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Momentum, Windells or Camp of Champions

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Blynch2
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I understand this is about the 1 billionth thread created on this topic. I search barred and googled, looked at 10+ threads but I still have yet to find which is best. There have been so many different answers. I just got into park (I can only 3 and 5) and I want a camp where I can progress a lot and also have lots of fun. Thank you +k for answers
Jan 30 2013 8:55PM
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Blynch2
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Also don't factor in money. It's my birthday present and I'm aloud to go to whatever camp I want.
Jan 30 2013 8:57PM
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BASEDRILEY
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ur stupid as fuck there is a search bar for a reason u fucking idiot. I hope ur parents don't let u go now u sad sack of shit. /thread
Jan 30 2013 8:58PM
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Bread_Fish
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mochampells
Jan 30 2013 8:58PM
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Chubz.
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OH YEAH?

WELL FOR MY BIRTHDAY MY PARENTS BOUGHT ME A BRAND NEW CHEVY TAHOE WITH A SKI RACK AND LET ME BUY LIKE 5 NEW SKIS.

I ALSO GET TO GO WINDELLS FOR THE WHOLE ENTIRE SUMMER BECAUSE IM JUST THAT FUCKING RICH. I ALSO GOT TO BUY WHATEVER SAGA JACKET I WANTED AND A FD JACKET SO I COULD BITCH ON NS ABOUT IT BEING SHITTY SO I SEEM COOL.




YEAH. WHAT.
Jan 30 2013 8:59PM
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Blynch2
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Alright, if nobody wants to give me a legitimate answer then just let this thread die
Jan 30 2013 9:03PM
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gups53
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mhssc
Jan 30 2013 9:08PM
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Ski_Alot
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this
Jan 30 2013 9:16PM
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Z-PAULY.
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You show OP
Jan 30 2013 11:52PM
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Saga.
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windells. duh
Jan 31 2013 12:02AM
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TACO-DOG.exe
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don't let an orange name sway you from the truth.

momentum is much better.
Jan 31 2013 12:09AM
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TheBigApple
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High North Duh
Jan 31 2013 12:10AM
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Magnetic
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http://www.wellspringcamps.com/google_wlc/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=ppc&utm_campaign=googlewlc&utm_id=&gclid=CPqm35fwkbUCFa5DMgodajsAMQ

wellsprings wieghtloss duh
Jan 31 2013 12:37AM
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Saga.
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not just an orange name. saga has 20+ combined years working with windells. theyve always been good to us and we love working with them. we have more than enough fun every summer in welches/mt hood. we couldnt think of a better way to spend our summers than at windells.

then again it is just an opinion.
Jan 31 2013 12:43AM
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AndyGreen
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Out of those 3 I would chose momentum. But if I was to go to any it would be mhssc
Jan 31 2013 12:48AM
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BASEDRILEY
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 so you are buyest. dont listen to this windells is the worst option
Jan 31 2013 12:58AM
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LAME.
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Honestly man, ive been to summer ski camp before, and really no matter which one you chose, youll have the time of your life. This is just my 2 cents on what ive experienced and heard.

Momentum-

Biggest thing momentum has going for them is their private T-bar, this allows you to lap quickly, and ski til youre dead, only downside is that the lane is so steep, so you only get a couple hits in. Other than that diggers work unbelievably hard setting features, and changing things best for campers.

Skiing 7/10
accommodation 10/10 but its in a hotel, so you cant get to rowdy


Windells

Windells park always looks unreal, big jumps, fun rail options, only thing is, you need to ride the rope tow, which in my personal experience is slow and all around not a fun time. Also windells usually packed with pros, which means more pro hoeing, but a busier park, so the choice is yours

Skiing 8.5/10
accommodation 7.5/10

Apparently after skiiing at windells is boring as shit, and if you dont skate, there not much to do except jack off.


Camp of champions


COC's park is BY FAR the best summer park in the world, Their XL jump line is always mint, they have tons of rail options and its groomed every night unlike windells, and Momentum. Only shitty thing is COC shares a T-bar with the public lane, and the race camp, which means 10-15 minute lift lines.

skiing 10/10
accomodation 7/10 (at coc you stay in the staff housing which youre basically allowed to trash, skate in the hallways, put holes in the walls, its cool)


Hope this helped, have fun at summer camp!
Jan 31 2013 1:22AM
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Saga.
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biased* and yes we may be but the numerous members of our team that return to windells, and not one of the other camps, year after year to ski and work aewnt. also theres a reason everyone trues to poach windells in the summer. they have the best, most easily accesible and fastest lapped park in the northern hemisphere in the summer.

p.s. still just an opinion, not facts
Jan 31 2013 2:54AM
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CaroSauve
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try them all $$$$
Jan 31 2013 3:27AM
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p-fo
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Yeah, "best" is an opinion by definition. I think MHSSC is the illest, but then again I work there. Rep yo Hood!
Jan 31 2013 3:42AM
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hamtaro
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you'll have fun anywhere, i mean ski camp during the summer sounds sick.
but COC has a really nice campus and campers get to stay in the holiday inn at the center of the village this year which is a plus!
Jan 31 2013 3:51AM
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QuinnBestwick
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Mt hood summer ski camps is the way to go. I have spent three summers there its the tits

1. the chillest coaches out (nolan, maks, and shea flynn)

2. uh ski racers have the nicest asses so spending time at camps tight.

