Member of the Month

hi_vis360
November, 2024

Online

Welcome to the Newschoolers forums! You may read the forums as a guest, however you must be a registered member to post. Register to become a member today!

What this?underflip?

profile picture
dibbler67
Posts: 145 - Karma: 21
undefined
Jan 4 2013 6:37PM
24 5
profile picture
dibbler67
Posts: 145 - Karma: 21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE79HKZ9F6U
Jan 4 2013 6:41PM
0 0
profile picture
Toaster-Tony
Posts: 3531 - Karma: 5,850
You whipped that fast but it looked like a rodeo to me
Jan 4 2013 6:44PM
0 0
profile picture
Hammyslapwagon
Posts: 1261 - Karma: 1,411
In order to be classified as a rodeo, I thought the minimum rotation needed was a 540.  In OP's video it seemed like he only had gone as far as a 180.  
Jan 4 2013 6:54PM
1 1
profile picture
percs
Posts: 2280 - Karma: 5,793
I think underflip.
Jan 4 2013 6:54PM
0 0
profile picture
fillup
Posts: 4904 - Karma: 568
The flip is the 360.
Jan 4 2013 6:58PM
1 0
profile picture
Hammyslapwagon
Posts: 1261 - Karma: 1,411
He landed switch it can't be a 360
Jan 4 2013 6:59PM
0 2
profile picture
Holte
Posts: 10742 - Karma: 7,819
He means the backward flip rotation is the 360 part. For rodeo (and misty, etc) you add the rotation from both axes together.

OP - that was definitely an underflip.
Jan 4 2013 7:08PM
2 0
profile picture
Tucks
Posts: 2120 - Karma: 161
Underflip for sure
Jan 4 2013 7:14PM
3 0
profile picture
nagger
Posts: 1576 - Karma: 883
yes underflip.
Jan 4 2013 7:42PM
1 0
profile picture
Nate.Dog
Posts: 1672 - Karma: 2,098
I used to think this exact same way, I was always so confused, like "why the fuck is that a 5? He only did a 180 at the end" but that's because in skiing/snowboarding flips count as 360 degrees in the name, so when you add the 180 at the end it becomes 540, same with a double rodeo 1080, their not rotating 3 times around, their flipping twice and rotating two separate 180's, which adds up to 1080, hope that helps!
Jan 4 2013 7:43PM
0 0
profile picture
yuck
Posts: 8384 - Karma: 2,090
100% underflip
Jan 4 2013 7:46PM
1 0
profile picture
steezywannabeezy
Posts: 990 - Karma: 690
Rodeo 5. Like someone said, the flip is 360.
Jan 4 2013 7:52PM
0 1
profile picture
J_Christoph
Posts: 2519 - Karma: 8,755
dont listen to this.

100% underflip...I've done quite a few in my time, and thats what it is
Jan 4 2013 7:54PM
1 0
profile picture
Stickity
Posts: 7750 - Karma: 769
or a back half
Jan 4 2013 7:55PM
0 0
profile picture
Craigskis
Posts: 6650 - Karma: 1,645
It looks more like a flair to me...

Yeah it's an underflip
Jan 4 2013 7:57PM
1 0
profile picture
E__
Posts: 5751 - Karma: 4,635
Yeah I'd say underflip, a lot of people mistake those for rodeo.
Jan 4 2013 8:06PM
1 0
profile picture
Montana_Hoodrat
Posts: 1953 - Karma: 1,481
underflip, because it was like a 90-lincoln-90

a rodeo is more of a floaty flat 3 to switch
Jan 4 2013 8:25PM
1 0
profile picture
jeb_b_vt
Posts: 1047 - Karma: 1,294
underflip for sure
Jan 4 2013 8:35PM
1 0
profile picture
Casey
Posts: 7875 - Karma: 24,674

I mean, its 2 feet off the ground who gives a shit what it is. I would say hucked backflip 180.

Jan 4 2013 8:43PM
0 0
profile picture
KillaSteeze
Posts: 3329 - Karma: 351
Underflip
Jan 4 2013 9:08PM
1 0
profile picture
DeRizzo
Posts: 3827 - Karma: 3,485
.
Jan 4 2013 9:48PM
1 0
profile picture
JWoods
Posts: 2369 - Karma: 2,635
.
Jan 4 2013 9:53PM
1 0
profile picture
Darth.Maul
Posts: 2472 - Karma: 652
Funderlip
Jan 4 2013 9:54PM
1 0
profile picture
CheddarJack
Posts: 5203 - Karma: 7,380
haha this
Jan 4 2013 9:57PM
0 0
profile picture
Mitchell.
Posts: 1650 - Karma: 630
looks like a rodeo to me.
can anyone explain why it isn't/is?
Jan 4 2013 10:23PM
0 1
profile picture
Stickity
Posts: 7750 - Karma: 769
because rodeo is synonymous with flat
Jan 4 2013 10:25PM
0 0
profile picture
Bread_Fish
Posts: 760 - Karma: 71

Jan 4 2013 10:33PM
0 0
profile picture
Seany.n
Posts: 459 - Karma: 467
because he goes fucking all the way upsidedown
Jan 4 2013 10:35PM
0 0
profile picture
Seany.n
Posts: 459 - Karma: 467
just to clarify...
UNDERFLIP
Click for larger image


