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Gay Marriage

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dspin7x
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I just dont get why people are opposed to it. How does it hurt you if two gay guys get married? It honestly isnt going to affect you in anyway so why not let them get married and be happy if thats what they want. And dont start saying it will ruin the sanctity of marriage. Divorce rates are at 50% now, britney spears can get married for less than a day, and an 80 year old can marry an 18 year old.....but god forbid two gay people that love eachother get married and give marriage a shot where us hetros have failed misearbly.

I just dont see why anyone could be against it, I mean what reason do you have for denying two people the same rights you have? Honestly Id just like an answer...its interesting.

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Nov 2 2004 12:39PM
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dspin7x
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Come on someone answer me, how are two gay people getting married affecting your life in anyway what so ever?

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Nov 2 2004 12:42PM
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punk_rider
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^in fact, civil marriage is just a contract (just like buying a house). the problem with gay marriage is that then, the next step will be parenthood. moreover, you got to put rules and limits in a society: it's not allowed to kill, you have speed limit, ... and no gay marriage! you have to stop somewhere, no?

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Nov 2 2004 12:43PM
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Scoot
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Why does America have to keep changing its laws just to make everyone happy? Just deal with it and leave the Constitution alone.


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Nov 2 2004 12:43PM
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dspin7x
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Killing people and speeding is a little bit different than two people who love eachother getting married. I dont know what to say about parenthood, I havent thought enough about that yet. But we are talking about gay marraige now, not parenthood. And my main question is how are two people getting married who are gay affecting your life???? I just want an answer to that.

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Nov 2 2004 12:45PM
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dspin7x
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Yeah good point, something that was written 200 years ago probably holds the same values that we have today.....Get over it man, society changes. Do you just never want to change the constitution for the next thousand years?? News flash buddy it isnt 1800 anymore....

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Nov 2 2004 12:46PM
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ski8990
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^^what would be better: two gays raising a kid or one single mom who is working her ass off to make money and never gets to even see her kid raising a kid?



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Nov 2 2004 12:46PM
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ski8990
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my above comment was directed towards the frenchie.hehe Im just teasin ya



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Nov 2 2004 12:47PM
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Scoot
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It doesn't affect my life...but the point made by punk_rider above is a valid one: you have to consider the reprecussions of doing something like this. If you grant gays the right to get married, it's just going to lead to more and more requests, including parenthood. The US has been without gay marriage rights from it's inception, so why change now.


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Nov 2 2004 12:47PM
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dspin7x
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yeah thats what I think. I mean Im sure the kid would get teased alot in school at first for having two moms or two dads but whats to say two gay people cant raise a child as well as some of these morons you see every week on cops?

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Nov 2 2004 12:47PM
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dspin7x
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Scoot because like I said the constitution is like 200 years old. Times change brother. You cant be stuck back in the 1800's you have to expect that youre going to have to revise things and make changes. Its not good to live in the past.

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Nov 2 2004 12:48PM
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dspin7x
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And to everyone that is worried about granting them parenthood...this isnt really the issue Im talking about right now but still whats so bad if two gay people adopted a kid? Who is to say they cant do a better job raising a kid then the white trash you see on Cops who beat and molest their kids?

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Nov 2 2004 12:49PM
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Scoot
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I'm not living in the past...i actually am all for changes to the Constitution, if is necessary. To say I'm stuck in the 1800s is ridiculous. I know society has changed and the Constitution has changed with it. I just don't think it's necessary to rewrite it to give gay people special priviledges.


Small, simple, safe price. Rise the wake and carry me with all of my regrets. This is not a small cut that scabs and dries and flakes and heals. And I am not afraid to die. I\'m not afraid to bleed and fuck and fight. I want the pain of payment. What\'s left but a section of pigmy-sized cuts. Much like a slew of a thousand unwanted fucks. Would you be my little cut? Would you be my thousand fucks? And make mark leaving space for the guilt to be liquid. To fill and spill over and under my thoughts. My sad, sorry, selfish craft of the cutter. I\'m cutting trying to picture your black broken heart. Love is not like anything, especially a fucking knife!
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Nov 2 2004 12:51PM
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dspin7x
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How is marriage a special privilege?

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Nov 2 2004 12:51PM
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dspin7x
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I just dont see how two gay people getting married is going to affect your life in anyway? If it makes them happy and makes their life better and doesnt hurt anyone else in the process you have no reason for not letting them.

