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Westboro baptist church

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BChaps1209
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look i hate these people and i think everything they say is bullshit and fucking horrible, but i dont get how someone religious can argue with them. they seem to just follow the bible word for word and its easy to disagree with them from an atheist standpoint (why fucking follow a book written thousands of years ago) but can someone religious post a reasonable argument for why their interpretation of the bible should be followed rather than the westboro baptists?
Jun 26 2013 10:30PM
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MilaKunis
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Same reason of calm Muslims and extremists.

/thread
Jun 26 2013 10:32PM
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edai
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1. God's not real.
2. The Bible is just the worlds oldest comic book.
3. It's fictional.
4. The Westboro Church may be somewhat loopy, but their ideas are justified.
Jun 26 2013 10:33PM
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Heart
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At least they stick to their guns instead of pick and choosing what they'll follow from the Bible. that's more than many Christians can say.
Jun 26 2013 10:46PM
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roddy116
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their statements are hypocrytical (godhatesfags and all that) not because homosexuality and everything, but saying that god hates a group of people.

also religion is significantly more logical than atheism.
Jun 26 2013 10:50PM
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BChaps1209
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yeah i mean they're horrible picketing funerals and shit but it almost seems better than people who are like yeah ill follow the stuff i feel like following.
Jun 26 2013 10:51PM
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987321654hgfd
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I would love them to come protest at my funeral. Just more publicity for me.
Jun 26 2013 10:53PM
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BChaps1209
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... seriously
Jun 26 2013 10:56PM
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--ski--
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Elaborate?
Jun 26 2013 10:56PM
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youngdtay
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I almost feel like they're potentially just a bunch of lawyers looking to make money in a very scummy way, and don't believe in what they're actually doing. I mean, they're just waiting for people to put their hands on them so they can sue the fuck out of them, and then cashout once they got stacks. Anyone catch my drift?
Jun 26 2013 10:57PM
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saxon
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relevant...?


Jun 26 2013 10:58PM
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Skavengers303
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1. just because you are religious doesn't mean you take the bible literally word for word. (discrepancies between the gospels kind of show that the stories went through the telephone game before being written down)

2. protesting a dead soldiers funeral because you think that his death was justified by god because of gay marriage is just ridiculous and has hardly any connection to christian faith
Jun 26 2013 11:18PM
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deleted5
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Aaa here he comes I cannot believe how easy it was for your parents to brainwash you growing up.
Jun 26 2013 11:21PM
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roddy116
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assuming that you believe in the big bang, it makes no sense for something to come from nothing. something had to be there to create that gas particles or whatever you people think started this all. I find my answer to be God- most logical explanation.
Jun 26 2013 11:29PM
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roddy116
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who said my parents raised me christian?
Jun 26 2013 11:30PM
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MilaKunis
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Yeah I think deism is the most realistic situation. God created the earth and let it run itself through Darwinism and natural laws. The way I see it the universe isn't an atom smasher.
Jun 26 2013 11:36PM
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BChaps1209
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the big bang theory doesn't state that something came from nothing
Jun 26 2013 11:37PM
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Bogs
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op's point is that Christian's and the WBC both interpret the bible, they just do so in different ways, and it's impossible to say with any kind of certainty which group is "right" and which is "wrong," yet people constantly talk about how the members of the WBC aren't "real" Christians and all that
Jun 26 2013 11:39PM
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.frenchy
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Does every kid on NS say this?


This post will get to -14 downvotes.
Jun 26 2013 11:40PM
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turducken
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If something can't come from nothing, where did God come from?
Jun 26 2013 11:40PM
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roddy116
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neither did I?
Jun 26 2013 11:41PM
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roddy116
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you fail to comprehend religious understanding of god.

basically he is the creator, he was there before everything.

who knows maybe were just a bunch of marbles like in MIB.
Jun 26 2013 11:45PM
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Joebin
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Judging people is a sin, WBC saying people are going to hell, God hates them and loves when they are dead is judgement.

Matthew 7:1
Do not judge, or you too will be judged

They treat people like shit, lets be honest and lets not forget the golden rule.

Mathew 7:12
So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets

Really all I have right now, Im not going to dig around more bible websites to find verses to prove a point everyone already knows.
Jun 26 2013 11:48PM
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turducken
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No, I do not fail at comprehending anything; you do.

