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What are my main problems(beginner) ? +K

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arturkaikll
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Please take a look, and tell me what are my biggest problems. +K to people who says my main problems. :) ( I am a beginner yet)
Jan 13 2013 12:00PM
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El_Barto.
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Work on one trick at a time. Get 2s out down so they look perfect then work on swaps. As it is you have 2 tricks and both look meh at best.

And hit the rails not the pipe.
Jan 13 2013 12:03PM
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50Kal
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Your just a beginner. practice more and invite more people to ride with.
Jan 13 2013 12:07PM
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arturkaikll
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Thanks
Jan 13 2013 12:10PM
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pink_squid
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Feet a little wider, learn to edge.
Focus on one trick till you get it nailed
Use the damn rails! Do it!
Jan 13 2013 12:10PM
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arturkaikll
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I don't understand the edging thing very well. How ?
Jan 13 2013 12:15PM
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-dAvE-
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If i were you, i'd practice one thing at a time..
Start with 2 out's because you almost have those.
Try to not get so much speed too, it'll really make you practice your balance if you're going slower.
To make your 2 out's look better and feel better, try scissoring the rail. so front foot grinding side of rail kinda.. This will rlly help make your spinning out easier.
Once you have your 2's smooth, u can start doing swaps.. and when you do them, try landing switch instead. If you swap then land switch, ull complete your swap much more. Right now youre landing like 45 degrees as opposite to 90 degress to the rail.
Jan 13 2013 12:23PM
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arturkaikll
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thanks for helpful answer
Jan 13 2013 12:26PM
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-dAvE-
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This is just to show you what i meant with the switch up...
This is after you did your front swap, you can see that youre more facing forwards then sideways..
If you swapped and set yourself up to land switch, your body would have to face sideways then backwards making you completely swap instead of half ass it. (no offence)

https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/639858/cat_id/1/

Here's a thread that talks about the scisoring of a rail.. can read that and ask questions if you still don't get it.
Jan 13 2013 12:28PM
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Bread_Fish
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Thats a pretty sick backyard setup did you make it yourself?
Jan 13 2013 12:34PM
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arturkaikll
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No I didn't. Actually I built nothing. It's just some local hill and some pros built it. It's one of the best in my city
Jan 13 2013 12:43PM
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arturkaikll
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I'll take a look. Actually twice I landed it switch, but not in while filming.
Jan 13 2013 12:45PM
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thegardens8
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1. you have a sweet backyard set up, use those metal rails! people would die for the set you have
2. when you are riding a rail/pipe, try not to open up your body because your turning your body straight abit and your legs are following and turning straight which is causing u to fall off sometimes
3. poles are a personal subject but your poles are also crazy also long, get some new ones or even cut those down, it will be easier to spin off rails with shorter poles
Jan 13 2013 1:02PM
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ryano
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you dont commit to being completely sideways on the rail.
your right hand is always behind your ass. bring it in front of you and stay sideways
realistically, you should be able to slide the whole rail side ways with your hands in front of you, your shoulders lined up with knees which are lined up with your feet and come off the rail sideways. it doesnt look like you're able to do that.
bend your knees
pencil steeze is a no go for balance
widen your stance
jump when you switch up
look where you want to spin (even if you loose site of the rail)
poles are preference, but for learning its sometimes easier without them
pop more on the 2 out
learn how to use the angle of your ski on the rail to help you spin out or start your (1 or multiple) switch ups.
acquire XXXXL tall tees/hoodies. and XXXXXXXL pants.
and last but not least, dont forget to heavy head and afterbang.
Jan 13 2013 1:12PM
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arturkaikll
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Thanks, but what thing is pencil steeze ?
Jan 13 2013 1:24PM
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freestyler540
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The solution is quite simple: you lack 'pop' in you movements. In rails as in jumps, forms must be quickly taken and kept...this has to be done quickly but not jerky. You kinda of look like a rag doll on skis. Ill give you some tips to fastrack.

Be centered: a good take off is the key to a sucessful trick. To get the take off, you have to be centered on your skis. I dont mean be centered mounted, I mean you must feel your shins on the tongue of your boots.

Stand up: You constantly look at your skis. Low visibility leads to slouching, which leads to leaning back. Look at the end of the rail at all times, it will give you spacial awareness.

Practice: It took me years of practice, weekends in the park, doing the same trick over and over again. With some tips from the local pros, your style will emerge and rails will be more fun.
Jan 13 2013 1:27PM
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arturkaikll
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I'll keep it in my mind. I appreciate it
Jan 13 2013 1:30PM
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ryano
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are you asking what pencil steeze is? or what part of you is pencil steeze.


pencil steeze - (noun). a term in freeskiing when a rider performs a stunt while his body is as straight as the aforementioned writing utensil.

"Dude, check out that kids pencil steeze on those rails!"

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as soon as you get up on the rail you stand up. no bent knees, not leaned over, hands at your side, back is straight.. you're not gonna have any maneuverability or balance.
Jan 13 2013 1:42PM
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arturkaikll
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thanks for defining
Jan 13 2013 2:54PM
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icon1234
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Everyone here telling you to do things is correct but you shouldn't listen to them. You just need to keep hitting rails and skiing more and more until you get comfortable with park skiing. There really isn't much more too it than that. Just focus on being in control, and to be in control you need to start using your edges on rails, aka scissoring, that way you can actually set a spin out instead of just hucking your body hoping to land.