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Nov 2 2004 12:52PM
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punk_rider
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^i'm 5'7 and i will never ask for a law to make basket ball cases less high. i mean, nature prevents two males or females to have kids ... i guess mother nature always goes to the best way, naturally ...
and my question is: if you give this right, where will you stop?
second question: why a community always claiming difference now wants the most traditional thing?

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Nov 2 2004 12:52PM
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Scoot
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My point is...granting marriage rights will lead to further requests. I know you keep saying that you are only discussing marriage, but you can't just put something into use and not consider all possible events to follow.


Small, simple, safe price. Rise the wake and carry me with all of my regrets. This is not a small cut that scabs and dries and flakes and heals. And I am not afraid to die. I\'m not afraid to bleed and fuck and fight. I want the pain of payment. What\'s left but a section of pigmy-sized cuts. Much like a slew of a thousand unwanted fucks. Would you be my little cut? Would you be my thousand fucks? And make mark leaving space for the guilt to be liquid. To fill and spill over and under my thoughts. My sad, sorry, selfish craft of the cutter. I\'m cutting trying to picture your black broken heart. Love is not like anything, especially a fucking knife!
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Nov 2 2004 12:53PM
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dspin7x
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What do you mean where will it stop? Its not like we are handing out free handguns to anyone who wants them. Marriage is a simple thing. Quit saying where will it stop. Its not like were legalizing prostitution and killing people by giving gays the right to marry.

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Nov 2 2004 12:54PM
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Scoot
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I'm with punk_rider...good point dude!


Small, simple, safe price. Rise the wake and carry me with all of my regrets. This is not a small cut that scabs and dries and flakes and heals. And I am not afraid to die. I\'m not afraid to bleed and fuck and fight. I want the pain of payment. What\'s left but a section of pigmy-sized cuts. Much like a slew of a thousand unwanted fucks. Would you be my little cut? Would you be my thousand fucks? And make mark leaving space for the guilt to be liquid. To fill and spill over and under my thoughts. My sad, sorry, selfish craft of the cutter. I\'m cutting trying to picture your black broken heart. Love is not like anything, especially a fucking knife!
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Nov 2 2004 12:54PM
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dspin7x
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Okay then scoot and punkrider what further requests are the gays going to make that are so unreasonable for you two to consdier?

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Nov 2 2004 12:54PM
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ski8990
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yes if you let gays have equal rights where will the madness stop? next thing you know they wont want to be the victims of hate crimes!



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Nov 2 2004 12:54PM
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dspin7x
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What further requests and what bad things are gay marriage going to lead to, tell me that morons....

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Nov 2 2004 12:55PM
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Scoot
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Why is it soooo important to grant gays marriage anyway. They can still be together and live together. Many employers even grant partner insurance coverage now. You say why not do it if it doesn't affect our lives. I say, why do it in the first place.


Small, simple, safe price. Rise the wake and carry me with all of my regrets. This is not a small cut that scabs and dries and flakes and heals. And I am not afraid to die. I\'m not afraid to bleed and fuck and fight. I want the pain of payment. What\'s left but a section of pigmy-sized cuts. Much like a slew of a thousand unwanted fucks. Would you be my little cut? Would you be my thousand fucks? And make mark leaving space for the guilt to be liquid. To fill and spill over and under my thoughts. My sad, sorry, selfish craft of the cutter. I\'m cutting trying to picture your black broken heart. Love is not like anything, especially a fucking knife!
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Nov 2 2004 12:56PM
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dspin7x
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Exactly giving gays equal rights as every other human being is sooo bad why? Next thing you know we are going to allow blacks to vote on marry!!! Oh no they are going to spread their evil all over the world!


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Nov 2 2004 12:57PM
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Scoot
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PARENTHOOD...it was already mentioned above several times.


Small, simple, safe price. Rise the wake and carry me with all of my regrets. This is not a small cut that scabs and dries and flakes and heals. And I am not afraid to die. I\'m not afraid to bleed and fuck and fight. I want the pain of payment. What\'s left but a section of pigmy-sized cuts. Much like a slew of a thousand unwanted fucks. Would you be my little cut? Would you be my thousand fucks? And make mark leaving space for the guilt to be liquid. To fill and spill over and under my thoughts. My sad, sorry, selfish craft of the cutter. I\'m cutting trying to picture your black broken heart. Love is not like anything, especially a fucking knife!
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Nov 2 2004 12:57PM
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dspin7x
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Because its something they want to do, they love eachother and want to make a life long commitment just like hetrosexual people do. So why does it matter if they do.

