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How To Tune Skis. 8 Part Series. Very Comprehensive.

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DominatorJacques
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I am posting this for those who really want good info on how to do a proper tune.  The series is long, but if you really want to get the most from a pair of skis, the tune is critical. 

If you want to learn, you need to watch all 8 parts in their entirety.  If you skip any at all, you will not learn anything.  A good amount of what you will learn is in the talking.  You will need to listen well. 

Please don't even bother to leave a comment until you have spent the time to watch and LISTEN to all 8 videos.

Any comments or questions should be asked on the YouTube as I will then get a notice and be able to answer in a timely fashion.

Here is the link to the playlist:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNqXz9jTNg8&feature=share&list=SPADABC267A2F54961

Thank you, Jacques

Jul 20 2013 11:23AM
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Skibumsmith
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Thanks for posting this Jacques. Anybody can take their skis to a shop and pay $60 for a kid to run their ski through a Wintersteiger machine, but being able to do a good hand tune is a valuable skill for any ski bum.
Jul 20 2013 7:00PM
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robotdna
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This looks promising. Even though I can tune my skis I'll think I'll watch this as a refresher. Thanks!
Jul 20 2013 7:02PM
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robotdna
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Whoa whoa....this is for a NEW ski, tuning for NEW skis is different than NON-NEW skis. Keep this i mind.

Probably a lot of the techniques can be transferred over though.
Jul 20 2013 7:03PM
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robotdna
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Sorry for triple post...but:

The guy in the video is you, Jacques. Cool.
Jul 20 2013 7:10PM
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DominatorJacques
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Tuning a used ski can be much harder as the edges will or can become work hardened.  When that is the case, one must work over the edges with a course diamond stone first.  If not, no matter how sharp the file is, it will not cut.  Another option is to use silicon carbide sand paper backed up to a file to break through the hardened edges.  Also a used ski may be really railed.  Then one needs to base bevel well into the plastic base.  Then use a sharp metal scraper to shave the base back down to the edges.  With a sintered old dry base, this shaving of the base will "renew" it just like a grind.  Now wax will be able to penatrate the base once again.  Bla bla bla.   Thanks for that comment.
Jul 20 2013 11:35PM
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DominatorJacques
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Yes it is me.  the one and only onesie guy from Bachelor.  Same as the guy who videos all takers in park at Bachelor on any given day.  I think many people who want to progress don't know how important a true tune is to their progressing.  Park or pure carving, it really important.  I NEVER detune any part of a modern ski.  Many tips and tails are already tapered, so never detune.  As for park rails and boxes the 2 degree base bevel will work really good for not catching.  Nothing will stop rail bang, but that is mostly the under foot part that gets hammered.  The tips and tails can still have a good edge, thus providing some bite to make a carve.  The best can carve into a jump.   Bla bla bla.
Jul 20 2013 11:45PM
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DominatorJacques
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As you can see, I will answer questions here.  No problem.  I will check back from time to time here on NS.  That being said, feel free to ask anything on YouTube as well.

One question leads to another.  That is good because that way people can learn about how it really is. 

Even though my series is comprehensive, there is much more to learn.  Thank for the comments so far.

Jul 20 2013 11:57PM
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No.Quarter
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hopefully this embed will work. good job Jaques

















Jul 21 2013 12:10AM
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papermache
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threads
Jul 21 2013 2:58AM
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*DUMBCAN*
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threadz
Jul 21 2013 7:04AM
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DominatorJacques
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Nice Jake.  Last time I tried an embed to came out bad.  Only part of the screen showed.  Thanks.
Jul 21 2013 9:41AM
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Holte
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I just watched the entire thing, and NOT ONCE is a beer consumed. Clearly flawed.
Jul 21 2013 2:04PM
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DominatorJacques
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The fact is I thought it better not to show that part!  Colorado Kool-aid is my favorite. Adolph is my hero!
Jul 21 2013 3:55PM
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Wolfgang.
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This is legit. Thanks, I needed this.
Jul 21 2013 5:08PM
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DominatorJacques
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Thanks Champ.  Tools will cost you some money.  Files and stones don't last forever etc. 

The money you spend will be worth every penny in time, so if you plan to ski for years, it's the best investment you will ever purchase.  Not to dis anyone who runs a machine, but the fact is a machine can DESTROY a ski so bad, the it will never be worth a darn again.  I've seen it many times.  Many times I have spent hours to re-true a ski that has been throug a machine. 

Maybe I should post my list of "How To NOT Tune Skis"

Or just go here:  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0CC7E0534EE70ADB

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Jul 21 2013 5:45PM
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DominatorJacques
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The "other" reason I posted this thread is because I did not find any tuning stuff here.  (Maybe I'm lame)  I still say it will help all those who might need it.
Jul 22 2013 9:00PM
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profa_212
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Sticky?
Jul 22 2013 10:21PM
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robotdna
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Sticky in Gear Talk maybe. Maybe.
Jul 22 2013 10:33PM
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profa_212
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That's what I was thinking
Jul 22 2013 10:35PM
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DominatorJacques
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Stick it to me.  I'll answer questions anytime to help others. 

Jul 23 2013 12:49AM
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mstevo
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threads because this is really important
Jul 23 2013 1:46AM
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DominatorJacques
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Thanks Mesht.  Coming from you that make me feel good.

I will take this opportunity to post another link to more of my ski tuning videos.

 <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/videoseries?list=PL1479FD12BBD494E2" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Jul 23 2013 6:52PM
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DominatorJacques
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Oh shoot, that did not work.

Here is the proper link :  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1479FD12BBD494E2

Jul 23 2013 6:55PM
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DominatorJacques
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Okay, I know the tuning series of videos is really long, but you can't learn from a two minute video like you can from these videos.  Again one needs to watch and listen to all 8 parts to learn how I do it.

If you like these videos please share them with your friends.   There is no money in it for me.  As you will notice there are no ads!   I just want to share what has taken me a great deal of time to learn to help others.  Thanks, Jacques

Yes, I'm posting this comment to try to get some interest in the thread.  The threads go by real fast.

Jul 25 2013 3:34PM
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DominatorJacques
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Time to think about getting you new and used skis in shape!

Maybe I need to make a Park Tune video! Be good all.
Oct 3 2015 9:26PM
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DominatorJacques
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It's that time again for the northern hemisphere. If you want to learn how to tune your own stuff here I'll show you how. Bump because it's important. Base bevel may be the most important factor for a rail, tube, box rider etc. See that on part 5.
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