So advice, keep things simple and steezey, work on just getting locked onto rails and being in a atheletic calm position, then slowly start focusing on edge pressure. It should be a natural progression.
Jan 13 2013 3:34PM
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arturkaikll
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thanks, solid answer
Jan 13 2013 3:38PM
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Vincenzo
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Get shorter poles aswell. Just cut them with a saw and attach the grip.
Jan 13 2013 3:46PM
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theTRIBE101
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really try to pop on to the rail evenly (with both feet). if you step on you run a way higher risk of slipping out. also, try ad keep your weight evenly distributed on the rail to maximize your balance! looking good for beginning man! and that is a sick backyard rail setup
Jan 13 2013 4:35PM
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Stickity
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stop learning tricks and instead learn to do your tricks well. and be fully turned on the rail, not at an angle
Jan 13 2013 5:19PM
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Mr_Bump
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I'm going to be the one to say it, and this is constructive advice OP I'm not being a douche! - Learn to ski properly as well, don't just spend all your time hitting rails. One's success in developing a new set of skills is strongly determined by the strength of their core skills. In this case, weight distribution, carving, balance, edge control, committing to the front of your boots, leaning downhill etc etc.

You clearly have the ability to hit rails and you've made great progress, I would just encourage you to really develop as a skier in general so that later when you're hitting bigger jumps or backcountry you don't plateau or struggle in your learning from not having the fundamentals down. Being a solid skier will help you in all your skiing adventures, whereas being good on rails will only help you in the park. Just something to bear in mind :)

Go get 'em!
Jan 13 2013 5:48PM
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_____alfredo____
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practice practice practice!
Jan 13 2013 5:51PM
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Ankilla
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Try to have a wider base on the rail. Also pop on your twos off. ride with your friends, its more fun and you get challenged. Your lipslides are good though. However, keep working and itll pay off
Jan 13 2013 6:34PM
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Vincenzo
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No. You'll be alot more stoked on progression. Style developes after time, just keep progressing as much as you can and other things will develope naturally along the way.
Jan 13 2013 6:34PM
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lukaturtle
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fetet a little wider
weight over your front foot.
Theres two different ways to spin:
contact twist- everything moves together
cat twist- legs move but upper bode stays relatively still.
you want to be doing contact twists for the tricks you are trying. it will feel more solid. you can start playing with just rotating your feet when you have the tricks down.
Jan 13 2013 6:52PM
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Ksteez666
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turn completely siddways on the rails
Jan 13 2013 7:12PM
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TNORTS
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No. Get the base tricks down first till you can do them clean (front 2, blind 2, front swap, blind swap). If you don't learn style while you are learning the basics you will develop bad habits that will be hard to shake later.
Jan 13 2013 7:36PM
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Stickity
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exactly
Jan 13 2013 7:48PM
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alex=
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Your pants aren't saggy enough
Jan 13 2013 8:06PM
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arturkaikll
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good advise. Also I have mastered 360's with mute grab. And yeah, I'll keep it in mind.
Jan 14 2013 12:40AM
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johnnyBuz
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I can't really advise you on your skiing since you appear to be better than me, however I will say excellent song selection with Ratatat - Wildcat.
Jan 14 2013 1:10AM
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arturkaikll
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Thanks for all replies. +k given
Jan 14 2013 3:54AM
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arturkaikll
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Progression day. Now im able to do clean fs 270 off and also I rode my first rail
Jan 14 2013 9:54AM
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NotGhood
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Shorter poles aren't just for style, they're alot less distracting when you're hitting rails. Other than that just keep at it and think about making your tricks as smooth as possible.
I'm mad fucking jealous of your set up by the way.
Jan 14 2013 10:00AM
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Vincenzo
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Not the way I did it, but its really individual. If you just focus on progression I find it easier to go back to basic tricks and perfect them. I couldnt do straight and clean blind 2s off, yet I could K-fed both unatty and regular. Really wierd as you actually to a blind 2 in that trick, but anyways. There is no correct answer for this, you just have to find the right way for yourself.
Jan 14 2013 10:06AM
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c4t_l0ver
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Get full tilts too
Jan 14 2013 10:12AM
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arturkaikll
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I only have 1 skier friend. Other friends are snowboarders :(
Jan 14 2013 10:35AM
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arturkaikll
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I can't afford them, I'm on low budget
Jan 14 2013 11:27AM
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Stickity
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then only use pole grips, no actual pole, and sag your helmet off the back of your head. and tall tees
Jan 14 2013 11:29AM
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arturkaikll
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My first rail attempts


Jan 14 2013 11:52AM
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Mr.Huck
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Give it up for Estonia. It's sick that they allow people to build something like that in a public park there. Keep hitting that up and you will be good before you know it.

Next try Blindside 270 off. 90 on to the left like you have been and then about the halfway point turn your head to the left and look at the top of the rail. Then pop and look over your left shoulder and it should come around. IMO they are easier than frontside 270s.
Jan 14 2013 3:10PM
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arturkaikll
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Thanks dude
Jan 14 2013 3:47PM
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SPUTnik.
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better music
Jan 14 2013 4:08PM
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BChaps1209
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already a ton better! 2 out at the end was stomped
Jan 14 2013 5:31PM
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@nonymous
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Make sure when you are doing switch ups, you turn your head and look over your shoulder otherwise you will end up doing 50-50's

Also make sure, when you get on the rail, you look to the end of it!
Jan 14 2013 5:34PM
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pl.
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as long as you're having fun man
Jan 14 2013 5:36PM
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Stickity
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don't step on
Jan 14 2013 5:36PM
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