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TotallyTrevor
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I'm not sure how many people will see this on the homepage but it made me think.  I wanna know other people's opinions....because it's the future, and the internet is cool.

https://www.newschoolers.com/readnews/43045.0/The-Edit-and-it-s-Dwindling-Ability-to-Impress
Apr 29 2013 10:21PM
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TotallyTrevor
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wow really blew it with that thread title
Apr 29 2013 10:21PM
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_Garagely_
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There's some truth to it but things like Real Skifi prove it wrong.
Apr 29 2013 10:23PM
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Daph
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I tend to agree and then things like this come up and my mind becomes full of fuck and happiness.

Apr 29 2013 10:25PM
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Hoeseph
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exactly what i was thinking. even if there are a bunch of subpar edits coming out, there are still mind-blowing ones, and they will stand out, possibly even more so because of all the other mediocre edits
Apr 29 2013 10:26PM
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J-LUVrunsthegame
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very valid point, but at the same time there are definatly edits being put out that are unique to everyone elses. alot of the nordica edits have been really intriguing me with skiiers like kieren mcveigh, etc. (i know there is a shit ton of hype on him right now but i believe his skiing could possibly be game changing, and im looking forward to seing what happens to the skiing world in the near future) but going back, as i said there are most definatly unique skiiers with different styles and different unique ways of doing tricks/hitting features. just my 2 cents
Apr 29 2013 10:26PM
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sweatshirt
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danderson is just being a whiny little cunt. Newschoolers is better then ever and the the fact that we are getting way more edits is a good thing.
Apr 29 2013 10:28PM
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7springsprod
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So every edit is supposed to set a new trend? I feel like Im not getting something.
Apr 29 2013 10:33PM
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whoa-dere
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this is true to an extent. i'll come in later don't have much time to type out everything i have to say about this.
Apr 29 2013 10:38PM
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CheddarJack
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I feel like edits are almost more about the cinematography than they are the skiing nowadays... but that's just me
Apr 29 2013 10:44PM
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katrina
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all im sayin, is if you are going to bitch about how anyone can just put up shitty edits on the internet...



PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH
Apr 29 2013 10:54PM
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casual
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No I don't agree at all. I think it's a matter of individual fatigue and accruing expectations.

It's a GREAT thing that the barriers have all but been totally removed between "professional" and "amateur" videographers. It puts the tools of the trade in the hands of people who wouldn't have had the opportunity to film/edit/produce otherwise. There's so much virtually "independent" shit coming out with little to no obligation to sponsors, and no concern for "careers in the industry" or qualifying for Sochi, that is fucking rad.

Yes, there is a LOT more ski content being produced and released....but that's true across the board well beyond the confines of skiing and edits. Naturally, with more raw numbers, you're going to have a lot of shit that's underwhelming, derivative, unimaginative, and just plain fucking bad. But, that doesn't mean that there isn't incredible shit coming out all of the time. Maybe it takes a little longer to sift through some of the bullshit, but pretty much any and every time I want to watch something brand new on the edit front, I can go to toprated and almost always find something that's ridiculous.

Frankly, the idea that an edit has a responsibility to, or is a failure if it doesn't "change skiing as we know it", is silly to me.
Apr 30 2013 12:08AM
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whoa-dere
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I do agree that the edits coming out now are not as fun to watch as edit from around the "ghood" times. now people try too hard to make them into "art" and oftentimes overdo it, ruining the vibe of the edits. There's nothing wrong with being artistic in making them, that shouldn't be the priority. it's hard to find edits like these anymore

just banger shots and good vibes. but with that said, not all recent edits are bad.


Apr 30 2013 12:21AM
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NinetyFour
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What did I just watch besides a stone cold stare from Charlie Owens?
Apr 30 2013 12:34AM
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katrina
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one of the numerous sub-par edits floating around on the web... made and posted by the guy who wrote the article.
Apr 30 2013 12:38AM
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fghtoffyrdmns
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what was so special about that
Apr 30 2013 12:50PM
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ski.cats
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that article was poorly written, with logic that was even worse.   it begs the question that the edit doesnt hold the water that it used to, because bad edits are bad.  the logic doesnt pan out. he's really just complaining about the crap he has to wade through to find anything decent. if anything it makes the really good edits seem better.

whats funny is just last night i got a text from a buddy saying "peep that nordica edit"

wow is all i can say about that.

off the top of my head, andreas' recent edit also blew me away.

in other words, op (author) needs to stop complaining
Apr 30 2013 1:14PM
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90053
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i think it purely because with the way the sport is progressing there are so many sick skiers out, and filming as progressed heaps as well, its not that there aren't good edits out, its that there are too many good edits, it's just where the sport is at and imo edits that really are good enough to stand out from the rest do, many thanks to the rating system on newschoolers, it's all relative and its becoming more and more difficult to get that creative edge

however i do agree that songs are overused, which is surprising with the amount of up-and-coming artists on soundcloud and youtube,
Apr 30 2013 1:25PM
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dergblerp
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I was hoping the article would have something more substantial to say...  Basically he doesn't like that it's easy to create and distribute videos and is somehow surprised that most of the content isn't good.  It's like he just went on youtube for the first time and is only now realizing this... 