And scoot you sidestepped my next question there buddy, what further requests or bad things are going to come down the road from giving gays the right to marry????

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Nov 2 2004 12:58PM
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dspin7x
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Okay then why is it so bad if gay people had kids together....God forbid kids living in a foster home or orphanage go to parents who love them. Im willing to bet that many gay parents would make better parents than alot of the fools in the world that procreate.

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Nov 2 2004 12:59PM
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Scoot
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Guess what...marriage is a union between a man and a woman. Nature made man and women have the ability to make babies together. I have no problem with gay people, but we don't need to change our laws around just to make sure everyone gets exactly what they want.


Small, simple, safe price. Rise the wake and carry me with all of my regrets. This is not a small cut that scabs and dries and flakes and heals. And I am not afraid to die. I\'m not afraid to bleed and fuck and fight. I want the pain of payment. What\'s left but a section of pigmy-sized cuts. Much like a slew of a thousand unwanted fucks. Would you be my little cut? Would you be my thousand fucks? And make mark leaving space for the guilt to be liquid. To fill and spill over and under my thoughts. My sad, sorry, selfish craft of the cutter. I\'m cutting trying to picture your black broken heart. Love is not like anything, especially a fucking knife!
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Nov 2 2004 12:59PM
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dspin7x
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But if somebody wants something, and they arent harming other people in the process why cant we give them what we want? Thats like saying you shouldnt ski because alot of people dont like, you like it so isnt that all that matters?

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Nov 2 2004 1:01PM
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Scoot
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I actually agree that many normal parents are complete deabeats...but that's a whole other topic...birth control. Too many people just fuck fuck fuck and then when htye have a kid its like, holy shit what do I do??

If two gay people love one another, le t them be committed for life, but why does a piece of paper saying they are married make such a big difference??


Small, simple, safe price. Rise the wake and carry me with all of my regrets. This is not a small cut that scabs and dries and flakes and heals. And I am not afraid to die. I\'m not afraid to bleed and fuck and fight. I want the pain of payment. What\'s left but a section of pigmy-sized cuts. Much like a slew of a thousand unwanted fucks. Would you be my little cut? Would you be my thousand fucks? And make mark leaving space for the guilt to be liquid. To fill and spill over and under my thoughts. My sad, sorry, selfish craft of the cutter. I\'m cutting trying to picture your black broken heart. Love is not like anything, especially a fucking knife!
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Nov 2 2004 1:02PM
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dspin7x
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So nature gave men and women the ability to have children, so is that always right. what about people who are born sterile, should they NEVER be able to raise kids just because they cant do so sexually? Youre just being bullheaded man, get your head of your ass.

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Nov 2 2004 1:02PM
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dspin7x
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'If two gay people love one another, le t them be committed for life, but why does a piece of paper saying they are married make such a big difference??'

Exactllllllllyyyyyyy my point scoot. Why does it make such a big deal to you? If its going to make them happy why not just let them do it? No harm is going to come and these people would really like to have it so why not man?

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Nov 2 2004 1:03PM
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Scoot
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Look, if the US went around granting every person the exact rights they want, we would be in absolute chaos. Changing laws just to make people happy is a waste of time. Why not focus on making changes that will actually do something useful for the US??


Small, simple, safe price. Rise the wake and carry me with all of my regrets. This is not a small cut that scabs and dries and flakes and heals. And I am not afraid to die. I\'m not afraid to bleed and fuck and fight. I want the pain of payment. What\'s left but a section of pigmy-sized cuts. Much like a slew of a thousand unwanted fucks. Would you be my little cut? Would you be my thousand fucks? And make mark leaving space for the guilt to be liquid. To fill and spill over and under my thoughts. My sad, sorry, selfish craft of the cutter. I\'m cutting trying to picture your black broken heart. Love is not like anything, especially a fucking knife!
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Nov 2 2004 1:04PM
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punk_rider
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^my point: equality for equal people. handicaped people have more rights coz' they are not equal. gays are not equal to heteros.
what other demands? not only about gays, but recognizing more and more rights for ideas that are found 'progress' ... marriage is building point of society: maybe it would be ok, but if it destroys our cardinal points then, ...

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Nov 2 2004 1:05PM
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dspin7x
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Except people have spent more time argueing against it and creating chaos in the process of trying not to let it happen than they would have if they would just let people do what they want.

