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Flatspin Vs backflip

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Dubey
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what would be easier to learn first backflip or flat 3??? I can do them both perfect on tramps. And what size of jump?? thanks.
Feb 19 2013 9:14PM
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50Kal
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Backflip into powder.
Feb 19 2013 9:33PM
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alvy.
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Triples
Feb 19 2013 9:33PM
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roddy116
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Feb 19 2013 9:45PM
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whateverman
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pussy shit, quad 2160 or gtfo
Feb 19 2013 9:54PM
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Ben_Mo-Fat
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90's
Feb 19 2013 10:09PM
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.Brink.
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I would say backflips are easier, I learned on a windlip into powder which is the easiest way. But any small-medium jump with a steep lip will work just make sure u have a soft landing and commit to it.
Feb 19 2013 10:29PM
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whateverman
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The trick is completely personal preference. Flat 3s are harder, backflips are scarier, pick what your comfortable with. The jump should be nothing more than a chest high kicker that gives you a second of air time.
Feb 19 2013 10:47PM
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johnnyBuz
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Is a Flat Spin the same thing as a side flip? I never really understand the names and so many things look similar.
Feb 20 2013 12:54AM
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.Brink.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzfEf2odpPg
Feb 20 2013 1:03AM
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Stickity
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a sideflip is a lincoln. flats are pretty different
Feb 20 2013 1:09AM
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johnnyBuz
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Thanks. Comments on youtube are all over the place -- someone does a trick and 5 different comments say 5 different tricks.
Feb 20 2013 1:51AM
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k-fred
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finally someone posted a good vid of a flat, not some wackflip bullshit or some rodeos
Feb 20 2013 1:52AM
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johnnyBuz
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Great vid -- looks much different than most other Flat videos I've seen. Gonna have to try that on an air bag soon.
Feb 20 2013 2:02AM
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JStrathern
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I would pretty much never listen to the comments on videos like that on YouTube, they're almost always completely wrong
Feb 20 2013 2:19AM
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Reister
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And here it is

Feb 20 2013 4:37AM
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sNaubi
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i did two rodeo 3's the day before my first backflip
Feb 20 2013 4:47AM
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.Brink.
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thanks +k

Feb 20 2013 10:56AM
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sNaubi
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isn't sideflip(or tunnelflip on skis) a rodeo 3?

I thougt lincoln was like a croked backflip, at least it is on a trampoline :s
Feb 20 2013 12:33PM
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.Brink.
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no and no. a rodeo three would be a backlflip while doing a 360. A lincoln is flipping directly to your right or left with no spins. No such thing as a "sideflip" you probably mean underflip
Feb 20 2013 12:44PM
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JStrathern
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That would be a d-spin 7 or back full. A "rodeo 3" doesn't really exist, I guess you could call a backflip a rodeo 3. These kinds of threads are always a mess.
Feb 20 2013 1:30PM
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FroesenSkeeze
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Flatspins are harder, but they look better. I need to learn flats yet. Get the backflip into your bag of tricks first if you haven't done one though. Good luck.
Feb 20 2013 2:17PM
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Juseski
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Flatspins are harder but backflips really are scarier but i found it easier to grow balls to try backflip when i tried and landed flatspins before.
Feb 20 2013 2:46PM
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johnnyBuz
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Should you start tilting your shoulder towards the lip before you leave the jump? I can do side flips (I also call them Matrix flips from Neo in matrix) on tramp but a little unsure how to throw it on snow.
Feb 20 2013 2:52PM
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.Brink.
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by side flip do you mean lincoln loop or a flatspin? this is a lincoln and Im guessing its what your talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr3rwQ7Du_s

solid pop, dip the shoulder and wait for the rotation to come around, dipping your shoulder before the lip will probably cause you problems because you will be off balance when you start the rotation. It really comes down to what feels best though, if you can do it on a tramp you can do it on snow, It just take more commitment.
Feb 20 2013 3:05PM
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edai
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I learned backflips then flat 3s shortly afterwards. My friend Tanner learned flat 3s then backflips short afterwards. The two go hand in hand it's really just personal preferance as stated above. Do what feels easier.
Feb 20 2013 3:09PM
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johnnyBuz
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Yah I guess I mean Lincoln Loop. So should I follow the same process as a backflip -- pop first and delay in the air for that first quarter to a half of a second before initiating the flip?

I guess on a tramp you do the same thing, you get your "air" aka pop delay just a half second and then throw it. I'm guessing you don't need as big of a lip as a back either since the skis are coming back to your feet quicker in theory?
Feb 20 2013 3:11PM
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.Brink.
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yea exactly you want to pop and set your rotation in almost the same movement. Like you said you have a little more leeway to underrotate because you wont catch your tips but its still gonna hurt if you come down hard on your side.
Feb 20 2013 3:16PM
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johnnyBuz
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Sweet man. +k when I'm off mobile.
Feb 20 2013 3:34PM
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