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Sometimes they blow the whistle too early, sometimes too late. Its just really inconsistent and some teams get screwed by it.

Mar 16 2014 1:57AM

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except the puck was covered. And on top of that the ref lost sight of it since it was not only covered it was also on the opposite side of Lehner. The whistle should have been blown and there's not doubting that. And the refs were clearly biased in favour of Montreal pretty much the entire game.

Mar 16 2014 2:06AM

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While I totally agree with everything you are saying. I'm just still too bitter about the playoffs last year to have any remorse :(

Mar 16 2014 2:17AM

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In other shocking news, water is wet.

Mar 16 2014 9:48AM

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holy balls last nights officiating......

Mar 16 2014 9:50AM

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Habs game. holy fuck. What a shitshow there at the end haha.

Mar 16 2014 10:52AM

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see what i mean? EVIDENCE! everyone thought i was full of it when the leafs got screwed in the third in mtl when mtl was down a goal. shit happens all the time. wtf was turris' penalty for in the last 2 minutes of the third? another bullshit call go mtl's way.

im not arguing obvious calls here. im saying if there's an "up in the air, could go either way" type of thing happening, it ALWAYS goes in mtl's favor in their own building, especially if they're losing. they love to give mtl as many advantages and opportunities as they can.

i wonder what the stats on their come from behind wins at home are this season. im willing to bet it's pretty fucking high. and that's no coincidence.

oh, and here's a nice little article about some of the shit from last night too.

The Senators had been called twice for goalie interference earlier in the game – including one on Spezza where Carey Price clearly sold the call – and had also had a second-period goal disallowed amid nebulous circumstances.

The league issued the following statement immediately following a video review.

“At 14:50 of the second period in the Ottawa Senators/Montreal Canadiens game, the Situation Room initiated video review after the puck entered the Montreal net. The referee informed the Situation Room that after a referee's huddle, it was determined Ottawa's Colin Greening made incidental contact with Montreal's Carey Price prior to the puck entering the net. The referee informed the Situation Room that he had also called a tripping penalty on Montreal's Lars Eller during the play. This is not a reviewable play, therefore the referee's call on the ice stands. No goal Ottawa. Penalty Montreal.”

All well and good, except the original call on the ice was actually a goal: Furlatt pointed to the puck as it slid into the neat.

And after the review, he took to the in-rink P.A. system to announce that the call had been changed because net was knocked off prior to the puck crossing (which replays showed it had, making it the correct decision).

However, the league’s note makes no mention of the net, and if a penalty was called, how could it be incidental contact? And why was the call changed on the ice?

“That’s confusing for me,” Ottawa coach Paul MacLean said afterward.

and then it later says

In February of 2013, then-Senator Jakob Silvferberg was whistled for a dubious goalie interference penalty, wiping out a goal in what became a 2-1 loss to the Habs in Montreal.

Mar 16 2014 12:39PM

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Mar 16 2014 12:40PM

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you can find this stuff pretty easily for days. fucking montreal...

Mar 16 2014 12:41PM

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hard to really tell out of a single frame though. because play went on for a good 3 seconds. was that the point just when it came dislodged? was that the start of the play where it was loose and could have been covered?

im not all that convinced, being that i saw it live, saw all the angles, saw guys hacking at the goalie, and heard the play callers talking about why that wouldn't be whistled. you almost always get quick whistles in those situations. had it been carey price down like that, the whistle would have gone instantly. no mtl refs are going to let guys take their chops at the prized possession of mtl..

but no matter. ottawa did lose that one for themselves. it's just really funny to continue to see all this refereeing bullshit centered around mtl and how the calls ALWAYS swing in their favor. you're not going to see mtl take a bullshit or even a remotely close call to lose a game in their own building, ever.

Mar 16 2014 12:46PM

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plus, this

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After the game, referees apparently told Ottawa captain Jason Spezza that there was no whistle on the play because the building was too loud.

"I have no idea what that means," said Sens coach Paul MacLean. "That's the explanation we got. I'm confused."

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Mar 16 2014 12:48PM

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last post, i swear.

i went back and checked the video from the game winning goal, and it was under his pad, behind his blocker when he was down for a good second, got poked out into the open (which you see in the frame posted), at which point you can't blow a whistle then shot in.

but for that second where it was pad, blocker, two defensemen with their sticks in front of the pads, a secure puck, the whistle needs to be blown. then when 5 more guys come jamming in and knock things around, you can't really say "OH LOOK IT WAS LOOSE!" well duh. just because it wasn't under his glove (which he had no way of doing because it was under his right leg and behind/under his blocker) doesn't mean it didn't have it covered..

let the players play. seeing people just crash the neck, whack at the goalie, knock him around, and hope, is just garbage.

Mar 16 2014 12:54PM

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yea this was after a solid 3 seconds with no whistle when it was covered, then it got knocked out to there with everyone crashing the net after the whistle could have been blown twice. At this point the ref still can't see the puck btw so as far as he's concerned it's still completely covered and is still choosing to not blow the whistle. garbage.

Mar 16 2014 1:05PM

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Mar 16 2014 1:10PM

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Oh ok it was too loud to blow the whistle. I get it now.

Sorry guys, my bad! It's a good goal since it was too loud to blow the whistle. I really shouldn't have jumped to the conclusion the refs are paid off in Montreal.

Mar 16 2014 1:12PM

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Trailing after 2nd period: 3-22-4
Trailing after 1st period: 5-11-4

Mar 16 2014 1:13PM

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yeh you're right , like the refs were biased in favour of canada in the final game of the olympics, totally forgot about that.

fucking refs, so unprofessional

Mar 16 2014 2:14PM

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Just popping in to say Suck It Pittsburgh. Stealing 4 points from the number one team in our division feels pretty damn good. Nice shutout by Mason in the first game too. Crosby and Malkin with one shot between em on Saturday. Just admit it already Pens fans, Flyers own the Consol Energy Center. Hope to see ya in the playoffs for another great series.

