50Kal
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I don't know anything about this ski. But just from looking at it seems like a 110+ underfoot. If you want a park ski I don't think this is what you want.
But it's $200 dollar brand new ski. It be worth it to meet the guy and check it out. Should be labeled on the skis what the dimensions are. Call the guy and ask him. if its less than 110 underfoot it would work.
Sep 24 2013 10:01PM
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k2andcannoli
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I skied a friends a few years ago. No rocker and midfat size. I like the ski, it does better on groomed than deepish pow. Idk what the snow is like in central cali but if its wet and heavy like I assume, the ski would be fine. Its a bit soft but has good pop.
Sep 24 2013 10:53PM
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natekeeney
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thanks for the help! Its a pretty good deal I think I've seen most of go for about 300 on here... getting em for 125
Sep 25 2013 12:26AM
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natekeeney
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also need some bindings and boots any suggestions? I'm 6'3 190 intermediate skiier probably about an 80 flex
Sep 25 2013 12:31AM
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cydwhit
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Hmmm, you are in Fresno so probably china peak? Definitely overkill for there but still, pbr skis for that price, pretty rad, also I skied a 110 waist ski in the park last year and had fun, just depends on your style.
Sep 25 2013 12:35AM
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natekeeney
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haha very nice... what do u mean my overkill?
Sep 25 2013 12:55AM
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cydwhit
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Well, a ski that fat is meant to ski well in soft snow, float in pow. Last three years China peak has had very little of that, at least compared to what I am use to, so this ski will be a little heavier and less quick then say an 80mm waisted ski but it wont be too bad at all. I will probably be skiing there on my hell bents (132mm waist) for the few days I am down there so it really just depends on your style, If you like to be really quick, do a lot of rails and future spin in the park these skis will not do as well as a skinny park ski, If you like to play around on the whole mountain these should be fine, hope that helps and let me know if you have any other questions!
Sep 25 2013 1:01AM
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natekeeney
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thanks that was really helpful... I think they will be ok. just gotta buy some bindings and mount em. any comments on bindings or boots??
Sep 25 2013 1:09AM
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natekeeney
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no not my first set up but first time doing anything myself... bought some cheap shit just to get started... now I wanna get into it and get quality gear
Sep 25 2013 1:13AM
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cydwhit
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Hmmm, well, for bindings it really depends on how big you are but my guess is you would be fine in a 12 din binding, maybe do some research just to check though. If so you have a lot of options, for a cheap light binding I really like my marker squires, I know a lot of people hate on them but I have had zero problems with mine and have skied the hard. For a while marker griffins were on sale on backcountry.com, if they still are that would be a great option, otherwise just shop around and read reviews. For boots everyone will tell you to go see a bootfitter and they are right, if you can't find one or can't afford it, and you are just starting to ski you can probably get by with cheap ones, I am going to catch so much flack for this but I skied for two years in thrift store boots, then bought used boots off a freind and then bought used boots off here. Eventually you are going to want to get fitted because a good fitting boot makes a huge difference but if you are just a weekend warrior you can make it with whatever feels nice on your feet. Sorry for the mega post and please excuse any errors as this was all typed on mobile
Sep 25 2013 1:19AM
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cydwhit
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Also check the what binding thread stickies at the top of gear talk
Sep 25 2013 1:20AM
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natekeeney
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haha it's cool man I appreciate the help the more the better... I've been looking around quite a bit heard nothing but good things about markers
Sep 25 2013 1:29AM
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natekeeney
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alright sounds good thanks man
Sep 25 2013 10:37AM
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Huck_Norris
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... Oh man, never heard of selling the skis @ an "each" price. That hurt my brain for a second before the laughter set in.


