New Skis and Bindings Broken Need Help

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Aug 9 2013 6:11AM

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Hard to tell exactly from the photo but it looks like the tabs the brake attach too are fine. And the screw hole is fine as you actually have the part of the brake where the screw goes through still attached. So yeah you should just need new brakes. Best off taking them to a shop to do it though as they can check if anything is bent Nd needs realigning when they put the new ones on. Also it a very common thing to happen. Tea leasing when landing switch is never good for brakes.

Aug 9 2013 7:00AM

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Cheers tom, you're always helpful, I would give you karma but I already gave you 10/10 a long time ago. Sorry for the poor photos also.

Aug 9 2013 7:07AM

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No worries man. The photos are only small because I'm on my phone, but as I say they look good so don't worry. Goo luck getting it all sorted.

Aug 9 2013 7:36AM

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I'm not super familiar with those bindings. But can you remove the middle screw we see in the first picture (I'm not sure if it threads into the binding, or ski) carefully, and then take off what is left of the brake. Then check the rest of what's underneath there for cracks. Like Tom said the rest looks fine, and you likely just need a new brake.

Aug 9 2013 8:00AM

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You just need new breaks, should cost about $10-$15 at a shop that carries those bindings (you can try to find them online and just do it yourself, it's 1 screw, but then you might have to wait longer).

Brakes rip out of bindings all the time, doesn't really matter how big or small the feature is, it happens because of a release on a switch landing, the brake wasn't meant to stop the ski going backwards at that speed with that force applied to it.

Aug 9 2013 8:42AM

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Alright good news it was just the brakes which were broken the rest of the binding is fine.
The guy at the store said that the brakes weren't actually put on properly in the first place apparently the brakes hadn't been properly attached to the little hooks on the binding itself (you can see them on the pictures).

Cheers for all the help guys

Aug 10 2013 12:47AM

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Alright so I got my new brakes and they're fine, but tonight I went for a ski and was doing 540's again. On two occasions one of my bindings released (the heel piece popped up) as I touched down on the landing which sucked. Even though I landed the 5's pretty cleanly.

I'm thinking of tightening my DIN from 7 to 8 or 9. I'm 60kg and 170cm tall, would 8 DIN be too much for me? The bindings only release on big switch landings.

I'm also considering changing back to my old Look PX10's which I rode at 6 DIN only and they never had any release issues and just about always released when they needed to.

So please if you guys have any other suggestions or ideas let me know, I'm sick of eating shit because of losing a ski when it should have stayed on!

Aug 14 2013 5:02AM

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Before you do any din adjustments have the forward pressure checked. It's much more likly that it is set wrong. If you skied on bindings with less din before you should not have to go up that much on what is really a better binding. Did they check the setting when they fitted the new brakes?

Aug 14 2013 5:05AM

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Thanks tom, as far as I know all they did was replace the brakes for me. I guess I am going to have to go back to the shop again... Getting a little bit frustrated, also if the forward pressure is off will they have to remount the bindings or can it be adjusted without remounting the bindings?

Aug 14 2013 5:28AM

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Forward pressure is just set by adjusting the heel in the track so no need to remount. Make sure you take a boot with you as they will need that to adjust the bindings.

Aug 14 2013 6:03AM

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You need new bindings, not because their broke, because they are shit. The axium is not a good binding, do yourself a favor next time and get something made for freestyle. Btw your brakes im sure are to big. Probably the 90mm, which is to big for your ar7. Get a 80mm andbend just enenough to clear. That way when you eengage your binding the brake will tuck up and in.

Aug 14 2013 9:12AM

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And Tom, you gotta know that a px10/axial while lesser in din is a far better binding than the axium 12

Aug 14 2013 9:16AM

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Did not realise he had px before but still should not be a huge issue. Yes the px are better but at this level either should be fine. And he does not want an 80mm brake. 90 is perfect for those skis.

Op go get the forward pressure checked and if you are still having issues you could always get the px's mounted in the same holes.

Aug 14 2013 9:34AM

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I had a look at my forward pressure, there is a little indicator on the heel piece. I clicked my boots into both bindings and saw the line was just about in the middle on both which means the forward pressure is fine (I think). I'm not sure what I should do now, should I just take them to the shop and let them have a look or should I increase the DIN or just switch back to my old PX10's?

Aug 15 2013 4:12AM

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Idk bro thats up to you. I would crank my din up a bit and go ski. I cant rremember but doesn't the axium/axial use the same hole pattern.
I still feel that a 85 mm waisted ski shouldn't use a 90 mm brake, if the user skis switch. If your brake sticks out, even a little, its going to get fucked.

Aug 16 2013 9:11AM

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It the same hole pattern yes so you could swap but maybe try adjusted the din slightly. Don't go more then 1 setting at a time. 90 brake woul be better then 80 too. It's only 2.5 mm bigger each side so spot on. They will tuck up on top when engaged. If you were to use a 80 mm then you woul have to bend them so when the brake go up they would actually stick out more as they would be bent.

Aug 16 2013 9:33AM

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Idk...maybe Tom. But he's right, go slow with din. A few small crashes getting it right is better than one big one when its wrong.

Btw does your toe have the spring loaded afd, it slides back and forth for lateral toe release. Because i had big problems with them in my youth, actually super glued it so it wouldn't move. Then I got real bindings.

Aug 16 2013 2:32PM

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Thanks for the help guys, haven't managed to get to the shop yet but the 90mm brake is just fine. It doesn't stick out at all, I ski switch quite a lot and they haven't caught once or anything so I think the 90mm brake is just fine.
I'll probably just put the DIN up to 8 and then if that doesn't fix it then I'll put my PX 10's on or I was also thinking about buying the Head Mojo 15's (I saw a thread about them) it will only cost me $130 NZD (including shipping), what are your thoughts on those?

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