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Looking for a new camera

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mr_brown
Posts: 26 - Karma: 22
1) What is your budget? How much money can you spend right away, and do you think you can get more money to invest in the future?
under 700 for a body. I will invest in lenses once I have an idea of what camera to buy
2) What experience do you already have with cameras? Have you ever even used one before? Have you helped your friend out with his camera? Have you owned your own?
I have only personally owned a gopro but have had plenty of experience with dslr's and manual film cameras at school and skiing with a buddy's dslr
2) What gear, if any, do you currently have? (tripod, old camera lenses, mics, etc)
only a tripod
4) What are you planning to shoot and how do you want to use your camera? Are you going to use this with the sole purpose of shooting skiing? or do you think you might try other stuff as well (movies, documentaries, short films, etc)
80%  skiing and other sports but it will be 60% video/40% stills
5) Do you want a camera that you can hand to your friends, that could or could not have film experience, and let them shoot you? or will you be doing all the filming?
That would be good but I have friends with dslr experience
having the option to use auto focus would be a nice feature
6) When filming skiing, how do you tend to shoot? (follow cams, leave it on record on a tripod and hike, film from a tripod, etc) I don't do many follow cams but would like to do more of them.

7) What computer do you currently have/use to edit (if not currently editing, what would you most likely use)? If you can provide specifics, such as hard drive space, RAM, processor size, that would be great.
laptop- quad core i7 2.00ghz 8 gigs of ram 750 gig hdd with a radeon 6770m
7) What program do you currently edit on? How familiar are you with it (1- just learning; 10- I can make tutorials and know the keyboard layout)
sony vegas and an older adobe premier

Hey guy's Im looking for a new camera since my gopro is messed up and want to start taking some better images and video. I have done a little research into some camera's but don't know which ones are best for skiing (low light, image stabilized , etc) so am looking for your help, thanks in advance.
Apr 3 2013 5:30PM
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Bmo.
Posts: 4907 - Karma: 2,667
Well if you want photo and video then you gotta invest in a DSLR

Canon T2i/T3i/T4i
Tamron 17-50 2.8 or Canon 24mm 2.8 or 28mm 2.8 or WA vintage prime
Canon 50mm 1.8 or 1.4
Manfrotto 055x legs
Manfrotto 701hdv head

That is a good start, depending on prices that setup would range between 800-1200

Future pieces to add:
Telephoto lens
Glidecam
Videomic


pretty typical NS starter setup


Apr 3 2013 6:36PM
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.qzyxya
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Totally agree on you with the 17-50 and the t2i and that, however I think the glidecam is one of the most important parts of the setup and I would 100% rather have a t2i + kit lens with a glidecam than a 17-50 2.8 + t2i and no stabilization. Also, please don't get the t4i. Total waste of money.
for the 50mm 1.8 you'd probably be better off with a takumar 50mm or some other vintage 50mm 1.4 prime, since its cheaper (~$50 as far as I've seen) and better for video.
Apr 3 2013 6:43PM
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mr_brown
Posts: 26 - Karma: 22
Thank you for the suggestion, my local camera store has a good deal on both the Canon t3i and Sony a57 any thoughts on the a57?
Apr 3 2013 6:51PM
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Bmo.
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>Tripod should come before glidecam
>Why would you even suggest the kit lens?
>if he's interested in getting into photography as well, he is not gonna wanna start on a manual focus 50mm, especially for skiing
Apr 3 2013 6:53PM
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mr_brown
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I do not plan to use the kit lens so there is really no point in having it. Once I buy the lenses I want I don't think I will ever use it. Also I already have a tripod so there is no need to get one. A glide cam would be nice but  I don't think I really need it yet at least untill I start getting used tot he camera and come across some more money.
Apr 3 2013 7:13PM
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.qzyxya
Posts: 1479 - Karma: -26
I use a manual focus 50mm and it works great for photography. Obviously if op needs auto focus he won't get it but they're a lot better for video work. For skiing honestly I think glidecam matters more than the tripod. Get a glidecam and a cheap shitty tripod for still shots. I think a good tripod matters more than a lot of other gear, but you really don't need to have a fluid head that much (imo at least, maybe you shoot all telephoto and need smooth pans, idk). He obviously isn't going to be that limited by budget, and I didn't really suggest it as a viable option, but I was saying I'd much rather have a glidecam and no 17-50 than just a 17-50 and shooting handheld. Don't be so condescending dude.
Apr 3 2013 7:27PM
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.qzyxya
Posts: 1479 - Karma: -26
I guess if OP doesn't want to do follow cams a glidecam doesn't matter, but 90% of people filming skiing want to be able to shoot follow cams. Not that many need to do good smooth pans on tripods, or be able to get good steady shots with telephoto lenses.
Apr 3 2013 7:28PM
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mr_brown
Posts: 26 - Karma: 22
I definitely want some sort of glide cam eventually but right now I want to focus on the actual thing that's going to be shooting the shots...
Apr 3 2013 7:33PM
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.qzyxya
Posts: 1479 - Karma: -26
eh, a glidecam shot with the kit lens is going to look much better than a handheld shot with a 17-50. Plus when you have it shooting outdoors skiing in the sun, you're going to have them at F8 or so, so both are going to be pretty sharp looking. But if you can get he 17-50 and the glidecam. It probably would be best to not get the kit, since you're going to end up selling it later. But if you only have that certain amount of money to afford one of them, the glidecam is more important I'd say.
Apr 3 2013 9:15PM
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CrotchKiller
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shut up already