3. Typically are biggest jump is 70+ feet and the tiniest one like 8

4. The cost of 2 sessions at mhssc cost about the same as one session at another camp because there always free drinks and food at mhssc. I say this because ive heard windells charges kids to get drinks and snacks. (no evidence from me though)

5. The two illest down rails on hood for proof just watch some of "Mcslay"s videos

6. the camp kinda lets you do whatever you want

7. real coaching instead of you just riding behind a pro and when you ask them for help they just tell you to pop more

8. Tramp sessions after skiing are sick typically crew of twenty kids snaking the fuck out of eachother for the tramp

9. you get to govy which means you can get the mary J

10. The ski racers asses.

Jan 31 2013 8:39AM
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roddy116
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ehhhh windells is pretty fucking sick, if you get the right coach you learn a lot.
Jan 31 2013 8:43AM
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404404
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Never seen 20+ years post before....

Saga can we get some of your athletes to make a video about how much they LOVE Windell's. Maybe ask Steve or Collin to make a short 30 second video about why they think Windells is better then any other camp? I mean they would all have NO problems considering,

" theyve always been good to us and we love working with them. we have more than enough fun every summer in welches/mt hood. we couldnt think of a better way to spend our summers than at windells. "

And it sounds like you speech for all the Saga riders so lets see it!!!!!
Jan 31 2013 10:34AM
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Brightwood
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Someone sounds butt hurt.
Jan 31 2013 12:08PM
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Shifties4Dayz
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Definitely go to windells. I've been to both windells and COC. COC is cool, but the windells is a much funner place if you're under 21, seeing as that there is nowhere to go, as COC has whistler village. The coaches at windells also seem way more stoked on teaching and a actually around off the hill to hang out n shit. Windells also has a dope as indoor and outdoor skate park and tramps and a foam pit. Go to windells. It's also cheaper I think.
Jan 31 2013 12:27PM
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gups53
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dont you work at windells?
Jan 31 2013 4:24PM
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RagingBuffalo
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No, dont you know he's one of those prefessional twintipers! he's on straightline skis! i hear hes real good too!
Jan 31 2013 4:31PM
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gups53
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gtfo
Jan 31 2013 4:34PM
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Thadius.Castle
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Didn't even know Saga has been around for 20+ years, time lapse perhaps?
Jan 31 2013 4:35PM
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johnnyBuz
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What if you are over 21? I just want a camp this summer where my coach will only care about helping me progress. Sure I want to have fun, but I don't want it to be too laid back like "you tried your best that's all we can ask for." Fuck that -- I want a coach that will be like "hike back up that fucking hill and hit it again, only this time do X, Y, Z different and you'll stomp it,"
Feb 2 2013 10:00PM
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curt_
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dont be a fool, momentum is always cool. its the shit; awesome coaches, dedicated diggers, fast laps for days, and alot of babes on vacation to be seen in the village!
Feb 2 2013 10:27PM
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Blynch2
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Thanks everyone for replying. It seems like I'll have a blast at any camp. Right now I'm leaning towards windells and momentum.
Feb 2 2013 11:29PM
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theTRIBE101
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loved momentum, really good vibes and everything was beyond expectations. also, you get to roam around the village which is fun
Feb 2 2013 11:35PM
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CampofChampions
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Take a look at COC and check the park. 3 times bigger than any other park. More space means more features. we had over 80 hits, lines, jumps, rails, jibs last year. Our park has a huge hike a rail area we call "Quebec" that is stuffed with rails that you don't need to lap on a lift. Yeah, the lift lines get a little long when Momentum takes an hour out of your day to go eat lunch in the lodge before knocking off for the day a half hour earlier than COC. We ride 1.5 hours a day in a 3 times larger park with no space taken up with Moguls or Halfpipe.

At COC you don't have to do side slip laps at the start of the day and end of the day to "groom" the park that merely smooths out the braking bumps that are in the landing of every feature due to the steepness of the park and the lack of nightly grooming. You don't read about that on their website. (Also it's more learning time taken out of your day) At COC we have our entire park groomed by snowcat every single night so that when you roll up with your coach first thing in the morning, you can hit it a perfectly groomed park right off the bat.During the day our professional dig crew makes sure the park stays perfect. Momentum sideslips morning and night, and grooms every third day. Not what we'd call a grooming program. All the camps are expensive so you might as well get as much as possible for the money you've spent. The quality of our park is why the coaches getting paid by other camps come to ride with us every chance they get.

The US Slopestyle Freeskiing Team, The NZ Team and other teams chose COC as their summer training partner. The AFP World Tour has selected COC as their Official Summer Camp. They know they won't find a better summer experience or park anywhere.

