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May 21 2013 10:27AM
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feihlination
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since prater now holds the nfl record, i think its fitting to remember this

Dec 11 2013 12:16PM
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Benson.
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Indeed. We stole that win, I'm not afraid to admit it. Retribution for the NY and Carolina calls perhaps.
Dec 11 2013 12:26PM
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feihlination
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if that PI happens in the first quarter, noone would care. like with kuechlys penalty.

imo, the panthers shouldve gotten a PI in the endzone on their first or second drive against the saints, but they didnt get it, the hometown fans obviously didnt cry for it, so thats it. noone will talk about it. but with that and one single catch by ginn, they go into the half on top or close to tied instead of down 15 points.
Dec 11 2013 12:30PM
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Kekambas.
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you don't think people would care that the pats were basically given a TD?

Also, the defenseless receiver hit was awful and that was a pretty huge call.

Thing is that PI call put a huge blemish on that game because even though i hate the pats i think without that call they still would have had a good chance at scoring.
Dec 11 2013 12:42PM
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Ski_the_east01
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I honestly thing the pats would have scored anyways, but obviously thats just a guess and has no real impact on anything.

Yes the PI against the browns was a bad call and handed hte patriots a win, yes the PI/holding by the panthers was a bad no call and handed carolina the win. The thing with bad calls is over the course of a season they usually even out.

An important distinction here is not whether the patriots are/aren't getting screwed and conspiracy theories blah blah blah...it's the effect the home crowd has on officials in tight situations. There have been numerous studies that show officials are very swayed by a home crowd. If the NE/CAR is at gillette, pats get that whistle in the endzone. If the pats are playing in cleveland last weekend, they do not get that PI call and receive the ball on the one to win the game

also, while the defenseless receiver call on edelman was a bad call it absolutely looked like 100% right call from the back judges perspective. He was standing right under the goal post and was partially shielded by edelman making the completely legal hit look absolutely vicious. Not the correct call obviously but I think it's hard to fault the back judge when the only perspective he had looked like an easy call. Could the other refs counter? Of course and they should have, but are they going to pick up a flag IN gillette? No of course not, just like they're going to pick up a flag IN carolina
Dec 11 2013 1:02PM
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KZA
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Welp, the circus has returned to Washington again. Looks like they are starting Kirk Cousins aka White Chocolate this week. Now I know RG3 has played like shit lately, but the defense, o-line, and special teams haven't helped. Doesn't make sense to me considering the Falcons are a terrible team and RG3 got some rest. Oh well.

Anyways, went to the Chiefs/Redskins game on Sunday. Despite the poor performance, it would have been way more fun if it had stayed as snow instead of turning to freezing rain/sleet.

Saw the second half from the owners box. Took a shit in Snyder's toilet too, it stunk. I got that going for me at least.
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Dec 11 2013 1:08PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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^at least you get the real fan cred that comes with going to the lowest attended game in the stadiums history

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pretty cool about the oweners box too assuming its true

Dec 12 2013 10:25AM
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hey-dude-its-me
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also the schedules are starting to develop, no dates, just teams and locations
Dec 12 2013 10:30AM
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bakedpow
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idk how you can dislike russel wilson. such a good human being. and he just got picked up by the texas rangers.

i thought this was pretty funny.

http://m.imgur.com/KAW6hk2
Dec 12 2013 5:10PM
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KZA
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I may hate almost everything about the Seahawks, but Russel is a stand up guy. You guys got a steal by picking him.
Dec 12 2013 5:18PM
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DMA_Studios
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such a nice guy. And he's not covered in tats like some sort of douche with something to prove.
(taken shots at Kaepernick)
Dec 12 2013 5:20PM
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GayWolf420
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yeah wilson seems like a good dude, saw him on a podcast and he was really cool.


awe shit, NFC north all tied up again.
Dec 12 2013 5:22PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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why is peyton throwing to the middle of the field...
Dec 12 2013 11:24PM
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Sno.
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He's the best. Just heard a tribute to him on the radio today from the kids he's visited at children's hospital.

go hawks.
Dec 12 2013 11:30PM
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Jeebus.
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Did post season peyton show up early this season??!!
Dec 12 2013 11:34PM
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forrest-cole
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Ya those 4 check down plays right down the middle for like 5 yards with a minute left was really driving me nuts.. Whatever we played like shit overall, gotta step up no matter how good our team is.



