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T3i VS 60D

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FatWhore
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What are the differences? I might be willing to sell my T3i and spend the extra to upgrade if theres anything major. Would it be worth it?
Jul 9 2013 7:41PM
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eheath
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Photo or video?


They are identical for video.
Jul 9 2013 7:45PM
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Laurent.
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60D, top LCD looks so much more pro.

But really it comes down what you want out of a camera.

60D is heavier, but weather sealed (please do not take it in a torrential downpour do), has a bigger battery, more control wheels, shoots a bit faster, has a bigger buffer and is a bit beefier.

In terms of video/image quality the difference is moot.
Jul 9 2013 9:13PM
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Forcillo
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As previously stated, the 60D is much more weather sealed and it feels a lot better in your hand, and it shoots faster for photos. In terms of quality there is zero difference. You're paying for the control wheel/top LCD and a better feel.
Jul 9 2013 9:49PM
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Laurent.
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That's personal preference.
Jul 9 2013 9:52PM
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No.Quarter
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I was just about to ask the same question regarding weather sealing.

So the camera itself is weather-sealed, but what about the lens? What would I have to be careful about?

What is the difference mechanically between the t3i and 60d in regard to weather-sealing? What does the 60d have that the t3i doesn't?
Jul 10 2013 12:26AM
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CheddarJack
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I believe the T3i has mainly plastic parts whereas the 60D has alloy-based which is more durable and makes tighter seals. I forget exactly what the alloy is (or even if it's technically an "alloy"), but I remember the guy I bought my T3i from at my local camera store told me something along those lines.
Jul 10 2013 12:41AM
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Laurent.
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A number of Canon "L" series lenses are specially weather sealed, using 'O'-rings and gaskets to keep out water and dust. This doesn't mean that they are weather or waterproof. Do note that these lenses are at the more expensive end of the spectrum.

In general, whenever possible, you should shield your camera and lens from rain. You can buy special "rainhoods" for longer lenses and you can always use a plastic bag with suitable holes cut in it. (Which is what I do.)



As far as the body goes:

The T3i has relatively strong construction of a stainless steel frame with polycarbonate body. The 60D is Polycarbonate resin with glass fibre on aluminum chassis.

As far as the T3i, it doesn't have weather sealing, that doesn't mean a drop of water will kill it, because manufacturing tolerances are small and the panels fit close together but it wasn't designed to repel the rain. The 60D was designed with weather sealing in mind, look at these gorgeous diagrams:

It's hard to see both colors of sealing in some shots, so look closely. Green = tight metal to metal (plastic to plastic) and red is actual "rubberized" seals.

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Jul 10 2013 1:01AM
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FatWhore
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Its for video mostly. But I seems like it might be worth it imo.
Jul 10 2013 4:57PM
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eheath
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For what possible reasons??
Jul 10 2013 4:58PM
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FatWhore
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some kid wants to buy my t3i with kit lens for $600 so im mine as well upgrade for free
Jul 10 2013 5:49PM
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eheath
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But then you lose your kit lens, do you have another in that range?
Jul 10 2013 5:51PM
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FatWhore
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Tamron 17-50, and I got a Tokina 11-16. my kit lens is going to waste anyways
Jul 10 2013 5:59PM
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eheath
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Well, sounds like a good deal to me then.
Jul 10 2013 6:13PM
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Forcillo
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Well he is retarded.

But good for you
Jul 10 2013 8:47PM
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b_r_tregs
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I'm no expert but if your thinking of upgrading and staying with canon you might want to look at the 7D because of how well it performs it low light, but I could be wrong.
Jul 10 2013 11:15PM
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FatWhore
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Im only getting the 60D because it will cost me nearly nothing, the 70D will cost me hundreds
Jul 12 2013 1:22PM
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The-RZA-Of-Ski
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Since the t3i isn't weatherproof, is recommended to avoid shooting in snow storm ? will it fuck up ?
Jul 31 2013 12:03AM
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Forcillo
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If its truly a snow STORM then you may have some issues, but a mild flurry would be no problem. I know people whose rebels have been fine through nor'easters, and I also know of some that have died because of some mild snowfall. It all depends on what you're willing to risk in terms of your camera to get shots.
Jul 31 2013 12:14AM
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JuliusJ
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What? Yes, you are wrong, the 7D blows in low light. At very least, it doesn't perform any better than the 60D. It is a photo monster, but he wants it for video.
Jul 31 2013 4:30AM
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JuliusJ
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What? Yes, you are wrong, the 7D blows in low light. At very least, it doesn't perform any better than the 60D. It is a photo monster, but he wants it for video.
Jul 31 2013 4:30AM
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Laurent.
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Quoting myself:

As far as the T3i, it doesn't have weather sealing, that doesn't mean a drop of water will kill it, because manufacturing tolerances are small and the panels fit close together but it wasn't designed to repel the rain.

So I would be rather careful in a snowstorm.
Jul 31 2013 6:41AM
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Mag
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Meh, I dropped my 550d in a foot of powder one time, took me about 5 minutes to find it and it was fine. Everything was covered in snow but once it melted it came out fine. Probably isn't a good idea, but I've taken it out in snowstorms fine.
Jul 31 2013 9:27AM
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Laurent.
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One of my friends once dropped his 7D in the powder and it died. (Water damage according to repair centre) despite the weather sealing. Anecdotal evidence says very little.

Considering the fact the the Rebel line-up isn't weather sealed I would still be careful. Yes it will probably hold up due to the incredibly tight tolerances with which camera's these days are made but there's no real guarantee.
Jul 31 2013 9:40AM
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ColinB
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the T3i, 60D, and 7D are all virtually identical in video performance. You really don't see an increase in lowlight performance until you jump to a full frame camera or a cinema camera. Within the crop sensor range, its really not worth spending the extra money on the 7D as it has virtually the same video capabilities as the 60D and t3i.

that being said, if you really really really want the lowlight capabilities, the 6D is the new less expensive full frame option.. though still $2000 for the body alone. (don't quote me on this but I believe it has the same sensor as the 5DmkIII)

But yeah, if you're not going to be paying a whole lot for the 60D after you sell the t3i, then its a great deal. you'd get the weather sealing for next to no money. I say jump on that opportunity
Jul 31 2013 10:43AM
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RawrRawrRob
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99% sure they have the same sensor
Jul 31 2013 11:05AM
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Laurent.
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Nope and the clue here is the size of the sensor, the 5D Mark II and Mark III have a 36 x 24mm sensor the 6D has a 35.8 x 23.9mm. sensor. And because the 6D has roughly 2 megapixels less then the 5D MIII, the actual pixels are bigger.

Performance is roughly the same and the sensor are most likely based on the same architecture, but just not the exact same.
Jul 31 2013 11:31AM
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