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More or less rocker? - Line 'Bacons VS ON3P Jeffreys (Kind of)
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After years of waiting, it looks like I will finally be able to afford to go on a ski trip out west. In anticipation of this, my brother and I bought some all mountain powder skis.
I bought '12 Sir Francis Bacons this year while doing the traditional skier job of mowing lawns all summer. My brother bought some ON3P Jeffreys under recommendation of me.
I couldn't help but compare the 2 pairs of decks. My SFBs have a shorter turn radius than the Jeffreys (140-108-136 vs. 136-110-128). Both have a semblance of camber, but the Jeffreys have much more dramatic rocker than my SFBs lower profile. Weight wise without bindings they are both about 2.2kg; that surprised me as I the ON3Ps would be lighter.
Anyways I'm curious about what these skis variances equate to in terrain and condition performance. What are their strengths and weaknesses? Would my brother be able to handle deep snow better than I could because of his gear?
If I could test them out in deep snow I would, however we live in Central Canada, we're definitely not known for our deep powder. I'd have to wait to February before I could get a sense of their true capability.
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As far as pow is concerned, the main thing that will be a big determining factor there is the width of each ski. The wider the ski, the more surface area you have which helps you float above the pow better. Also is it just me or is turning radius on a ski something that really doesnt matter. I can make my skis turn however I want them to, I never missed a turn and have been like, DAMN, IF ONLY THESE HAD A DEEPER SIDECUT. Just something that seems silly to me.
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^ turn radius makes a huge difference. Yes you can make a ski if a 30m side cut turn short but it hard. If you have a ski which has an 11m radius of course it will do short turns better then a ski of 20 m. Just because you can make any ski turn does not make it efficient at doing it.
As for waist width it helps but rocker helps more. Say you have 2 skis 95mm underfoot an one is full camber the other has camber and tip rocker you are going to find you can ski the tip tuckered better in deep snow. The full cambered ski you will have to at least a little take the weight off the nose to stop it diving. This mean you are not driving the ski as hard a you coul be. The tip rocker allows you to maintain a good stance and ski hard.
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when you mach down wide open faces, shred tight ass trees and couliors, the turning radius makes a difference. Slash turns on some 194 b squads is a lot diff than the same then on some 186 JJs.
The flex of the skis comes into play when your talking rocker too, keep that in mind.
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