RODEO

Click for larger image





Jan 4 2013 10:39PM
0 0
profile picture
Stickity
Posts: 7750 - Karma: 769
so what's the difference between flat and rodeo
Jan 4 2013 10:42PM
0 0
profile picture
Blynch2
Posts: 480 - Karma: 1,006
I'm pretty sure on rodeos you come completely inverted and flats you don't.
Jan 4 2013 10:53PM
0 0
profile picture
Stickity
Posts: 7750 - Karma: 769
so what seany.n posted is wrong? then what's the difference between an underflip and a rodeo 5?
Jan 4 2013 10:57PM
0 0
profile picture
Gameday
Posts: 274 - Karma: 89
OP cool skis bro
Jan 4 2013 11:02PM
0 0
profile picture
noreasterprod
Posts: 578 - Karma: 606
haha in what world does an underflip get confused for a rodeo. There completely different...people are stupid
Jan 5 2013 12:09AM
0 0
profile picture
fghtoffyrdmns
Posts: 2999 - Karma: 6,902
idc what that was, dat shit was gucci
Jan 5 2013 12:15AM
0 0
profile picture
Stickity
Posts: 7750 - Karma: 769
how is a rodeo different from a flat then?
Jan 5 2013 12:23AM
0 0
profile picture
Heart
Posts: 6156 - Karma: 3,462
They're pretty much the same thing. the line between flat 5 and rodeo is so questionable these days. People like to say that rodeos are a bit more inverted than flat 5's, but it's usually a close call. Different people do rodeos differently, and some are flippier than others.

In literally every video on youtube of a "flat 5" or "rodeo 5" you will see massive amounts of arguing over which trick it is.

For example, here are two different rodeos. The first is very flat, the second is more inverted. Both are still rodeos.



Notice how his head is actually below his feet in this second viedo.


inb4 someone calls the first video out as being a flatspin. its tj schiller, i think he knows what trick hes doing.
Jan 5 2013 1:24AM
0 0
profile picture
90053
Posts: 2565 - Karma: 3,728
i learnt my rodeos from tjs vid !!!!

on rodeos vs flat vs underflip:

underflip = on axis, 90 to licoln up hill to 90
(not very grey area which people seem to muddle especially when grabs are introduced)
rodeo 5 = off axis 540 spin where feet are above head
(very grey area due to how diffiferent people throw the trick)
flat 5 = off axis 540 spin where feet are below head

i remember seeing a good diagram somewhere with coloured arrows but i'm not sure which threads it was in

btw i can only throw these tricks on tramp cuz i'm pathetic
Jan 5 2013 7:45AM
0 0
profile picture
90053
Posts: 2565 - Karma: 3,728
Click for larger image

found it
Jan 5 2013 7:51AM
1 0
profile picture
Lemuel
Posts: 14502 - Karma: 10,729
Underflip.

A rodeo is when you do a backwards flipping spin (more flip than spin) towards 10 on the clock if it was mounted on a wall.

A flatspin is when your back is parallel to the ground, you are basically doing a lincoln loop but you are flipped back 90 degrees if you can picture that. Very few people do real flatspins. It's called a flatspin because it's like you are lying flat on your back. Your feet do not go over your head.
Jan 5 2013 7:52AM
0 0
profile picture
IanAvery-Leaf
Posts: 9932 - Karma: 9,411
.




not sure why people are even trying to debate this....haha
Jan 5 2013 8:09AM
0 0
profile picture
codizzle
Posts: 900 - Karma: 2,251
underflip.
Jan 5 2013 8:57AM
0 0
profile picture
Seany.n
Posts: 459 - Karma: 467
underflips are not even close to rodeo 5s. theyre a completely different set. at least rodeo 5s and flat 5s are thrown exactly the same way.
Jan 5 2013 10:29AM
0 0
profile picture
Seany.n
Posts: 459 - Karma: 467
to me it sees like any flat 3 is called a flat 3 and any flat/rodeo5 is just called a rodeo 5. at least thats what i call them. i dont know about you
Jan 5 2013 10:33AM
0 0
profile picture
Frediboy94
Posts: 427 - Karma: 730
Okay, once and for all:
In a rodeo you tilt your body backwards/to the right and spin left (or vice versa).
In an underflip you tilt your body back/to the left and spin left, or vice versa.

Think of it this way: A rodeo is often a super inverted bio. An underflip is a super inverted cork.

The trick in this video is a picture perfect underflip, since you usually try to throw underflips as straight back as possible.
Jan 5 2013 11:20AM
0 0
profile picture
Frediboy94
Posts: 427 - Karma: 730
This!
Jan 5 2013 11:23AM
0 0
profile picture
NotGhood
Posts: 2809 - Karma: 1,255
looked kind of like a flat 7 to me...
Jan 5 2013 11:33AM
0 0
profile picture
theabortionator
Posts: 51744 - Karma: 163,531
I don't even ski anymore an I'm laughing at how bad some people are at understanding ski flips.
Jan 5 2013 1:33PM
0 0
profile picture
Miomo
Posts: 4302 - Karma: 14,133
Rodeo:




A flatspin was like what Schiller did above.

They're usually called the same thing, but there's a difference.
A rodeo is more like a sideways backflip and a flatspin is less flippy.
Jan 5 2013 3:03PM
0 0
profile picture
[J_Gasper]
Posts: 2983 - Karma: 1,594
yeah for sure NOT a rodeo.

only thing you could maybe justify other than a underflip is a lincoln 180, but its for sure an underflip
Jan 5 2013 3:09PM
0 0
All times are Eastern (-5)