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Curing cancer.. with HIV?

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lbuitendam
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Jun 25 2013 2:29PM
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1337
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whattt, that's crazy. Science ftw
Jun 25 2013 2:30PM
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HWW
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They're only using the HI virus (modified version) to bind with human T-cells, take over the cell and force it to produce a specific protein which makes them able to kill cancerous cells.
Jun 25 2013 2:38PM
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Mr.Sloth
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Science, bitch. Science.
Jun 25 2013 2:42PM
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Ribss.
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Oh yeah dude it's only a possible huge medical advancement, no big deal. What makes you so special to belittle something like this?
Jun 25 2013 2:46PM
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LoathesRaisins
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It's astounding how close we are to curing so many diseases.
Jun 25 2013 3:01PM
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theblackrod
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Yes, but you don't have the HI virus that will kill you, you have a "good" version of the HI virus.
Jun 25 2013 3:01PM
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skiierman
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Religion- Science is the devil's work! ONLY GOD CAN PLAY GOD!

But Religion, what about all the advancements in technology and in the medical field that we have because of science?

Religion- Oh that's God's work. He inspires the doctors to be so committed to curing deadly diseases.
Jun 25 2013 3:11PM
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Stainr
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haha^

Jun 25 2013 3:13PM
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Ribss.
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Well that is because you are a simple minded neanderthal.
Jun 25 2013 3:22PM
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LoathesRaisins
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You realize not all viruses are bad?
Jun 25 2013 3:25PM
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Dingo69
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Holy fuck
Jun 25 2013 3:28PM
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theblackrod
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Say this treatment is done to you, yes you now have HIV, but the HIV you have is not the same HIV Magic Johnson has. Magic Johnson's HIV attacks his T cells and destroys his immune system, your genetically modified HIV attacks cancer cells and leaves your healthy T cells alone.

Simple:

Yes you are injected with a virus, but that virus is good for you.





It's the same idea that Botix is derived from a deadly toxin, but people directly injected into themselves for appearances and does not harm them (if done correctly)
Jun 25 2013 3:29PM
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mmallender.
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who invited princess happypants?

curing cancer is no big deal right?
Jun 25 2013 3:47PM
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skiierman
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and not to mention HIV doesn't kill you and is actually very manageable. It's when it turns into AIDS does your neck join your cock in a pile of shit.
Jun 25 2013 3:53PM
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123+ski
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threads to actually learn about this, but I felt that this was also relevant

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Jun 25 2013 3:54PM
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HWW
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No you misunderstood what I was trying to convey. Of course it's a huge scientific achievement. What I meant with "only" was the fact that nothing dangerous was happening with the HIV, it was simply being used as a genetic component which alters T-cells. It could theoretically be done with other viruses which function in a similar way, yet which are unknown to most people because they have no significant meaning in medicine. Thus the fact that a potentially harmful virus is used in this process holds nothing largely within it. Writing from phone and I hope I conveyed my point.
Jun 25 2013 4:28PM
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Horsefacekillah
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thanks you doctor ns.
Jun 25 2013 4:32PM
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HolySchimmel
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has anyone done further research on this matter? Like other articles etc.?
Jun 25 2013 4:40PM
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blatt
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It's called gene therapy, oddly enough the exact research I'm doing (but with adenovirus instead of HIV, which is a far better virus choice IMO)
Jun 25 2013 4:43PM
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theblackrod
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you're welcome, just trying to help you understand.



and yes, AIDS makes your neck and cock join together. skiierman speaks truth on that
Jun 25 2013 4:58PM
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JakeAssBeatClap
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QFE
Jun 25 2013 5:23PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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personal treatments are cool but the cost is immense. I haven't watched but I believe the idea is to make the immune system attack cancer cells. this would work well if all cancer cells looked the same on the outside and remained that way. look up provenge.
Jun 25 2013 6:14PM
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SamtheEagle
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I got HIV so that i dont get cancer
Jun 25 2013 10:27PM
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blatt
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Nope. With having viruses attack cancer cells (oncolytic gene therapy) the goal is to have the cancer cell express genes transfected by the virus and then said genes cause apoptosis in the cell.

End of my nerd rant
Jun 25 2013 10:30PM
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newnewschool
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Doctor: So do you want to continue treatment? The cost is immense
You: No, I'd rather spend it on something else.
Doctor: k
You: *dies*
Jun 25 2013 10:42PM
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B.Aussie
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That's assuming you have the money in the first place.
Jun 25 2013 10:47PM
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coldcuts69
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Interested to see how this method progresses...
Jun 25 2013 10:49PM
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Skibumsmith
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The title is misleading.
Read this: http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2013/06/25/no-doctors-did-not-inject-hiv-into-a-dying-girl-to-treat-her-cancer/
Jun 25 2013 10:53PM
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sneezin
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pshhh aint nothin. not like we've been trying to kill cancer for ages or anything. Nothing to see here. Move on

But seriously, science is nuts. to think what we're gonna see in our lifetime
Jun 25 2013 10:57PM
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Fuknhipster
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Is there a link to the original video source?
Jun 25 2013 11:15PM
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Crispy.
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I feel the need to say that my great uncle is one of the oldest living people with aids. /claim?
Jun 25 2013 11:46PM
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RockNRollNghtClb
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damn scientists keep on grinding
Jun 25 2013 11:58PM
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Stose
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Every time I read about medical treatments being tested now-a-days, my mind is simply blown. Maybe it's because I just didn't hear much about stuff like this when I was younger, but it seems like we are just truly pushing the impossible at such a fast rate now.
Jun 26 2013 12:29AM
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.Roockley.
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read this, souper interesting
Jun 26 2013 12:51AM
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.Roockley.
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http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2013/06/25/no-doctors-did-not-inject-hiv-into-a-dying-girl-to-treat-her-cancer/
Jun 26 2013 12:51AM
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Joebin
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Jun 26 2013 1:05AM
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BoogieWoman
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How old is he?
Jun 26 2013 2:14AM
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erikK
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now go fly into a building for me!
Jun 26 2013 2:35AM
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*DUMBCAN*
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And we have the truth.

The only reason we have HIV anywhere on this thread (or in any discussion about this video, or the video itself for that matter) is because HIV is one of about 5 viral diseases that most journalists have heard of.
Jun 26 2013 4:10AM
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B.Aussie
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And it was the HI virus that they modified to attack the cancer cells.
Jun 26 2013 6:15AM
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Fuknhipster
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Threads
Jun 26 2013 9:05AM
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.Capn.
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This shit is played. Bitch about something new for Christ's sake
Jun 26 2013 10:02AM
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LoathesRaisins
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But how could the doctor's become so great without the help of our powerful Lord and Savior?
Jun 26 2013 1:04PM
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deleted5
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So if I'm reading this correctly and I can have sex with someone who is treated from cancer and I'll be cured of cancer.
Jun 26 2013 1:15PM
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roddy116
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because there smart?
Jun 26 2013 1:28PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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ahh that's he alternative. Same issue though, you'd need everything to present the same cell surface characteristics so the virus has something to look for.
Jun 26 2013 1:31PM
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PhaedeD
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or you could just cure cancer with marijuana.
Jun 26 2013 2:52PM
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deleted5
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I fucking hate people who think marijuana cures cancer. I've had people tell me that being 100% Serious.
Jun 26 2013 3:04PM
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