Do to others and you would like done to you.

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Nov 2 2004 1:06PM
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ski8990
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scoot we are talking about giving gays equal rights not giving them any extra.



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Nov 2 2004 1:06PM
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dspin7x
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Punk rider youre a moron explain to me how gay marriage is goign to ruin m arriage? In case you have your head up your ass still divorce rates are at 50% and people can get married and divorced as many times as tehy want. Hell you can get married for an hour if you want, does that not ruin marriage?

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Nov 2 2004 1:07PM
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dspin7x
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Yeah equal scoot not extra, its like saying when we gave blacks and women the right to vote we were giving them 'extra rights'. maybe blacks should still be slaves scoot? After all that is what was normal during the the tiem teh constitution was written....

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Nov 2 2004 1:07PM
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punk_rider
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^but what do you think of my point? you KNOW the next step will be parenthood, and that it will be impossible to say 'no' after said 'yes'. nature do not want two males to have kids. and you, do you want to go against nature?

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Nov 2 2004 1:08PM
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dspin7x
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Why does it matter if two men or two women raise childrn? Lots of parents sexually abuse their children yet the state takes them away and gives them right back to them a few months later just for it to happen again...

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Nov 2 2004 1:09PM
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dspin7x
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Whatever I have to go now, it was nice to prove you all morons once again. To all you people with your heads still up your asses why dont you take them out and realize we arent living in colonial new england anymore....

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Nov 2 2004 1:10PM
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punk_rider
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^you do not answer ...
nevermind. maybe they could raise them a good way, but i do not want to take the risk.
nature didn't want it.
but after all, if abortion doesn't even make you wonder what's good or wrong (and i do not have the answer) ...

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Nov 2 2004 1:12PM
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Scoot
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Don't be ridiculous. Bottom line, I just don't think it is necessary to open that door.


Small, simple, safe price. Rise the wake and carry me with all of my regrets. This is not a small cut that scabs and dries and flakes and heals. And I am not afraid to die. I\'m not afraid to bleed and fuck and fight. I want the pain of payment. What\'s left but a section of pigmy-sized cuts. Much like a slew of a thousand unwanted fucks. Would you be my little cut? Would you be my thousand fucks? And make mark leaving space for the guilt to be liquid. To fill and spill over and under my thoughts. My sad, sorry, selfish craft of the cutter. I\'m cutting trying to picture your black broken heart. Love is not like anything, especially a fucking knife!
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Nov 2 2004 1:12PM
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punk_rider
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^uh!!!! ok

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Nov 2 2004 1:13PM
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Smithy
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im with dspinx on this one. hetero marriage receives marital benefits when gays dont because theyre not allowed to share that kind of bond with one another. they are being treated inequally due only to their sexual preferance.... its not about giving them more rights, only about giving them the chance to have equal rights. people used to have the same mentality about women voting. 'oh why do women need to vote. they dont need that extra right. they belong in the kitchen because only men really know whats going on in politics.' when infact this thoguth process was completely false. go figure!






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Nov 2 2004 1:14PM
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dspin7x
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I hope we never see the day where blacks and women have equal rights!!! Lets keep our heads in the 1700s yayyyyy

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Nov 2 2004 1:14PM
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punk_rider
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^equal rights for equal people ... i never asked to be taller than i am. we got to have limits. were would you put limits? do not kil and do not steal? pretty thin for a society project!
it's ok lane, your wrong on that but i still love you! ;D

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Nov 2 2004 1:16PM
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dspin7x
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^quit making stupid ass analogies that dont work, the height thing isnt workign man...give it up.

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Nov 2 2004 1:17PM
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Smithy
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well, even though your analogy sucks thibaud, ill compromise with it. actually, 5 '7 is a fairly average height. but yet, most facilities, depending on the crowd they draw in, will comply with height, weight, whatever physiological issues they need to focus on more depdning on teh crowd. im typing fast, excusee the mistakes






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Nov 2 2004 1:20PM
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Dallan!
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who the hell gets bothered by two gay guys fucking theyre asses... no one... exept for those dumb asses that belive in some words that where writen like 1000 years ago.. doesnt really work with how the world looks today.. does it?





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Nov 2 2004 1:20PM
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dspin7x
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And its not our fault that you are 5'7 due to years of inbreeding by the french royalty.

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Nov 2 2004 1:21PM
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