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Line Chronic Center mount?

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Dz_Nutz
Posts: 81 - Karma: 34
Im going to be getting line chronic skis but the ski shop always tells me not to center mount even though i ski park. is this BS or am i wrong?
Feb 24 2013 9:10PM
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Cotter
Posts: 2546 - Karma: 849
I center mounted mine and it was fine.
Feb 24 2013 9:13PM
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Dz_Nutz
Posts: 81 - Karma: 34
ok thanks i think all the employees at the shop are racer so they dont know a lot about park ha

Feb 25 2013 6:42AM
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BlackcountryBill
Posts: 955 - Karma: 576
Mount then back. Maybe not +4 but 2 or 3, they'll be better.
Feb 25 2013 7:00AM
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andybob
Posts: 474 - Karma: 35
I had a lengthy discussion about this with the shop tech when I got mine mounted.

Since they aren't a "true twin" (same measurements back to front) he said might feel a little funny when ripping groomers. Since I like to ride groomers some days and lap the park other days, I mounted them -2 from dead center. Seems to be a good balance. It seems like -2 is the sweet spot for Chronics from all the threads on here about mounting them, but it just comes down to what you want.
Feb 25 2013 9:22AM
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broski123
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i have my chroncs center mounted and there sick
Feb 25 2013 10:29AM
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Lemuel
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I always say if you are going within 3cm, go all the way. I had my cryps mounted center and they slayed groomers.
Feb 25 2013 1:17PM
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russ.bar
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I've had two pairs of chronics because of how much i liked them and i mounted both at -2 and greatly enjoy it. I ride them for a fair share of all mountain and groomers though so if you are going for heavy amounts of time in the park center would be a perfectly fine choice as well.
Feb 25 2013 6:28PM
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Balbertt
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You had to copy my name didnt ya nate?
Feb 25 2013 8:05PM
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Gameday
Posts: 274 - Karma: 89
I have marker Schizo's so I can move mine around and I would suggest -2 Cuz they definitely don't carve as well at center and when they are back a little then they carve better but don't really notice a difference in the park
Feb 25 2013 8:06PM
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Park_Mho
Posts: 351 - Karma: 390
I core centered mine, so for 171 cm it is around -1 cm from true center. Love mine!!! Next year, Im trying for all out true center. As the ski gets bigger, it makes it more tolerable to true center mounting.
Feb 25 2013 8:06PM
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m.dizzle
Posts: 298 - Karma: 67
If you're skiing more than 50% park, definitely go with a true center mount. If you're serious about park, anything other than center will not be enough. You need it for even swing weight, balance, and switch stability.

If you're only taking a few casual park laps, -2 or so will be fine for screwing around. It will help with groomers, but in all honesty, if you're a good downhill skier, you'll be able to rip hard pack even on a center mounted ski.

tl;dr: If you're truly a park skier, true center mount. Most shops don't know shit about park.
Feb 25 2013 8:14PM
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JWeinstock
Posts: 3439 - Karma: 1,352
mine are dead center. love them on rails and still kill on groomers.
Feb 25 2013 9:59PM
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DannyWarley
Posts: 120 - Karma: 433
Mine are dead centre and I wouldn't want them anywhere else
Mar 18 2013 1:59PM
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Phommy
Posts: 107 - Karma: 95
Center bro. You can still kill it all mtn
Mar 18 2013 9:36PM
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iffe
Posts: 984 - Karma: 120
Bullshit.

I ski park with my Chronics at -2, my friend has his at -1.5. We have both had multiple center-mounted park skis and we agree that with non-symmetrical skis, mounting a bit behind true center feels a lot better for everything. 2 cm is not gonna mess with your swing weight or balance, but it will make the skis feel a lot more predictable, stable and better at carving. These things are not important just on groomers, but also when landing jumps for example.

OP: -2 is the ticket to pleasuretown
Mar 19 2013 3:31AM
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seabs
Posts: 38 - Karma: 58
I would think that for skiing switch a lot It would make more sense to center mount the ski, and agree with the longer the ski the more it depends, I got the 185 and I'll be center mounting them for sure
Mar 19 2013 1:49PM
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iffe
Posts: 984 - Karma: 120
Care to back this up a bit? Because I would think it's the other way round: the longer the ski, the less it matters (balance-wise) if you don't mount center.