Sep 25 2013 10:56AM
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natekeeney
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the skis and snowboard are what I'm referring to as "each" why the hell would you sell individual skis??
Sep 25 2013 12:52PM
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cydwhit
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Haha, yep, I had to read that a few times too but then I got it.
Sep 25 2013 1:17PM
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AJizzle
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If you weigh 190 have 80 flex boots and 110 underfoot skis you'd gonna have a bad time. Go get fitted and look in the 90 to 100 flex range. Boots are by far the most important thing in your setup, make sure you get a proper orthodic. Fully custom is the best, but a trim to fit will work if you're not keen on dropping $100 to $200 on a footbed. Superfeet and sole are good trim to fits to check out. If you have any questions about bootfit, or don't have a fitter near you feel free to pm me.
Sep 28 2013 4:10AM
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natekeeney
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only problem is I'm pretty new to skiing and I don't think I would be comfortable or ready with a 100 flex
Oct 1 2013 1:51AM
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AJizzle
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It's all about weight bro, you have the weight to push that boot around. It may not be optimal for your first season, but it should by no means keep you fro getting far enough forward on your skis. If you plan on pushing around 110 underfoot skis and you weigh as much as you do, you need a boot stiffer than 80 flex. Look at 90 to 100 flex boots, you are tall enough and weigh enough to get good leverage on boots.
Oct 1 2013 2:16AM
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BirtDike
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Good advice. Weight is the main thing with boot flex, but do not forget athleticism (think to yourself, you do not need to ask others about your genetics)... At 190 lbs, Once you get a decent amount of days on snow, you will regret buying an 80 flex boot. go 100-110 and wear them around the house to get used to them quickly.

THE MAIN THING ABOUT BOOTS, is find something that truely fits.... doesnt matter if its the ugliest boot on the rack, get something that fits perfect and it will make you ski wayyyyy bettter. On the hill it doesnt matter how good your boots look, all that matters is how hard you rip...
Oct 1 2013 3:05AM
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natekeeney
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ok thanks for the help ill definitely consider a different boot... i am rather athletic i skiied 6 times last year (first season) and was very comfortable after the 1st day but i had shitty gear so i kinda got stuck on my ability level.  im also going to be at the mountain 3 times a week for the job i have so i plan of advancing quite a bit this season... however i also plan on doing a decent amount of park and i know that you usually want a lower flex??

But i also dont unresponsive skiis like your saying...

Oct 1 2013 1:22PM
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natekeeney
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any suggestions on boots? im looking at something under 250 like Rossignol Evo 100 Ski Boots 2013 for example
Oct 1 2013 1:29PM
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AJizzle
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Go get fit by an actual boot fitter, boot fit is the most important part of the whole setup.
Oct 1 2013 1:37PM
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natekeeney
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local store isnt exactly generous with pricing.... i guess ill just get fitted and buy online
Oct 1 2013 1:38PM
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AJizzle
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Do you ever make it up to the Bay Area?
Oct 1 2013 1:46PM
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natekeeney
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nope i ski in china peak
Oct 1 2013 1:53PM
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BirtDike
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Don't feel bad about doing this, everyone does it.
Oct 1 2013 1:55PM
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AJizzle
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Oh and as far as park goes I ski a 130 flex boot in the park and like it better than softer boots. I also weight about the same as you.
Oct 1 2013 1:55PM
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Slowbro
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I think those are the maden aks with rocker they made for brewskis a while back. Solid skis, but definitely not great for park
Oct 1 2013 2:15PM
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AJizzle
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Even if you get fit and buy your boots online, make sure that you go and have them make you a full custom orthodic after you get your boots.
Oct 1 2013 3:03PM
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BirtDike
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Im 6'3" 185 lbs, and I also use a stiff boot in the park. I use a salomon ghost 120 and full tilt first chair. I only ski about 30% park, but would still go with a stiff boot if I was a park rat.

Oct 1 2013 3:05PM
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tomPietrowski
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Not worth doing in the long run. You will still need that boot fitting so if you buy online you will have to pay a shop to do it. If you buy from a shop you get that fitting for free. So although it may seem cheaper online it actually isn't. Always get a good custom footbed. Don't even bother with trim to fit they are never worth it. A good custom if well made will easily outlive the boots so in the long run they are not really that expensive. Any questions about boots let me know.
Oct 1 2013 3:10PM
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Caucasian_Asian
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LIB-tech NAS were sold as singles.
Oct 1 2013 4:38PM
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natekeeney
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thanks for the help guys... anybody else agree with them? I'm going to be skiing a ton this season and I don't wanna get stuck with boots that aren't at my level... but don't wanna screw myself and not be able to ski in the beginning
Oct 3 2013 11:21PM
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cydwhit
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Ya, I agree in theory with all the smart bootfiters up there, In practice I can't afford it yet but when I can I will definitely get fitted. As for boot flex I wouldn't worry to much, you are big enough to push around a stiff boot, the fit is going to be much more important.
Oct 4 2013 1:16AM
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