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Stept NO HELMET!?

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rememberscott
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Recently saw Mutiny and it was unreal. THEY. GO. BIG. And I didn't really think about it until afterwards. WHY THE HELL DON'T THEY WEAR HELMETS!? We all know the consequences for taking that big of a risk. What is the logic behind this? Is there any?

We all want to see you guys throw down, but no one wants to see another head injury.
Throw on a dome bucket. Please.
Aug 22 2013 3:03PM
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BWalmer
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Not that it's relevant because comparing skiers to skaters is a terrible comparison (what skiers do in urban settings is usually much larger than skaters except for a select few big rail/ledge skaters)...but Arto came DAMN close to making this statement false.

This thread comes out every year about this time, and it's always the same result, half the people say "it's their choice" and the other half say "they're fucking stupid"...the irony is, both halves are completely correct, is it stupid, yes, but it's also their choice. I'm 100% sure that every time anyone from Stept (or anyone skiing urban for that matter) preps for a rail they understand that they could get seriously injured hitting that feature, but they're willing to take that risk. Who knows what the reasoning is, but honestly, it's not our place to judge how others live their lives.
Aug 22 2013 7:28PM
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*SID*
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More risk = more excitement = more people want to watch. Some of the stuff they do is so big even if they did wear a helmet it wouldn't help. why the hell do skydivers wear helmets is my question.
Aug 22 2013 7:29PM
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bighit
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I agree. Wear a helmet. It's fucking stupid not to. Real fucking stupid.
Aug 22 2013 7:35PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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this is all really.

but for those of you who do other ExTrEmE sports, doesn't it feel like it's easier for you to hit your head while skiing? I just feel like with skis and ski boots on, it's a lot harder for me to control a fall and sometimes I just have to go with it. I never feel like that while skating (be it rollerblading, longboarding, and I can actually skateboard a little). I don't even get that feeling while surfing. Even though I let the wave take me i do it by choice and feel like I know exactly whats going on.

tl:dr - seems like it's easier tofall better in other action sports versus skiing/snowboarding.
Aug 22 2013 7:35PM
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rememberscott
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It matters because Stept is setting an example. They might have all the skill in the world and are able to avoid serious injuries most of the time, but they are who the next generation looks up to and all it takes is one fuck up.

And wearing a helmet doesn't make you confined, when you're soaring down the mountain you feel every bit of adrenaline and danger.

Aug 22 2013 7:40PM
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SKIU4EA
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I say fuck it, do what you want. "Live free or die."

But what kind of gets to me are kids that are eaasily influenced; believing that to be a respected urban segment, you should be showcasing your ability without a helmet.

I don't think any of us would want to see someone wreck themselves, flinging a sketchy 4 on to an urban 4 kink believing that ppl would think less of him if he had been wearing one.



Aug 22 2013 7:43PM
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snomaster
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this ended up being last post of 1st page (not a good place to be buried). anyone arguing to not wear helmets should listen to this story.

http://dannyisthebomb.com

On January 3rd, 2011 Danny Toumarkine took a horrible fall while snowboarding in Montana. Danny was care flighted to a local hospital where he spent the next 33 days. During his time at the hospital Danny underwent 4 brain surgeries as a result of impact trauma to the left side of his head. Danny is very lucky to be alive.

And besides, helmets are rad anyways. they help control goggle fogging, are warm, or can be very well ventilated. Personally, I would be dead if it weren't for wearing a helmet.
Aug 22 2013 7:48PM
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homestar
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Because it adds danger. For the same reason big mountain skiers ski lines right next to 200 foot cliffs that could easily kill them.

I wear a helmet but if they don't want to, I don't have a problem with that.
Aug 22 2013 7:52PM
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mikemurda
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the way i see it.....


1st. Helmets look like shit in the streets.

2nd. You guys don't know shit.