Let's say you have two pairs of the same skis, 160 cm and 180 cm. You mount both at 2 cm behind true center. Now, on the 160 cm pair, the difference between the center mount and -2 mount is 1.25% of the ski's length. However, on the 180 cm pair the difference is just 1.1%. So if anything, mounting away from the true center matters LESS on longer skis.

Of course, if you wanted perfect weight distribution you would have to take additional factors into consideration: with non-symmetrical skis, the nose is usually wider and therefore heavier than the tail. Also the heel piece of the bindings is usually heavier than the toe piece. Now this leads to some pretty complex analysis before mounting, so I'm not gonna go there any further.

Also why would you even want the weight to be distributed evenly around your boot midsole? In a normal skiing stance, your weight will be on the ball of the foot, which is in front of the midsole. If anything, you should mount so that the ball of the foot is in the centre of the ski.
Mar 19 2013 2:28PM
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Anti_Steeze
Posts: 1465 - Karma: 81
the other thing to consider too is that the rocker profile of the Chronic is not symmetrical (the tip has more rocker than the tail, obviously) so center mounting a Chronic will actually give you less running length/effective edge in front of your foot than behind it. I'm no expert or anything but I don't think I have ever seen a ski that had longer tails than tips.


-2 from center.
Mar 19 2013 4:30PM
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Park_Mho
Posts: 351 - Karma: 390
flex is 100% symmetric though...
Mar 20 2013 5:35PM
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foodbuffet11
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If you are going to ski park for most of the season I urge you to center-mount. Center mounting skis, more so with a symmetrical pair will crave rails and urban features. Traditional mounting, personally will throw your momentum off when u spin. In any case, I believe you should center mount them even though they are not symmetrical. I center mounted my k2 recoils and never look back. Take command and don't let people make decisions for you.
Mar 20 2013 5:45PM
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DrZoidberg
Posts: 5675 - Karma: 4,269
Lol, I ski mine at -3 and they're totally fine, old skinny chronics at that. 166cm. They ski switch great too, I've been doing a ton of switch carving, it feels better then forwards sometimes.
Mar 21 2013 12:10AM
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freeskibum82
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quoted for truth.
Mar 21 2013 8:45AM
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SwaggerAsFucc
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Center mount them. or else it'll be harder to slide rails with more ski on one side than the other
Mar 21 2013 3:06PM
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Calb3rt
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I always mounted my chronics dead center as they were my park skis.  One pair i mounted +1 or 2cm from center and they slayed the park just as well.
It is all about personal preference, the longer/ shorter ski for balance debate going on here is bunk as of now.. a tenth of a percent would equate to a negligible difference in the performance of the ski. The pretty complex analysis will depend more the height of the skier than the if the heel piece is heavier than the toe. A tight rope walker is not going to use a plastic straw to balance, granted neither with they hold a 10ft pole anywhere but in the middle. im not trying to rabble rouse or anything here, i dont really care either way. everyone is different, there is no use getting offended because someone else mounts the same skis that you have, in a different spot. If it works for you, great. if not not, you will get used to it, and if you cant get used to it then remount them, it isn't quantum mechanics. there is almost ten years of threads on center mounting chronics and it still gets heated...
Mar 22 2013 1:07PM
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theblackrod
Posts: 2162 - Karma: 575
+3 cm forward.
Mar 22 2013 2:27PM
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LC.
Posts: 5952 - Karma: 2,423
5 to 10mm back of centre, unless your bindings are dead flat and your boots are very upright.
Mar 22 2013 2:39PM
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iffe
Posts: 984 - Karma: 120
Hahah yeah, the whole percentages, binding weights and weight distribution post was more of a humorous way to show that the guy i responded to was talking out of his ass.
Mar 23 2013 2:53AM
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virgin
Posts: 182 - Karma: 91
I just got my chronics and the "center" line seems to be far from center. Should I just measure the true center myself or stick it to "center"? I'll be riding almost 100% park with them.
Nov 20 2013 12:17PM
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Cotter
Posts: 2546 - Karma: 849
Go to the shop, say you want them dead center.
Nov 20 2013 4:47PM
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virgin
Posts: 182 - Karma: 91
I don't have a shop anywhere near me and I need them mounted for tomorrow
Nov 20 2013 11:12PM
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