We're now staying at the Holiday Inn right in town so the whole town is on your doorstep.

Camp is insane if you are under 21 or over 21. Whistler is the most fun town in the universe.

Ken
Mar 3 2013 8:27AM
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GayWolf420
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I really liked windells solely on the fact of T-Lines public park. I'm not sure that's what they were going for but I had more fun lapping that than the windells lane.
Mar 3 2013 9:44AM
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One.2
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Bang, Bang. Shots fired.
Mar 3 2013 10:06AM
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LukasSchroeder
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Go to COC.And listen to what COC said above.
Mar 3 2013 10:20AM
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E-Nix
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Go to MHSSC. It is half the cost of the other camps which means you could probably convince your parents to send you for double the time. Double the time at camp means more time on snow with constructive coaching. Double the time on snow with constructive coaches means more progression for you. Plus MHSSC is just as much fun as the others even though it is really janky. So if you want to have a blast and make some solid progression go to MHSSC.
Mar 3 2013 10:26AM
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M.M
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the only thing im worried about because i was planning to go to COC is the lift lines, how long do you have to wait typically
Mar 3 2013 12:15PM
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CampofChampions
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In the morning till about noon the line is less than a minute or two. The lift line starts to clog up at about noon when the public start to arrive on the glacier and all the Momentum campers get in line to go for lunch hour in the lodge. According to Whistler Blackcomb, who times the lift lines, from Noon to 2 it's about 5-8 minutes. From 2 - 3 it's about 10 minutes.

The park at COC is the reason the US, Norway, Canada, Russia, Belarus, Holland, and NZ national teams train at COC and others including Momentum's coaches come over to ski when they want to work on their skills. The lift line might be a little longer but our park is twice as long and three times the size has three times the hits and greater variety of lines and hits than Momentum because we don't have part of our area set aside for moguls and pipe, so you get more than 2 hits a run. Also with the COC park being flatter and more park friendly, our features are more like what you will find when you get home, and there isn't the whole braking bumps problem from the lack of nightly grooming. We are the only camp that grooms their park with snowcats every night, which makes a huge difference to how much quality skiing you get. Momentum grooms once a week and has campers sideslip twice daily. At COC you don't have to do a few runs at the start and end of each day sideslipping the park. Our park is ready to rock first thing in the morning. We also have designed an area we call "Quebec" that is loaded with rails that are all set up so you can pick a rail to session and hike it without even having to use the lift. Take away the time other camps spend sideslipping, eating in the lodge and all of a sudden a few minutes a run in the lift line for a three times bigger park isn't as bad as it sounds. It all translates to more time skiing with your coach working on your skills. Camp at COC does cost a little more than other camps but when you see the care and attention we put into our park and the hands on one on one coaching, you'll realize how worth it coming to COC is.
Ken
Mar 17 2013 9:37PM
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LukasSchroeder
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"so you get morw than 2 hits a run" BOOM. BOOM. SHAWTS FYRED
Mar 17 2013 9:47PM
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Armada333
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Lucky bastard 3k birthday present
Mar 17 2013 9:48PM
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Armada333
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Lucky bastard 3k birthday present
Mar 17 2013 9:48PM
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M.M
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only ride for 1.5 hours a day??? wut
Mar 17 2013 10:41PM
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p-fo
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Ken, I hate to do this, but when you start hyping yourself with questionable statements, I gotta call you out.
First of all, you're making this big deal about your park. I hope you realize that no one on Hood has to sideslip either, and that both MHSSC and Windell's get groomed every night just like you guys. Yours is the biggest, maybe, but it can't fit Momentum, MHSSC, and Windell's inside of it, like you say in this thread: https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/738830/. In fact, you're ahead of Windell's by only about ten features (80 to 73), at least according to numbers on the official websites and what you posted in that thread.
In that same thread, you also claim that "Campers are also on snow getting coached longer than any other camp." That's quite the claim considering you're on snow for the same number of days as Windell's, and for the same number of hours. And no one on Hood goes into the lodge for lunch either (unless it's raining). And that doesn't even go into what you pay for those hours, a breakdown in which you finish behind every other camp, and MHSSC wins by a lot.
You also make some of the same claims in this thread here:
https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/727050/. 3x the size of Windell's huh? Just keeps getting bigger!
I'm sure your park and coaches are awesome, and your campers have a blast just like everywhere else, but please don't make claims that grossly exaggerate the differences in experience and the value. It reflects badly on you as the "Founder/Owner/Director".
Mar 18 2013 12:45AM
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MHSSC...OUT.
Mar 18 2013 12:50AM
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JIB_WALRUS
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1.5 hours more per day is what they meant
Mar 18 2013 12:56AM
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Mar 18 2013 12:58AM
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OhioDreams
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If this is paramount to you then I suggest you give us a look. We may not be on snow, but we offer a great camper to coach ratio with staff who's number one focus is on helping you to progress and have fun. And we do it for half the cost of many of the other camps.
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