Not that anything he says is incorrect, but there really isn't anything wrong with people filming their friends and throwing it up on the internet.  It's easy to sit on your couch and criticize someones creative work, meanwhile it's really hard to go out and make something interesting, original, and high quality.  Danderson should stuff a rag in his mouth and let people have their fun.
Apr 30 2013 2:00PM
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newnewschool
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we need a real travis rice of skiing.
Apr 30 2013 3:29PM
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CrotchKiller
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Apr 30 2013 4:08PM
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Daph
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really?
Apr 30 2013 10:15PM
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fghtoffyrdmns
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iean t was a chill edit but nothing really stood out at all just more hipster wierd "steeze", there was no jump bangers, not many rail bangers, etc
May 7 2013 1:34AM
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noname..
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your definition of 'bangers' is wrong.
May 7 2013 2:50AM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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honestly my favorite edit of the season, such a beautiful portrayal of skiing. Two posts above me is retarded, this isn't "hipster weird steez", this is some refreshingly awesome skiing
May 7 2013 10:44AM
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chopper_whist
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There are many edits coming out that are super dope, but many of the edits being put out lack originality. The same classic tricks are thrown and the style of the skier and edit is the same. For me the edits that i enjoy are the ones that showcase different original tricks and an unique style. This is why i love the B&E show and real skifi because they are unique and interesting to watch.
May 7 2013 8:14PM
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-emile-
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WrekShit from The Bunch on Vimeo.

May 7 2013 8:23PM
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Z.J.H.
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currently making an edit and that article was depressing as fuck. Oh well i guess Danderson is just mad his shitty edits don't get as much attention.
May 7 2013 9:49PM
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knatman
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These were the days of sick edits

Fun Spring Day at Killington from The Gold Project on Vimeo.




, but not saying the edits nowadays suck. I still like them
May 7 2013 10:03PM
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CrotchKiller
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Jo-jo filmed and edited those, deanderson just uploaded them. but ya still don't agree at all. The same amount of banger edits are being produced, there is just way more bullshit mixed in
May 8 2013 12:39AM
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Spiri7o
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Sep 15 2013 6:55PM
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TijmenDal
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That was a poorly written piece of shit. Seriously. Whoever wrote that needs to learn how to use his brain.
Sep 15 2013 7:01PM
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steezyjibber
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the article is, simply, true as fuck. i have nothing else to say.
Sep 15 2013 7:02PM
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TijmenDal
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Really? You agree with what the guy says? How can you possbile do that... Anyone who's paid the slightest attention to what's been dropped the last two years can't possibly agree with this.
Sep 15 2013 7:05PM
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SkiBum.
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The creator of this thread is what that article was talking about. Some random fuck making sub par edits of skiing and editing ability and getting more views than it should.
Sep 15 2013 7:06PM
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TijmenDal
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Can't agree more
Sep 15 2013 7:06PM
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GayWolf420
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video section nerds.
Sep 15 2013 7:06PM
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Peachbutt
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Shamelessly didn't read through the whole thread, so sorry if this has already been said, but if it's an actual mind-blowing edit, it will definitely still have a huge impact on the industry and people who watch it.
Sep 15 2013 7:09PM
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steezyjibber
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Haha, yeah I agree.

Edits are having a dwindling ability to impress.

It's true. You see a new edit on the front page every day. A lot of them are very very similar.

In an effort to prove my point, I just checked out the top video on the home page. "Kyle Coxworth Sponsor Tape." Here's the link:

https://www.newschoolers.com/watch/657026.0/kyle-coxworth-sponsor-tape?c=11

Before even clicking it, I guessed it would be the most cookie cutter ski edit ever. And I was right. I'm not hating on the kid skiing, or the filming, or the editing. The skier killed it. All I'm saying is, I'll forget about that edit by tomorrow.

I agree with Mr. Bishop's comment in the comments section of that article:

"I think there is a seriously valid point here. I'm not sure if I totally agree with the way that it was presented, but there is validity.

Yes, I totally agree there are people pushing it - TC, Skifi, etc. There's lots of examples of groups injecting personality into their edits.

However, there is a massive wave of the "same ol' edit" that has been flooding the internet. More than anything else, the problem is the concept of the edit - which is just a short ski port clip - vs. the idea of an episode that develops a story more than just showcases tricks. "




And to sum this all up, I read your comment on that article"

"Wow, wasn't this an extremely poorly written article without any thought being put in. Seriously, use your fucking brain before you write something."

The article was actually decently written, and I guarantee the dude thought about it. Please, try to write an article proving whatever point you could possibly make. I would absolutely love to read it.
Sep 15 2013 7:20PM
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hot.pocket
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With more subpar edits coming out it really helps the good ones stand out even more. You're talking about a day when it seemed like 'only banger edits' were coming out.

Click for larger image

If you highlight everything then nothing is highlighted.

We need subpar edits so when the really good ones come out they are even more amazing.
Sep 15 2013 7:20PM
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danderson.
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Wow, this was a while ago. I never even knew a thread had been made. This was not my best writing so I'll try and make my point again. Nowadays, every other kid has a T2i or 7D and is out producing edits whereas a few years ago, only the people who knew what they were doing were making edits. Everything's become saturated. I can no longer keep track of the hundreds of edits that are dropping at a constant rate. An quality edit used to be a rare occurrence that would get everyone hyped up for a month or so until the next big edit dropped. Remember when NS used to count down for the next B&E show? The next Chug Life? Now instead of anxiously waiting for the next "big thing", there's a new top rated edit everyday with some unknown doing the same tricks the next person will in the next day's top rated edit. It's gotten out of hand.

The reason I know I'm right is because whenever there's a "Post your favorite edit" thread, no one ever posts an edit that's dropped in the last year or so. It's always the classic edits. Unfortunately, that era is over and so is the edit's ability to impress.

I just cranked those two paragraphs out so excuse any spelling or grammatical errors. I'm trying to simplify my point.
Sep 15 2013 7:23PM
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steezyjibber
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Yes. You are correct. Thank you.
Sep 15 2013 7:26PM
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