3rd. Fuck Newschoolers
Aug 22 2013 7:57PM
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White_raven
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I know a person who has a helmet and he is gay.
Aug 22 2013 7:59PM
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*SID*
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1st. Cares about looks over safety

2nd. Tells everyone they're wrong and knows he's right

3rd. Says newschoolers sucks but yet is posting and is online
Aug 22 2013 8:00PM
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DubV134
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So many concerned citizens here it's great to see and so motivating. Please, another 'what if' scenario or maybe a prediction about a particular individual dying.......

Aug 22 2013 8:04PM
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mikemurda
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1st. Cares about being LEGIT over being a pussy

2nd. You still don't know shit

3rd. newschoolers sucks cus of the stupid and dumb users that think they know shit when they don't
Aug 22 2013 8:07PM
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*SID*
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I swear i hope you're a troll..
Aug 22 2013 8:22PM
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casual
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This conversation is so fucking played out. How about this....do what you feel is best for you personally, and don't tell other grown men what is and isn't an acceptable risk for them. It literally has zero effect on you. Any rhetoric about being role models, setting an example etc. is fucking dumb. If you're looking to guys who are propelled into brick walls with a motorized winch for examples as to how to live your life, well...
Aug 22 2013 8:24PM
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Brule.
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I dunno about you guys, but I think I saw Cam Boll wear a helmet during the majority of his segment.
Aug 22 2013 8:25PM
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SFB
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wearing a helmet doesnt look as cool. its as simple as that.
Aug 22 2013 8:26PM
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mikemurda
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ahahah you are one of those dumb fucks



Aug 22 2013 8:26PM
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casey_cope
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yeah i think this is kind of a stupid arguement. admitted i always wear my helmet but its up to them. and besides it may also be about comfort. about the one time ive ever skied without a helmet it was one of the most comfortable things ever.
Aug 22 2013 8:26PM
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Brule.
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I wear my helmet most of the time, and right now I've been training to become an instructor at my home mountain. Whenever I have to shadow a ski lesson on the bunny hill I don't wear my helmet. Anywhere else that doesn't consist of me shadowing lessons on the bunny hill, you won't find me without my helmet on the mountain.
Aug 22 2013 8:33PM
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Afterbang.no
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Blame the protection gear industry for not sponsoring them with bucket's..  And blame Monster for giving stept hot secretaries.. I'll choose one of them leather monster girls over a redbull helmet any day!
Aug 22 2013 8:34PM
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TimeWasted
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I guess being steezy is worth more to these guys than avoiding an injury which could take them permanently out of the sport they love.
Oh the things we do to look cool, but no one really gives a fuck about the clothing you wear.
Aug 22 2013 8:45PM
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Dan-Man
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LOLO
Aug 22 2013 8:47PM
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t_rob
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That was 100% because of clayton being on monster.
Aug 22 2013 8:52PM
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Skibumsmith
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oh boy this debate again!
This is Tyler. Tyler was wearing a helmet. Tyler is still alive thanks to his helmet.
Click for larger image

Stept crew obviously doesn't give a shit. Hopefully none of them will ever have to pay the price.
Aug 22 2013 8:56PM
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coolflash8
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I was actually thinking about this a few.days ago. And was wondering how long it will be before a huge pro dies and everyone starts wearing a helmet
Aug 22 2013 9:03PM
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Karkoskier
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Though myself and most of you wouldn't make the same decision, we all have to agree they do in fact look badass and cooler with out helmets. That being said hopefully none of them crack their dome too hard in the future.
Aug 22 2013 9:14PM
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Kronor
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The one run I did this season I railed my head into a tree. I got a concussion and had headaches for five months(literally all day everyday) and they just finally went away this week. Throw dat shit on ya' dome. Not worth it at all.
Aug 22 2013 9:35PM
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jibcrew1
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but but joey had a helmet on in all of his shots
Aug 22 2013 9:41PM
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k-fred
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true but it doesnt matter anyway since we're talking about stept which is mostly urban.
Aug 22 2013 9:45PM
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crawley
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You sound like the worst kind of douche. If not wearing a helmet is why you enjoy stomping some shit it's time to reevaluate your shit
Aug 22 2013 9:56PM
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c0rkmanJones
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Rly not cool with no dome. Many of the helmets add some tight steeze.
Aug 22 2013 10:13PM
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Clebo1
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It is smart to wear a helmet.