You cannot apply one set reasoning to one idea, yet ignore it for another idea. That is confirmation bias, and that is illogical.
Jun 26 2013 11:54PM
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MilaKunis
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God was there first. That was the beginning.
Jun 26 2013 11:58PM
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Joebin
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This has to be the most smug, self righteous statement I have ever read on NS. Have fun with your internet argument!
Jun 27 2013 12:01AM
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turducken
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"You can't get to a time before the big bang because there was no before the big bang. We have finally found something that doesn't have a cause because there was no time for a cause to exist in. For me, this means there is no possibility of a Creator because there is no time for a Creator to have existed." -- Stephen Hawking.
Jun 27 2013 12:02AM
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MilaKunis
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Even though he is infinitley smarter than me, my hypothesis is just as accurate as his is.
Jun 27 2013 12:07AM
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roddy116
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lol alright dude keep bsing your way through this and pm me when you find a half assed statement.
Jun 27 2013 12:07AM
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IDMT_BC024
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You really don't understand the big bang theory at all.
And your statement shows that there's a good chance that you don't understand science in general, what it's goals are, and how it actually works. I'm not hating, most non- scientists have a very skewed idea of what science at its most basic level actually is. The media's fucked up portrayal of scientific discovery doesn't help either.

Jun 27 2013 12:09AM
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roddy116
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he fails to understand that god is out of time, and that time is an illusion created by humans.

again failing to grasp the christian understanding of what God is.
Jun 27 2013 12:10AM
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turducken
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Really? That's the response you're using. You stated that I "fail to comprehend religious understanding of god", yet you say I'm making half assed statements. A little hypocritical, is it not?
Jun 27 2013 12:12AM
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roddy116
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in what way?
Jun 27 2013 12:12AM
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crendor
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fuck them.... they should be considered a terrorist organization. they have a telephone number and ill try to find it so yall can troll them.
Jun 27 2013 12:13AM
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*TURBONERD*
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Time is a fucking dimension.
Jun 27 2013 12:18AM
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bfulmer
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These people are the worst kind of fucking scum on this earth. Anyone saying that they can sympathize with any of their values seriously needs to reconsider their own.

Someone needs to step up and fucking kill the adults who are responsible for messing up that entire family, and creating so much hatred.

Fuck
Jun 27 2013 12:20AM
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turducken
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"you fail to comprehend religious understanding of god. basically he is the creator, he was there before everything."

"he fails to understand that god is out of time, and that time is an illusion created by humans."

Two statements made by you, based on conjecture. The second part of the second statement "time is an illusion created by humans" is actually inaccurate.

So don't used "half assed statements" as an excuse.
Jun 27 2013 12:27AM
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whoa-dere
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gods not real.
Jun 27 2013 12:33AM
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Tinga
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not this shit again.
Jun 27 2013 12:37AM
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Byron_tha_gr8
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No. It could have just been there forever. And with your god logic, where is he from? Remember it makes no sense for something to come from nothing
Jun 27 2013 12:40AM
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roddy116
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again failing to comprehend what God is. He is the creator we are he because of him.
Jun 27 2013 1:12AM
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chicken
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please be trolling.
Jun 27 2013 1:19AM
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youngdtay
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That doesn't answer anything.
Jun 27 2013 1:20AM
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thenightman
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They do not necessarily believe what they are saying. Many of the higher ranking members of the church have law degrees. Because of this they know how far they are able to push what they are saying without getting in trouble. They make money by pushing the law so far that law enforcement/civilians react them. They then sue whoever attacked them to make money.

I think the Westboro church is fucking awful, but they aren't as stupid as they look.
Jun 27 2013 1:29AM
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Byron_tha_gr8
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Why should i believe that god has always existed and not that the universe has always existed? The simpler option is the universe.
Jun 27 2013 1:33AM
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roddy116
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because that is logically impossible?
Jun 27 2013 1:35AM
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whoa-dere
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You are slow
Jun 27 2013 1:40AM
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roddy116
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how?
Jun 27 2013 1:41AM
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whoa-dere
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You said it's "logically impossible" for our universe to have always been there, because it can't come from nothing. By that logic god should not exist because if he does, there had to be something before that created him. And something that created that, and so on; meaning there was never a time when nothing existed
Jun 27 2013 1:53AM
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Stose
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I've posted their number on here before, but it's long since then been changed
Jun 27 2013 1:56AM
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Beaansss
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The big bang created everything. I dont know how the first living organisms cam about but we certainly evolved from a common ancestor. It is impossible that someone created our galaxy, our planet, and all human beings. I am not hating on anyones beliefs but it is amazingly hard to believe one person created where we are today. And if im not wrong it is a sin to not follow what god says, wouldnt stopping at a stop light be a sin because you are not following gods "rules".
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