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E-cigarette... anybody else use one?

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uni-corn
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No, I'm not talking about those stupid ones from a gas station that are disposable. I mean a legit one.
Sep 8 2013 8:54PM
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blazer258
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my friends use the blu ones that come in that black pack, they seem to like them and there's all those flavor cartridges you can get too
Sep 8 2013 8:56PM
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.Hugo.
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My roommate is smoking one as I type this
Sep 8 2013 8:58PM
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uni-corn
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What is he using?
Sep 8 2013 9:00PM
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JAHBRADOR
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Why ecig? you some kinda fggt that doesnt like real cigs? Fuck. Whats the world coming to.
Sep 8 2013 9:01PM
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Handy_helper
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Some kid smokes those during Spanish class... Teacher is blind so it's just funny
Sep 8 2013 9:03PM
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uni-corn
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Cheaper, healthier, no odor, tastes really good.
Sep 8 2013 9:03PM
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gotti
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Theyre great for practicing smoke tricks in class. You can get them with almost zero nicotine in the cartriges so you are only breathing water vapor
Sep 8 2013 9:25PM
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XtRemE11
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pussys smoke, congrats on not having the balls to resist a retarded habit.
Sep 8 2013 9:38PM
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Granby_killdozer
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ecigs don't have tar in the vapor... stop pretending like you know what you're talking about, you self righteous nitwit.
Sep 8 2013 10:49PM
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grapejuice3000+
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i got 4 hundo e cigs
Sep 8 2013 10:51PM
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Willgum
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My friend has a legit one, he only uses 0mg nicotine. Pretty fun, not getting the hate in here
Sep 8 2013 10:52PM
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Truetape
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I have a smooke an Italian brand. it's lasted forever
Sep 9 2013 12:50AM
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.Hugo.
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An ecig. Isn't that what this thread is about?
Sep 9 2013 12:51AM
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JahJahBinks
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I will always for unknown reasons think that e-cigs are uber gay. It's like fucking beef jerkey dip.
Sep 9 2013 12:58AM
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SteevJee
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Still not sure what to think about this new craze. I think if you are trying to quit smoking then it's a pretty good alternative. However, when I see teenagers doing it to look cool I find it pretty lame. I haven't really heard anything definite on the health side of it though.
Sep 9 2013 1:02AM
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snakerton
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I don't know if all of them are like this but I used one that vaporized sheesha. I liked it. It tasted nice
Sep 9 2013 1:25AM
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MNS
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I have a rechargeable one that I puff on while browsing. Has no nicotine in it, mainly just blow rings n shit.
Sep 9 2013 2:04AM
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Errl
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Almost identical to mine. I just have a slightly bigger battery. It doesn't really leave the house too often, mainly just for kicking back while grinding arena caps and the drive to/from the mountain
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Sep 9 2013 2:48AM
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kingsskier
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Can smoke them inside where smoking is banned (at least in my state). Beats going outside in the freezing cold in the winter. (I don't smoke but can see the upside to these)
Sep 9 2013 2:50AM
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yelsel
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i use one occasionally but do some reading on it. it isnt any healthier for you
Sep 9 2013 8:06AM
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Laurent.
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Tar isn't the only thing that causes cancer, besides E-cigs have hardly been testes on, so it's very much a grey area as of right now.


"A preliminary analysis of e-cigarette cartridges by the FDA identified that some contain tobacco-specific nitrosamines (TSNAs), known cancer-causing agents. The FDA's analysis also detected diethylene glycol, a poisonous and hygroscopic liquid, in one of the cartridges manufactured by Smoking Everywhere and nicotine in some cartridges claimed to be nicotine-free.

Further concerns were raised over inconsistent amounts of nicotine delivered when drawing on the device. In some e-cigarettes, "Tobacco-specific impurities suspected of being harmful to humans – anabasine, myosmine, and ß-nicotyrine – were detected in a majority of the samples tested." It is not clear if these chemicals were detectable in exhaled vapour."
Sep 9 2013 10:16AM
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nkmo.
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Drexel University recently completed the first comprehensive study on the effects of vaping, and the effects of second hand vapor. The results?

By reviewing over 9,000 observations about the chemistry of the vapor and the liquid in e-cigarettes, Dr. Burstyn was able to determine that the levels of contaminants e-cigarette users are exposed to are insignificant, far below levels that would pose any health risk. Additionally, there is no health risk to bystanders. Proposals to ban e-cigarettes in places where smoking is banned have been based on concern there is a potential risk to bystanders, but the study shows there is no concern.
http://acsh.org/2013/08/new-study-finds-no-health-concerns-in-e-cig-vapor/

As for the Diethylene glycol claim from the FDA that Lawrence just posted:
Is there diethylene glycol glycol in my e-cigarette?

