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FKS/Pivot Questions

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No.Quarter
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I have heard great things about fks/pivot bindings, but I have also heard some negatives such as being a pain in the ass to get back in after ejecting in pow or chunder and that the toe piece on the 140 isn't very durable. Can anyone share their experiences with this?
Feb 18 2013 5:38PM
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No.Quarter
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And also are the non replaceable brakes a big problem if they break?
Feb 18 2013 5:41PM
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Jaggy_Snake
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That's just a rumor. Or you're a pussy.
Feb 18 2013 5:44PM
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No.Quarter
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bump

Feb 18 2013 7:02PM
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dross250
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easy to clip into,durable as hell and saved me many times from tweaking my knees and ankles. thats coming from use of the fks180s on my pow sticks n 140s on my park and im 6'4 220lbs
Feb 18 2013 7:15PM
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SamtheEagle
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My friend takes winter from school off to compete in park competitions and he said he has actually had better luck with the 140's than 180's. Personally I only have experiance with the 140's and love them
Feb 18 2013 7:18PM
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jca
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as long as you take the 10 seconds to brush the snow out of the binding and whack it off your boot(like you should with every other binding), they're very easy to put on in pow.

the 140 toe piece really isn't that durable and doesn't have as much elastic travel as the 180, but i'd say they're no less durable than any other plastic toe piece.

if you're too light for the 180 but want the durability and elastic travel of the 180 toe piece, look for some of the older 155s which have the metal toe piece but lower DIN. you can find em pretty cheap on old slalom skis on ebay.

as for the brakes, you have to take the binding off the ski and take the baseplate off to switch them. it's not super hard but kind of annoying. i've never broken a pair of fks brakes (or any other parts on my two pairs) in the 6 years ive been using them though and that includes self bent brakes.

fks's are by far my favourite binding though and i dont plan on trusting any other binding inbounds anytime soon.
Feb 18 2013 8:22PM
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bigbromskier
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sick binding! super durable and solid and you'll probably really only 'need' the 180 if you're a pretty big guy shredding hard.

the only annoying thing is the heel piece doesn't stay down as easily as other bindings like the px or axials do. it's like they're spring loaded so if you step on it with your ski/boot to take if off they, more likely than not, spring back up after you get your boot out. not a big deal and shouldn't affect if you buy or not, but thought I'd note it anyway.
Feb 18 2013 9:35PM
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fragglemuffin
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Pretty much sums everything up perfectly. I'm in love with my metal 155's
Feb 18 2013 9:58PM
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Chubz.
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I plan on buying a pair fks/pivots for a pair of jmos next season..one question though..im 6' 245, should i get the 180s because im a bigger dude? But i live in new york so i wont really be "charging" hard haha
Feb 18 2013 9:58PM
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ARMADAR7
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I have the 140s and love them, they really are not that hard to get in an out of and as far as toepiece durability i have had no issues, something to consider is, are you really that hard core of a skier to the point where you could break even a middle of the market toe piece? I don't say that to be rude because maybe you are but i think people tend to over hype themselves to justify spending more on gear. I have never in person actually see a toe pice on any binding that broke because the plastic failed, and i have only seen a few on this site that i can only imagine were the result of a manufacturing defect that could easily be replaced by the manufacturer under the warranty, toepieces are meant to release you when put under stress so it is extremely hard for them to break
Feb 18 2013 10:17PM
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Vino
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+ you always get the '' dude your bindings are broken '' question from gapers/park noobs

then you can claim your fks'
Feb 18 2013 10:22PM
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I_liketobutter
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if you have to ask, 140's. Or the old 155's, great binding.

There really aren't that many people who need a din over 12 and ski at a level where destroying the 140 toepiece is possible.
Feb 18 2013 11:45PM
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No.Quarter
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+k to everyone and thank you for the help.
Feb 18 2013 11:49PM
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Huck_Norris
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Spray them once a week or so with this shit and wipe off the excess, snow will never stick in them. 

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=WD40+silicone+lubricant+&qs=n&form=QBIR&pq=wd40+silicone+lubricant+&sc=1-24&sp=-1&sk=#

Feb 19 2013 9:33AM
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DeRizzo
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How do you guys think the FKS 140's would compare to the STH 14 durability-wise. Sorry for thread jack.
Feb 19 2013 9:56AM
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fragglemuffin
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I've never ridden STH's myself, but I've seen friends break them from time to time, as well as pre-release in them. That being said, I've never seen FKS's break, even the plastic 140's (besides the breaks, which like to snap off). Besides durability and security, what I believe sets FKS's apart the most is how short the mounting pattern is. Most bindings like the STH's and PX series bindings have a longer heel piece platform that while allowing you to adjust the binding to accommodate several BSLs, usually puts a "dead spot" in the ski because the binding stops it from flexing as much. FKS's however, have a short heel piece that doesn't really affect the flex (The only issue is that they don't have too much adjustability in regards to fitting different boot sizes).
Feb 19 2013 10:48AM
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No.Quarter
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Haha not a threadjack, those are the exact bindings i am looking at other than the fks
Feb 19 2013 11:01AM
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No.Quarter
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Just a heads up fks 140 and sth 14 driver are on sale on evo right now. Fks for price of sth14 and sth14 for the price of the 12!
Feb 19 2013 11:22AM
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