^and i'd rather have PFM playing shitty now then in the playoffs, so it's all good. He wants that superbowl bad
Dec 12 2013 11:51PM
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Benson.
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Hopefully for you he doesn't crap the bed this year. I don't think the Pats will get far. These last-minute victories they're barely pulling off don't give me great confidence for the postseason...
Dec 12 2013 11:55PM
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KZA
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Say what you will about RG3, but is anyone else getting sick of the constant scrutiny. Sure, he has had a pretty horrendous season but it is amazing how quick people are to forget. Last year he was one of the most electrifying players in the league putting up 800+ rushing yards, 20 tds, 5 ints, and 66% completion rate. Maybe he wont return to that same status, but I don't think many people can rebound from an acl/lcl tear this quickly, especially given his style of play. When you throw in the missed offseason, knee brace, terrible defense and special teams, league worst starting field position, lost cap space, etc. it doesn't seem that shocking to me. Or when you're down 7 and decided to throw it every down instead of feeding the rock to Alfred the Butler.

I know he set himself up for this with the week 1 shit and constant media attention, but jesus christ. It's getting a little ridiculous. He has the worst mechanics in the league. He is selfish. He's mad he got benched (no shit!). He'll never be the same. etc etc etc. Ya'll can call me a homer, but I think a lot of the critics are gonna eat their words after he has a full offseason.
Dec 13 2013 9:19AM
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bakedpow
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they definitely jumped on him quickly. he is in a huge media center in washington so he will obviously get a lot more attention. sportscenter is just trying to fill space on the god forsaken show.
Dec 13 2013 9:24AM
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hey-dude-its-me
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I think rg3's mentality is good for his own performance with 2 caveats 1)being overzealous got him hurt 2) assuming he doesn't let the negative attention his personality generates get to him. being cocky is good being outwardly cocky isn't. saying stuff like, "dont worry you're stil great" to tony romo and trying word your bragging profoundly like, "many men talk about being the first to arrive and the last to leave,,,, but very few actually do it" isn't very endearing.

I still believe in his arm but he needs to change his frame and his style of play. he needs to get whatever laron landry is holding.
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Dec 13 2013 10:07AM
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feihlination
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CHARGERS!

too bad we kinda let a few easy games slip away. with just one of those avoidable losses less, we would be in prime position. but thats the NFL, consistency is among the toughest things to achieve.

really a great game by the chargers. apart from the first drive they had peytons numbers with ease. they DID confuse him on a number of plays (contrary to the popular belief that you cannot confuse him). most notably on the interception. they showed blitz from his right but then kind of slid it to the right with frankly, a weird drop by the LBs. good protection but he simply waited until its too late.

then the broncos think its a good idea to complete 5 passes in a row which keep the clock running. i mean, thats nice to pad your stats, but you cannot win the game this way. realistically, they cannot score a TD with a whole lot of time left with this "method". at best they get what they did get, a FG with "some" time left. but even if you recover the onside kick, what are you gonna do? now you need the TD, will you dink and dunk it then also?