Highly unlikely. Thousands of e-cigarettes have now been tested, and so far dg has only been found in one e-cigarette. In any case, the remote possibility of dg in e-cigarettes is probably better than the certainty of dg in tobacco smoke.
http://www.ecigarettedirect.co.uk/ashtray-blog/2013/01/diethylene-glycol-electronic-cigarettes.html#sthash.rNLfih6D.dpuf

I really hate throwing around the term healthier when we are talking about inhaling nicotine. But vaping is most definitely less harmful than smoking a traditional cigarette.

I was never a PAD smoker, but I certainly enjoyed a cig or two a day, and would burn them down when drinking. Since I switched to vaping, I have had 1 cigarette in ~4 months for nostalgia's sake and I found the taste and smell absolutely disgusting. Never again.

I think its fucked up that some states allow the sale of vaping products to minors, however if you are a smoker who is looking for a less harmful alternative, I would recommend a vape all day.


As for the equipment I use: (not my pics as I'm at work, but you'll get the point)

Smoktech SID: (the middle one)
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Kamry k100:
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Sep 9 2013 11:30AM
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yelsel
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The only reason why I said that was because I use one and literally just read an article last week stating almost the complete opposite of what you found. I'm looking for the article now.
Sep 9 2013 11:35AM
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Granby_killdozer
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You're going to need something a bit more tangible than a quote that conveniently doesn't have source to sway me...
Sep 9 2013 11:39AM
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nkmo.
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Probably that bullshit article from The Huff.
Sep 9 2013 11:41AM
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Errl
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Do want to get my hands on that. Looks like a boss. Even bigger tank than my current.
Sep 9 2013 11:45AM
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nkmo.
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Thats a Kanger Protank clone from FastTech. I've never used a Protank, but the folks on r/e-cig seem to like them.

I actually use a Smoktech Octopus rebuildable atomizer on mine.
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The pic was just to show the mod.

I use Smok Pyrex tanks on my SID:
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Sep 9 2013 11:53AM
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Laurent.
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Page one of that study:

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Besides, one paper is not conclusive especially a study that compares levels of various toxins in e-cigs with threshold limit values (TLVs) which have been published by the American Council of Government Industrial Hygienists using that are generally viewed as not health protective.

In addition, as noted in the report, TLVs are for occupational exposures. Occupational exposures are generally much higher than levels considered acceptable for ambient or population-level exposures.

Occupational exposures also do not consider exposure to sensitive subgroups, such as people with medical conditions, children and infants, who might be exposed to secondhand e-cigarette emissions.

Finally, even when setting allowable occupational exposures, regulatory agencies like OSHA often establish tighter standards than TLVs, and often those tighter levels have been criticized as not being health protective.
Sep 9 2013 12:36PM
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MASkier
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Solid points all around. I would never use one, because I hate nicotine buzz, but love the taste. I really hope addicted smokers use this rather than smoking in public, as it can be annoying to people in the area.
Sep 9 2013 6:33PM
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deleted5
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I've been doing a shit load of research into this, and i don't even smoke. little research has been done on ecigarettes. you are inhaling vapor which can still be really bad for you. studys reported that vaping for just five minutes made breathing more difficult. The propylene glycol in the nicotine solution can cause respiratory inflammation and increase asthma risk. this is quoted from the study. nicotine refills in various flavors found several were toxic to human cells, primarily due to the flavorings, and because of contamination by the heating filament, some vapor contained tiny particles of silica and metals such as tin, nickel, and chromium. Nine of eleven elements found in e-cigarette vapor were at an equal or higher concentration than that found in conventional cigarette smoke.

the evidence to date strongly suggests ecigarettes beat smoking, but they are most definitely not safe.
Sep 9 2013 6:41PM
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uni-corn
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How do you like the RBA? Been thinking of getting in to one but haven't made the plunge yet. Currently using a carto/tank system on my ProVari Mini and love it.
Sep 9 2013 9:36PM
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Spagett+
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Check out this new one. It comes with a guarantee not to make you look like a douche.

