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How should I deal with this possible scammer on NS?

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TimeWasted
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Sorry for the huge block of text you are about to read but +K to anyone who actually takes the time to read and give an honest response.

Hey NS, I need your advice on how to tread in this particular situation I'm in. So here's the backstory; I bought a pair of skis from a guy here for 220 and sent the cash via PayPal. The guy was unable to ship the item with USPS since it was oversized so he gave me a refund, BUT there was a catch. He claimed to have already spent $60, so he could only return 150. This was a major red flag in my head since although he claimed he would return the rest of my money asap, I was in disbelief. To add to the sketchyness, he claimed to be leaving the country for a while and would return my cash when he got back. To summarize so far, the dude returned $150 out of the original $210, and $60 is still missing. So since I sent the money using the "Paying for Items" on PayPal, I was covered by buyer protection and I issued a dispute against the guy. As I thought, there was no response from the guy and PayPal ended up deciding the case in my favor. Here's where my dilemma comes into play. So when the guy returned the $150, it wasn't as a refund of the original $210, it was as a payment, so when PayPal decided the case in my favor, they gave me $210 instead of the $60 I was missing. So pretty much I now have $150 of the sellers money, or maybe it's PayPal crediting me $210 since the guy claimed to not have a Credit Card hooked up with his Paypal. Anyway, should I keep this $150 or reach out to the seller and ask him whats up. He never responded to any of my messages after he told me he would get me the $60 back, and he never made any kind of contact with PayPal when the dispute was brought up. If the dude was just out to scam $60 out of me, I have no problem with keeping his $150 since it will hopefully teach him a lesson, but if it was an honest mistake, I'll return the cash. What do you guys think.

Again, sorry for the fatass block of text.
Aug 8 2013 8:21PM
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Petey.
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If you knew it was a block of text before you posted it, why didn't you just add in line breaks? Now nobody is going to read your post.
Aug 8 2013 8:24PM
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TimeWasted
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Because not everyone on NS is a lazy ass 16 year old whose brain boils when they have to read something that isn't "Full Tilts For Sale". I don't want some ignorant teenager answering this genuine question, I'd much rather have an adult with some perspective who can provide an honest answer.
Aug 8 2013 8:28PM
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JAHpow
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That's a tough one. I guess I'd still try to get a hold of him to try to resolve everything. I wouldn't tell him about the extra $150 or whatever it was that might be his because he might just say it is his when it might not be. Let him bring that up if it's actually true, because if it is true that it's his then he would know already. That is if he checks his account.

Hopefully that made sense.
Aug 8 2013 8:34PM
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.squirrely.
Posts: 7563 - Karma: 7,546
whats his username? find kids in his area to harass him in person or on facebook or twitter or whatever
Aug 8 2013 8:37PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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i mean if he's on NS and sees this thread...
Aug 8 2013 8:37PM
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Mag
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TL;DR

OP paid 210$ for skis
seller didn't ship & refunded 150$(claimed to have already spent 60$)
OP filed dispute after not receiving other 60$ when seller left country
buyer got the full 210$ instead of the 60$, resulting in seller losing 150$, and OP profiting 150$

OP is wondering if s/he should return/keep the 150$




@OP in this situation, you're the scammer, return the 150$, you have to assume he was planning on giving you your 60$ back, and even if it turns out he wasn't planning on giving it back you can't "teach him a lesson", what you're doing is illegal no matter what, and based on a possible assumption.
Aug 8 2013 8:38PM
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Ye_ol_wild_Koala
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Are you fucking retarded?

You got screwed, so be a nice guy?!?! where is the jackie chan WTF face pic???
Aug 8 2013 8:40PM
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TimeWasted
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Is it possible that PayPal was the one who returned the $210 as part of their buyer protection thingy? When I first told him I would be filing a claim, he said that there was no Card hooked up to his account, and therefore PayPal wouldn't return anything when the case was over.
Aug 8 2013 8:40PM
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Spagett+
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HahHaha good one. You are on the wrong site idiot. all I want to see are some big ol full Tilts and a few posts with tits.
Aug 8 2013 8:40PM
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TimeWasted
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Well I'm not trying to screw someone over and steal $150 from them if it truly was an honest mistake. If the dude never contacts me about the $150, then I'll assume he was out to scam and I'll keep the cash I guess.
Aug 8 2013 8:42PM
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Mag
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Paypal very rarely loses money AFAIK, if they're not getting the money from him, I'm not sure they'll give it to you, if he ends up with a negative paypal balance and he has any information/they know where he lives/who he is he's fucked and losing that, & most likely a fee.