Mar 16 2014 3:39PM

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God, take off your tin foil hat and shut the fuck up...

Montreal might have got some lucky calls there, especially the one in OT (I agree at the time, I felt like there should have been a whistle, but at the same time, the dude didn't even make an attempt to get his glove down on it - which is pretty poor) but you don't blow a 3 goal lead in 4 minutes without making some serious mistakes.

I've seen way worse officiating and I've seen some funny business that made me think, especially in games involving Detroit last decade, that the refs were totally siding with them in critical situations and big games...

but then I realized I'm full of shit and biased against them to begin with so my judgement is clouded. I should just sit down and stop thinking about hockey's grassy knoll.

..shit, it's at least not the NBA, after all.

Mar 16 2014 4:26PM

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The Rangers are all over San Jose. shots are 14-3 but Niemi is standing on his head. a couple unbelievable saves.

Mar 16 2014 4:28PM

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It's now 18-10. Pretty rare to see the sharks outshot like this in one period...

that said, Couture's shortie was soo pretty.

Mar 16 2014 4:42PM

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hagelin just got robbed. that puck was definitely in. but you couldnt see it physically crossing the line so they didnt allow it. major bummer

Mar 16 2014 5:42PM

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Not robbed at all... No conclusive evidence whether it even went across the line before the whistle to begin with...

Mar 16 2014 5:48PM

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Pens got outplayed both games no doubt. But holy injuries for the pens.

Mar 16 2014 5:58PM

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clearly it did go in before the whistle imo. if you look at when niemi's pad locked up against the post relative to the whistle and given the fact that when he removed his pad the puck came out of the net its pretty easy to reach the conclusion the puck was in.

however, i do understand why they didnt count it. it is just really strong circumstantial evidence rather then proof of it crossing the line. still bummed though

Mar 16 2014 6:11PM

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No, it's not easy to come to a conclusion, it's easy for a Rangers fan to make an assumption. Easy as that...

you want a robbery? Vlasic's stick on the puck on McDonagh's shot at the open net. THAT was robbery.

Mar 16 2014 6:14PM

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You picked a good game to go! That's for sure!

Mar 16 2014 6:24PM

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yeah well whatever, we clearly disagree but its no big deal. if the rangers lose this game 1-0 the hagelin play isnt the first one you would point to and say ''thats why they lost'' so ill stop bitching.

theyve had at least 10 other scoring opportunities taht were high quality and either niemi was a beast, they shot it directly into him with the whole net open or the defense saved the day (like with that vlasic block)

the rangers have been really frustrating to watch since the break. most games they have dominated time of possession and shots but have been unable to finish and then absolutely appalling defensive breakdowns lead to them losing.

Mar 16 2014 6:25PM

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San Jose's had somewhere around 15 or 16 great scoring chances tonight. New York is just "ron wilsoning' it by peppering from the blueline, hoping for deflections and whatnot. They are crashing the net with Defenders well though, very aggressive.

Mar 16 2014 6:31PM

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I certainly wouldn't mind if the Rangers lost tonight. Metro is too damn close for comfort.

Mar 16 2014 6:33PM

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the hockey genie has granted your wish. you have two wishes left

Mar 16 2014 6:41PM

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That was a perfectly played final 3 minutes... Huge shutout for Nemo.. First time against NYR, and most saves in a shutout for a Shark.

Mar 16 2014 6:41PM

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Hossa is playing tonight. TYBG

Mar 16 2014 6:43PM

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I love seeing tokarski get a start

Mar 16 2014 6:45PM

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Well in that case I'll really only need one wish.

Thank you San Jose.

Flyers back to second in the metro........for now.

Mar 16 2014 6:51PM

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indeed.

i feel like niemi doesnt get the respect he deserves. maybe my perception is off and its true he was a vezina trophy finalist last year but i just feel like in general hes a guy people dont talk enough about since hes always played on teams with real solid team defense. really solid goalie

hopefully the rangers will be able to turn it around and get a run going. they certainly need to

Mar 16 2014 7:04PM

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wings need a win tonight, and the caps to shit the bed on their road trip out west.

Mar 16 2014 7:20PM

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Habs game last night. Words can't describe the atmosphere in the bell centre. What a fucking game. People were leaving after it was 4-1... Those idiots missed a great comeback

Mar 16 2014 7:25PM

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Hey Subban, fuck you buddy!

Mar 16 2014 7:29PM

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KICK!!!

Mar 16 2014 7:35PM

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Come on Wings!!!!

Mar 16 2014 7:39PM

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fuck, this kid on facebook. "Really classy chant, chicago."

chants been around for ages. nothing new.

Mar 16 2014 7:46PM

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You should see how idiot sharks fans talk about Niemi... I have so many idiot friends who think we should have traded him and just stuck with Stalock this season

...It's like the idiots who say "the Sharks will never win it with chokers like Marlo and Thorton"

It's hard to get respect with jackassery like that.

Mar 17 2014 1:15AM

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That makes no damn sense

Mar 17 2014 7:58AM

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It's akin to the asshats in Vancouver who blamed everything on Luongo

Mar 17 2014 8:13AM

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Or everyone in Detroit blaming everything on Howard

Mar 17 2014 8:23AM

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Yeah, obviously you guys should trade Datsyuk and Zetterberg and that 'Linnstrome guy' because you're never going to win again with them. Washed up chokers I say!!

Mar 17 2014 9:49AM

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