tripod>glidecam every day of the fucking week
Apr 3 2013 9:25PM
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CrotchKiller
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fuck

tripod
Apr 3 2013 9:26PM
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.qzyxya
Posts: 1479 - Karma: -26
To each his own but I know I use my glidecam 80% of the time and the tripod maybe 15% (slider 5%) so I value it much higher than the tripod. Some people prefer using tripods and some prefer glidecams I don't think its one is necessarily better than the other. But as I said OP might just not want to shoot follow cams so then don't get a glidecam. But I think most people on NS shoots follow cams more than they do tripod shots, but its personal preference. Shut up already its an opinion.
Apr 3 2013 9:35PM
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CrotchKiller
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Just because you use your glidecam more then your tripod doesn't mean you should go around telling people to buy a glidecam first.

A tripod makes it possible to learn and experiment so much more with shot composition and filming styles.

" Shut up already its an opinion."

When your opinion misleads other people it becomes a problem.
Apr 3 2013 9:52PM
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.qzyxya
Posts: 1479 - Karma: -26
The majority of people who film skiing are going to do follow cams first so I think a glidecam would be the best option, but as I already said it depends on what he actually wants to film. He can probably just buy both of them anyways. Its possible to learn and experiment with shot composition and filming styles, but does he actually want to do that? How could I know. This whole argument is stupid. Its all up to what he wants personally not what you or I think he wants...
Plus its your opinion that being able to experiment with composition and filming styles is a better thing than being able to do good follow cams and mobile shots
Apr 3 2013 9:58PM
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CrotchKiller
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I'm done arguing with you, find a top notch filmer anywhere in the world who got a glidecam before a tripod.
Apr 3 2013 10:05PM
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Bmo.
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This I have up
Apr 3 2013 10:19PM
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.qzyxya
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Top notch filmer? We're talking about filming skiing. All I'm saying is that not everybody necessarily needs a tripod more than a glidecam, especially in skiing. If you don't have time/riders don't want to stop and hike each feature and set up a tripod then get a glidecam... Or if you/they do then get a tripod. Who cares. How can you know what the op wants to do with it. That's like saying you need a telephoto, a midrange zoom, a wide angle, and some primes, no matter what. Yeah its probably going to be the best setup overall but its not taking into consideration how they actually shoot and if they want a telephoto, or wide angle or whatever else.
Apr 4 2013 7:07AM
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Lemuel
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Don't forget about other camera brands! Panasonic GH2 is a fantastic option if you will be filming alot. If I were going to purchase my first DSLR right now, I would buy a GH2. I use a Pentax KR, definitely more of a photography camera, but my video footage can come out looking fantastic, even at only 720 25fps. Pentax now has the K30 which will do quite better than my KR. I'm one of, if not the only, Pentax fan on here. Reasoning? Well built cameras (weather resistant), fantastic glass.
Apr 5 2013 10:27AM
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mr_brown
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I have not forgot about the other brands at all. I looked at the K-30 it looks fantastic but just out of my price range and it does not have an external mic jack which I would like to have. Same with the GH-2 I just can't spend that much right now
Apr 5 2013 8:36PM
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Bergman
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Did you even read ops post? He already has a fucking tripod. None the less, both valid points, don't go dropping big bucks on a tripod (cheap ftw) unless you plan to use a tripod alot. HOWEVER a tripod is definitely great to learn how to use the camera and fiddle with it and chances are you will use it eventually in an actual shoot.
Apr 7 2013 5:10PM
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