fact is the broncos cannot stretch the field as much as they would like, mainly because mannings arm is not there. he doesnt need it as much as other guys, yes, but people kind of confused some throws in the chiefs/titans game with "arm strength throws". no, they are not. when your receiver has beaten his man and you put it inside/over the top for a 25-35 yd completion, that has nothing to with arm strength. thats anticipation. manning cannot beat you deep to the outside. if you buckle down on all intermediate/short stuff and focus on the deep middle, he wont beat you deep to the outside. they will get a play here and there yes, but they cannot play from behind (because they are not a big play offense when they arent playing with a lead) and they cannot run it. and i didnt even talk about their defense yet :)

so, enough with the broncos. really like what telesco and mccoy did. turned over a big part of the roster and even though they missed on derek cox, they got a lot of solid players in their first offseason. allen looks like a future star. kid just knows how to run routes. fluker is awesome, fan favourite right off the bat. whole oline is starting to become a strength instead of a weakness. woodhead has to be a top 5 FA pickup of the last few years. walker, keiser, guy and lissemore are all solid players they got for cheap. if te'o can keep it up and reyes/liuget can play the whole season like its november/december, this team will be one to watch. rivers has to be one of the most emotional QBs you will ever see. that interview after the game is quality. you see within one second how much he loves to play the game. other guys are fiery and professional, but rivers kind of edges all QBs in emotionality.
Dec 13 2013 11:15AM
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Kekambas.
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Rivers is also a taint, he acts like a rich teenager.
Dec 13 2013 11:34AM
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hey-dude-its-me
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his post game interview was like an anchorman promo
Dec 13 2013 11:54AM
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PON3
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It's inevitable. This game just made the play offs way more interesting for the Broncos.


Go Chiefs!
Dec 13 2013 12:18PM
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forrest-cole
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sorry but the broncos are still going to make it further then the chargers, fact..


Again i'd rather have the broncs play there worst game of the year right now when we're already guaranteed in the playoffs, then when it actually matters..


PFM and the Broncos are still one of the best teams in the league.


Props to Mccoy, if anyone is stoked it's him!
Dec 13 2013 12:37PM
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Ski_the_east01
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This.

The chargers are perennial losers. They always rank near the top of the league year after year in both offense and defense yet htey shit the bed come playoffs. It's truly remarkable that an entire organization just doesn't know how to win
Dec 13 2013 1:11PM
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Jeebus.
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First off, who the fuck says PFM.. thats fucking dumb.
Secondly, Peyton isn't the guy you want as your quarter back, he has a truly atrocious playoff record, especially for "one of the top QBs" in the game.
Dude is awful in the post season, AKA when it really matters. He may be a great QB that much is common knowledge, but he will never be better than tom brady for the simple fact of his garbage playoff record.
Dec 13 2013 2:46PM
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forrest-cole
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^ Peyton Fucking Manning bro, PFM so suck my dick. I'd rather have him then pretty much any other quarterback in the league, so again suck it easy.
Dec 13 2013 7:09PM
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BravoWhiskey5280
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One yr. ago this wk, Ravens @ home, killed by Broncos. And how'd Balt finish? Sky ain't fallen', Broncos fans. Just a little gray
Dec 14 2013 5:08PM
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*TURBONERD*
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Brady's the only guy I'd rather have than Manning, but calling him PFM is moronic.
Dec 15 2013 2:05AM
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feihlination
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no shit dude. completely irrelevant attack on the chargers.

obviously its good to have a bad game now than later, no shit dude, but who says that its not going to stay like this? especially on defense. even in this day and age, you gotta run the football to win in january, and you gotta stop the run. both things the broncos will have problems.

generally, this is THE WORST PASS defense (according to footballoutsiders or pff, cant remember which one), going on the road and pretty much stop the best pass offense (by all accounts).

better defenses will find a way to stop the broncos as well, write that down. the colts, pats (at least one half) and chargers played different styles and shut them down. colts were very aggressive, jamming receivers hard. pats played the same look all game, also tight coverage outside and controlling the middle. chargers mixed it up, but what really won them this game, i think was their 3-rush package, where they drop 8 guys into coverage and basically let peyton go through his reads, which noone would think is a good idea, yet it worked.

basic problems of the offense: peyton cannot stretch the field deep to the outside. they abandon the run waaaay to early. they cannot play from behind either because they are just dinking and dunking it all over.

this is all on a very high level, i have to admit. its like overemphasizing minor things since this offense really is among the best in NFL history. but such minor flaws can kill you in a single-game playoff format.