You should have sorted out shipping in advance, and possibly used an alternative method when you realized it didn't work, rather than refunding.
Aug 8 2013 8:43PM
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pj21
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Step 1: Cut up 1 hundred and fifty dollars and return to seller in envelope..
Step 2: Obtain golf club.
Step 3: swing towards in a downward motion at a velocity of 1 million Kph at sellers knee's.
Step 4: Watch as kneecap shatters.
Step 5: Smile :)
Aug 8 2013 8:46PM
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TimeWasted
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Well I guess I'll just wait for him to contact me. I went on his NS profile a few times in the last few days and it said he was online, so he could have contacted me at any time since he "got back from his trip". I'm sure the guy knows that there was a dispute and that it was settled in my favor, since the guy probably got the same emails from Paypal that I did.
Aug 8 2013 8:47PM
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JakeAssBeatClap
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I'm an adult and i hate reading blocks of text, how hard is it to press enter every 4 lines?

as for your situation sounds like you got ripped off. Sorry boutcha.
Aug 8 2013 8:48PM
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TimeWasted
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Well not really ripped off since I currently have a free $150 in my bank account lol.
Aug 8 2013 8:51PM
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.squirrely.
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and if all else fails then tell his mom
Aug 8 2013 8:52PM
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KimJong-Illest
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I'd say just dont say anything about it untill he does incase it isn't his so he doesn't just say it is and try and scam your for more.
Aug 8 2013 8:54PM
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CaptainObvious.
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You contact him, tell him you have his money and will keep it on hold for 14 days. If, at the end of 14 days, you haven't heard anything, the money will not be recoup-able.

Don't be an asshole. Don't be a money-mule.
Aug 8 2013 9:36PM
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deleted5
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keep it, if he never asks for it back who cares.
Aug 8 2013 9:53PM
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7-3instacall
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hey dipshit,
he meant you should do paragraphs so we dont reread the same line twice
Aug 9 2013 12:52AM
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TimeWasted
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God forbid you have to waste 3 seconds of your life accidently re-reading a line.
Aug 9 2013 1:32AM
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Nieds
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Keep the money. /thread
Aug 9 2013 1:36AM
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DizzyG
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Wow, that is not what I expected to read.

I'd say just sit on it, plan on returning it but see what the guy does first. If you keep it then you're in the wrong though so definitely return it after a while or if he contacts you.
Aug 9 2013 1:55AM
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HolySchimmel
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Well I would wait and see if he contacts you. If he does, give him back the money. Everyone notices if they are just missing 150$, especially if he said he doesn't have the rest of your 210$ in the first place.
If he doesn't contact you, I would just keep it and be happy assuming you didn't hurt anyone who can't handle it.
Aug 9 2013 2:01AM
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geosom
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sue the ass of s/he
Aug 9 2013 4:32AM
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-emile-
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reading this thread = your username
Aug 9 2013 5:06AM
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theblackrod
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I would probably keep it. He never intended to give you the money back it sounds. And he obviously had $0 to his name before he sold the skis or he wouldn't have spent your $$ without having already shipped the skis.
Aug 9 2013 8:46AM
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skiierman
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um... uh...

use the money to buy a pair of skis that you never got in the first place?

Fucking kids... just no brains these days.
Aug 9 2013 8:53AM
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Mag
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When people refer to themselves in the 3rd person...
Aug 9 2013 9:01AM
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iH8pow
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idk why you're asking us, sounds like you need to talk to paypal if you want to make it right. I'm guessing it's Paypal's money under their buyer protection policy.

You COULD just keep it, but I'd give them a call and get to the bottom of it first. Otherwise, Paypal might figure something out at some point and come after you for that money back, better to get it resolved now than later when you might not have $150 to lose
Aug 9 2013 11:21AM
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iFlip
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Legit thread. I would keep the money, but keep it available for three months. It is absolutely wrong of the guy to run off with $60 of your money, which is what he did. As far as not being able to afford to repay you the $60, I'm sorry, but he is leaving the country. If he has money to leave the country he obviously has the money to pay you back. You had to go to the trouble of entering a case against him, going without YOUR money for a time, etc. If he begs and grovels sufficiently to you within three months, return $125 of the $150. Keep the $25 for your trouble and refer him to this thread. That's pretty low what he did, and he got what was coming to him. Ignorance isn't always free.
Aug 9 2013 12:15PM
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Static
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keep the money, if he asks about it tell him you spent it and are leaving the country
Aug 9 2013 12:34PM
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Kazabazua
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I do advertising layout design and can tell you that nobody likes reading a big block of text. The more space in between lines and letters makes things easier to read.

I'd keep the money until you hear something from the seller, he's got your contact info right?
Aug 9 2013 12:53PM
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