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08/09 hellbents vs. 09/10

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jmasterp
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I've read that these are virtually unchanged year to year, but is the flex the same, I love the 09/10 flex, but found a pair of 08/09s.
Mar 20 2013 5:20PM
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jmasterp
Posts: 1976 - Karma: 233
Basically, are the 08/09 bents the same as 09/10, or are they stiffer?
Mar 20 2013 5:20PM
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jmasterp
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Bump
Mar 20 2013 7:09PM
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jmasterp
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Anyone?
Mar 20 2013 8:53PM
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.nasty
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both are pieces of shit.
Mar 20 2013 9:04PM
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.nasty
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but yes they're exactly the same
Mar 20 2013 9:04PM
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snakerton
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exactly the same and they are good skis
Mar 20 2013 9:35PM
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.nasty
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only if you've never ski'd anything else maybe. lol

they're heavy, too soft for the weight, and a completely outdated design.
Mar 20 2013 10:02PM
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snakerton
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theyre playful, float like crazy and butters for dayz
Mar 20 2013 10:09PM
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jmasterp
Posts: 1976 - Karma: 233
That's what I'm looking for, I have new lifes, which are light and stiff. Now I want some really soft playful skis, because as pointed out by one of my buds, I always talk about how my h I want a super playful ski, but I always end up getting super stiff skis, because I like to ski aggressively. Now, I'm going for some buttery sticks.
Mar 20 2013 10:12PM
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snakerton
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its the right way to go. Other options are the bentchetler, opus and jj
Mar 21 2013 12:06AM
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El_Barto.
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Or you like a big buttery ski that makes you grin from ear to ear. Fun is never outdated
Mar 21 2013 1:17AM
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iffe
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If you bought Hellbents and expected them to be stiff charger skis, then you're an idiot.

They're huge, floppy, floaty butter machines. If that's what you like then they're great skis. Though I would argue that EP Pros do the same thing but weigh a lot less.
Mar 21 2013 7:11AM
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jmasterp
Posts: 1976 - Karma: 233
how do bacons compare to the EP pros? What year did they each get a little stiffer?
Mar 21 2013 9:02AM
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iffe
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Completely 100% different kind of ski. And so are the Opus.

2011 EP Pro (the last one) is when they got a bit stiffer. All the older ones are super soft and fun. Bacons got redesigned for the 2010/2011 season (rocker) and then again for the 2011/2012 season (narrower waist). They have always been considerably stiffer than EPs. I would compare the Bacons to skis like the Armada JJ.
Mar 21 2013 9:09AM
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jmasterp
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New question, what's the flex of the 2010 obsethed like, compared to bents?
Mar 26 2013 9:05PM
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snakerton
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A little stiffer but not much. That obsethed is way more versitile though. I skied it on a hard pack day a whister and it went everywhere. It charges through crud. I really like it but its a little heavy
Mar 26 2013 10:53PM
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jmasterp
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Thanks, how does the rocker compare?
Mar 27 2013 12:05PM
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iffe
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Tip rocker is similar, tail rocker is smaller on the Seths.
Mar 27 2013 12:33PM
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snakerton
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yeah huge tip rocker but almost no rocker in the tail.
Mar 27 2013 6:04PM
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jmasterp
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New question, what is the flex of a 2010 EP pro vs. a 2010 hellbent?
Mar 29 2013 12:15AM
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El_Barto.
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I think very similar. I had a buddy with 2010 ep pros and they seemed the same as my 2010 bents. Never skied em though
Mar 29 2013 12:24AM
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iffe
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This is coming from someone who has skied the Hellbents and owned the EP Pros:

Very similar. The EP Pros are a bit softer maybe. If you're considering between these two skis, go with the EPs. They're lighter and just... better.
Mar 29 2013 3:13AM
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jmasterp
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Thanks everyone!
Mar 29 2013 9:30AM
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