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Sep 9 2013 9:39PM
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snakerton
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Any used a blu disposable? Or not what disposable should I get to try it out?
Sep 9 2013 10:16PM
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Finkle
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If I were you I would not use a disposable. They really don't give you the hit you will want if you are used to smoking cigs. Plus the investment in a good v/v v/w or something simple like an ego style battery will be way more rewarding, and you will probably have a higher success. I have been off cigarettes now for 32 days, and will never look back after starting to vape. I am obsessed, to tell you the truth. I currently use a Innokin SVD which is v/v v/w. The wonderful thing about vaping is that the selection of flavors disassociates yourself from that tobacco smell and taste, though many companies make multiple tobacco flavors if you are into that. Some companies are extremely creative in the flavors they come up with. I get my flavors from http://www.mtbakervapor.com/ who have flavors from bacon to the old HI-C flavor ecto-cooler. Not to mention they are super cheap, and have awesome customizations of your e-liquid. Vaping gets a little confusing, and there is a lot to take in at first with all the mods, devices, atomizers, cartomizers, clearomizers, atomizers drip tips and such. Sorry if I lost you already. The great part is you can wean yourself down from say, 24mg. of nicotine all the way down to 0mg. then after a while you may be still addicted to the oral fixation of vaping but, I guess technically not addicted to nicotine anymore. I have heard to many success stories to doubt the safety of these products, and the day I quit was the first day of the rest of my life. I feel great. Now to show you my setup... first I will inform you on the flavors I vape.
Honey crisp apple, Banana nut bread, whipped cream, freckled lemonade(strawberry lemonade), pink lemonade, moo juice(strawberry milk), wild cherry, georgia peach, coffee, cucumber mint, ecto cooler, plum, USA select(tobacco), vanilla, and fruity hoops(fruit loops). My favorites have to be moo juice, whipped cream, and freckled lemonade. I use a 50/50 pg/vg (propylene gycol/ vegetable glycerin) mix with 18mg of nicotine. Running at 9.5watts on an 18650 battery with an iclear 30. Here is a picture of my KGO with an iclear16, and my SVD with a kanger protank. Click for larger image
Sep 10 2013 12:00AM
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Wolffy
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just dab you pussies
Sep 10 2013 12:04AM
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Shredsterr
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Any disposable if you want to try one just to see what it's about. Blu's are expensive, I'd recommned this channel called RealVapeReview on YouTube, if you're interested in seeing some solid and comprehensive reviews of vaping products done by a funny chubby redneck named Dan. He recommends ECSmokes mainly. Don't know if they offer disposables.

Sep 10 2013 12:36AM
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uni-corn
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That is a damn nice setup.
Sep 10 2013 12:43AM
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snakerton
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Thanks for the input. I wouldnt say I'm addicted to cigarettes. I just like smoking whether its weed, cigar or cigarette. I think a ecig would be nice.
Sep 10 2013 12:54AM
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uni-corn
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I started out with a Kanger T3 on an eGo battery. Solid setup that you can get in to for ~$40-50.
Sep 10 2013 1:06AM
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daannnnieel
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you're actually fucking retarded, you would rather people quit using what method, patches and gum?

Fuck that, I actually quit smoking because of these things. So have numerous friends and a handful of family members, I am definitely all for e-cigs.
Sep 10 2013 1:09AM
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deleted5
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yeah I would, its a much safer alliterative than an e-cigs.
Sep 10 2013 1:21AM
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Finkle
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I have done quite a bit of research on the subject. The benefits outweigh the negatives. It's great for someone who still wants to still smoke something but not the harmful effects of a cig. Hands down the 4 ingredients in Eliquid are better then the 4,000 ingredients in a cigarette. That's not debatable. I am a recent type 1 diabetic and I had go quit smoking. I was up for hours doing research on vaping health concerns and the ecig industry as a whole. I would recommend it to anyone who is trying to quit.
Sep 10 2013 1:56AM
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GuacamoleMane
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well they still have nicotine and harmful chemicals in the vapor, unless you are using them to quit smoking its not a good idea
Sep 10 2013 6:30AM
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The-Kaizer
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I think they're kinda different here in the UK, but I used this one.
The filter is the battery which lasts for ages, and you can buy extra of the actual cigarette end and batteries.

They're pretty good, the only thing was, as I could smoke them inside, I found myself doing it a lot more than I smoked regularly, so I just went cold turkey. Which was really fucking hard. But three months later and I am going strong.
Sep 10 2013 9:38AM
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nkmo.
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Sources please.
Sep 10 2013 11:00AM
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introvert
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I have the Ego CE5 clearomizer with Ego-C battery. I love it.
Sep 10 2013 11:02AM
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daannnnieel
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Sure, it's safer, but while i'm actually quitting smoking and not getting pissed off from withdrawal symptoms, and I still get to smoke something and function completely normally. You, you'll have the worst time or your life for weeks, have fun with patch sickness.
Sep 10 2013 11:14AM
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nkmo.
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Its pretty killer for a cheap RBA. I paid around $10 for the atomizer and enough materials to build dozens of coils. I got it originally just to test flavors before I filled up a tank, but now I use it more when I'm out and about. With the right wick you can hold a pretty good amount of liquid.

Here's my actual setup:
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Sep 10 2013 11:20AM
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deleted5
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I'll give that to you, i don't smoke so i wouldn't know. I was just saying that from a heather stand point.
Sep 10 2013 2:42PM
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maxro
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I've often found myself wondering exactly how "safe" it is to inhale water vapor on a constant basis. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but I'll try to hold my tongue if there is a sudden spike in cases of pulmonary edema in this country.
Sep 10 2013 2:51PM
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