Im not going to try to justify not wearing one because it wont be a very convincing argument... But lets get real here...

snowboarding is arguably a few years ahead of skiing in terms of street and film but almost all segments coming out have riders who dont wear helmets.

Lets face it, you look good stomping with one on, but without its like holy shit, these guys are good.

And to the idiot that said that the injury's they portray in the film are self inflicted due to this, get real. There was a blown knee and some shoulder and rib shots. that has nothing to due with a helmet


Stop sounding like a bunch of pussies
Aug 22 2013 10:18PM
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JordanClarke
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more badass
Aug 22 2013 10:19PM
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iLLbiLLy
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We should probably just make a law forcing everyone on skis to wear a helmet at all times. Also lets make backcountry skiing illegal because that's dangerous too.
Aug 22 2013 10:22PM
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Clebo1
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helmets dont stop concussions.... its the movement itself that fucks up your head...
Aug 22 2013 10:23PM
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caderobinson
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I mean its their choice not newschoolers so why should be flip shit about it. I do find ironic that they take so much time to show their injuries and stuff yet they cant wair a helmet. Although most of there injuries are neck down...
Aug 22 2013 10:25PM
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SDrvpr
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If you didn't grow up wearing helmets, they do make you feel really confined. Are the Stept guys in any way a good example on young folk, even if they did where helmets? No, they trespass, drink a lot (chucks seg for example), and smoke a lot of weed. They ski for their own enjoyment and not to be an example to you young whippersnappers. They make movies for the love of doing so, not to set an example. Anyways we really shouldn't give a fuck what other people do unless it causes direct harm to us. And if you don't wear a helmet just because you see your idol do it, that's just stupid. Any who, I'm done with this thread now because it's pointless. Now it's time to party :D Have a good night NS.
Aug 22 2013 10:27PM
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Amarino
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I'd much rather be alive than look stupid in the streets.
Aug 22 2013 10:40PM
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jordy19
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why do you guys care about their lives. they live how they wanna live? buck off will ya
Aug 22 2013 10:44PM
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miroz
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wat?
Aug 22 2013 10:48PM
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*ninja*
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this thread again r u fucking me op! its there life not yours.
Aug 22 2013 11:08PM
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caljo
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How bout fuck you. That's why.
Aug 22 2013 11:15PM
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Brule.
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That's because JoeJoe's smart enough to be safe. He knows that he doesn't want to die, but inspires the Stept crew while he's at it.
Aug 22 2013 11:17PM
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myllhouse
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If you wear a helmet technically it doesn't count
Aug 22 2013 11:26PM
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fredyferl
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Did Stept answered a question about that in their Q&A? I'd like to see what they think about wearing a helmet, obviously they don't seem to give a shit, and they haven't thought about the fact that they don't really set a good example for kids. I'm sure a lot of people don't want to wear helmets indirectly or unconsciously because of Stept, and I know a couple of people who were wearing helmets before while hitting urban and don't anymore and I find it quite stupid.

Remember: YOHOH - You Only Have One Head
Aug 22 2013 11:42PM
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-emile-
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Aug 22 2013 11:46PM
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cheaaaaaa
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We are highly influenceable people... weather you accept it or not, skiers are influenced by the trends of their peers. Why should we rationalize not wearing a helmet as ENTIRELY personal choice in a sport that is both highly dangerous and susceptible to trends.

If you choose to not war a helmet, so be it, but be sure your not making that decision without the bias of trends (aka being cool). On the other hand, I think its valuable to actively push the norm in the safer direction... lets make it odd not to wear a helmet in segments


Aug 22 2013 11:50PM
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