Dec 15 2013 11:11AM
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feihlination
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for the last few years they certainly werent near the top. you probably still live in the past where they were called "the most talented team in football" year in, year out. over the last few years, it was definitely a lack of talent. you can say that they are a little bit cheap in paying their stars, but the pats are too, so what?

an "organization" cannot know how to win, thats a dumb statement. put belichick and brady on the jaguars, and they are a playoff team.

the giants and steelers come also to mind. "top class" organisations, and see where they are at now.

i am really looking forward to how mccoy and telesco can transform this roster, still too many holes left.
Dec 15 2013 11:16AM
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feihlination
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so the seeding doesnt matter? with this loss, they are not in control of the no.1 seed. wont say the pats will win out, but still.

the chiefs could still overtake the broncos if they drop more of these games that "dont matter". that would make them the 5th seed, no home games, no bye.

EVERY GAME MATTERS.
Dec 15 2013 11:22AM
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hey-dude-its-me
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Some great fundamental football on display in Atlanta today
Dec 15 2013 1:59PM
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Benson.
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this.
Dec 15 2013 2:02PM
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Benson.
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What a catch by Hoo-Man!
Dec 15 2013 2:06PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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haha vernon davis looked like he knocked himself out running into the wall and they just stand him up and start slapping him on the helmet
Dec 15 2013 2:18PM
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Anathema
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marshawn lynch is a fucking beast. i already knew this, but god damn i rediscover how good he is every week. man will just not go down.
Dec 15 2013 2:23PM
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Jeebus.
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That was fucking bullshit, i guess last minute calls only come when they're against the patriots, the refs are fucking atrocious this year, bring back the replacement refs.
Dec 15 2013 4:07PM
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feihlination
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thats just true. i really didnt like the commentary by simms when he said that "yes, its PI, but not in this situation". thats just horseshit.

rules are especially important late in the game. fact is that the deep one to edelman was PI and the one to hoomanawanui obviously as well. either it is PI or not. down/distance/game situation should play ZERO role in determining a penalty or not.

dolphins played a good game and deserve the win, no question, but that was a botched call. in effect, this would have given the pats a fresh set of downs from the 1yd line with enough time for at least two short plays.

and dont bring up the questionable call in cleveland. that has nothing to do with it.
Dec 15 2013 4:14PM
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forrest-cole
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BOOM, DOLPHINS! Now hopefully the chiefs loose, that's probably not happening though.
Dec 15 2013 4:19PM
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forrest-cole
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lose*

I blame day drinking, that word is weird as fuck the more you think about it.
Dec 15 2013 4:23PM
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PON3
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We'll see about that, so far they are up 21 - 3 in the first. many more points to come ;)
Dec 15 2013 4:44PM
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Benson.
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.Did anyone else in NE catch Brady saying "there were some good plays, there were some shitty plays" LIVE during a press conference on the 5th Quarter, and then they cut away? And then when they cut back, he walked out in a rage haha

Still sucks that the Pats lost, but a bit of comic relief lightened the mood. I didn't like how all the Pats receivers were begging for PI calls at the end there. None of those were even close to pass interference. That's what happens when the refs do something like they did last week with Cleveland.
Dec 15 2013 4:48PM
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bakedpow
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23-0 i can deal with that. lob dominating today
Dec 15 2013 4:51PM
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theBearJew
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So glad the refs didn't hand the patriots the game like the last 2 weeks. Now if the Ravens can just lose...
Dec 15 2013 5:02PM
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Jeebus.
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Still doesn't make up for the losses to the jets and panthers both decided on bad calls. The no call on who man, was certainly PI i mean the dude tackled him before the ball was touched, that was blatant.
Dec 15 2013 5:29PM
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forrest-cole
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Raiders are catching up, you never know what will happen!
Dec 15 2013 6:21PM
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forrest-cole
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or not haha
Dec 15 2013 6:37PM
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AT-AT
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Man dallas is losing it right now.
Dec 15 2013 7:38PM
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