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Trouble with back switch ups?

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Zone
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Does anyone else slide off a rail when doing a back swap? If so, any tips on how to stay on the rail?
Jul 17 2013 8:06PM
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tcurle
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Jul 17 2013 8:13PM
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Miomo
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Jul 17 2013 8:19PM
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JahJahBinks
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You're probably letting your momentum take you too far because it's uncomfortable when learning blind swaps. Look at the end of the rail, be completely horizontal on the rail, grip, spin, and practice until you find something that works. Shitty advice probably, but whatever
Jul 17 2013 8:26PM
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BWalmer
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My "trick" for back swaps (at least while learning them) is to have your right hand (assuming you slide right foot forward) dropped back slightly behind you before your get on the rail (so on the approach...kinda like you're gonna 270 on, but not quite as far) and then when you get on the rail continue bringing your arm around and just as it crosses infront of you jump up and complete the turn, this will keep you centered over the rail. Using a front toe dip scissor (like for a back 270 out) also helps, combining these two things together can lead to a smooth, more controlled back swap which will help keep you on the rail and can help with combos after you get used to them (since you can do them sooner you can set your edge easier for combos). Finally, practice sliding opposite foot forward....it can be a HUGE help.
Jul 17 2013 8:26PM
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Zone
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word. thanks for the advice, i'll try it tomorrow!
Jul 17 2013 8:28PM
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wasatch_rat
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this if you wanna really think it through. lip on surface swap on boxes also helps you get the motion smooth.
Jul 17 2013 10:27PM
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CrotchKiller
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To put it simply, lock on before you initiate the switch up. It sounds like you're not locking completely
Jul 17 2013 11:18PM
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Thawg
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or you can keep doing what you're doing but just sit back and get it blunted, that's what I did when I learned it, but I learned how to do it at the end of this past season(literally the last day). So I haven't gotten to experiment with it yet, but what those other guys are telling you to do sounds good.
Jul 19 2013 12:33AM
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ESB
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You're probably letting your spin on the switch-up carry you off the side of the rail. Think about completing that 180-degree spin while still traveling in the same line down the rail. You might have to alter the way that you set your swap so it doesn't set you to one side or the other.
Jul 19 2013 3:00PM
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smelllllllllly
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whats a back switch up?

Jul 21 2013 3:25PM
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Crispy.
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Assuming you know what a switch up is...
doing a switch up spinning back towards the beginning of the rail. If you were to stand after the rail and watch someone doing a back switch up you would see their back first, opposed to a front switch up where you'd see their torso.
Jul 21 2013 3:32PM
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Wolfgang.
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Make sure to spot the end of the rail as you come on.
Jul 21 2013 4:59PM
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smelllllllllly
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so like a backflip on a rail?
Jul 21 2013 5:58PM
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WVskiing
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I always through on the rail like I am doing a slow 3 and then just jump in the middle and follow through
Jul 21 2013 6:29PM
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Crispy.
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Basically
Jul 21 2013 6:55PM
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