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What are good park bindings? Lightweight

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whateverman
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Not looking for FKS or anything marker, been there done that
Dec 16 2012 7:39PM
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SkiTennessee
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whats wrong with fks or marker? oh and talkin about some gear...
Dec 16 2012 7:41PM
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.Roockley.
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i love my pivots, i'd recommend them for sure
Dec 16 2012 7:45PM
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whateverman
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A lot of people I know have had problems with FKS durability. And I like markers but I have a pair and just want Somthing more lightweight
Dec 16 2012 7:45PM
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willy_baller
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http://www.4frnt.com/node/383 I havent had any issues with them. and they're light
Dec 16 2012 7:46PM
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whateverman
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Thanks ill look into them +k
Dec 16 2012 7:47PM
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.Roockley.
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the only downside to pivots is trying to put them back on in pow, mitts get caught and its awkward

moral of the story, don't fall in pow
Dec 16 2012 7:47PM
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bquick222
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I know what he's talking about. Not a big marker fan either. 4th day out on my marker free 12.0s I caught an edge riding switch not going that fast and blew up my heel piece and brakes....

To answer your question check out look PX, Rossignol FKS, or Salomon STH. Have heard a lot of good things about those three bindings.
Dec 16 2012 7:47PM
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Randy_Quench
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basically you have to pick your poison.
more metal pieces = heavier but more durable. (aka pivots)
more plastic pieces = lighter but less durable. (marker squires)

that being said I think its all luck of the draw. I ski my squires harder than most my friends do on their pivots, and my squires are still fully functional with 0 issues with maybe 50 days skiing on em.
Dec 16 2012 7:50PM
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SkiTennessee
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are you retarted?...
Dec 16 2012 7:51PM
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ChasingFlakes
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ah well ... hoookay
Dec 16 2012 7:52PM
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pghjibber
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any of the tyrolia peak bindings

so durable, no prerelease issues and are reasonable priced

still dont understand why so many kooks still choose squires and other POS
Dec 16 2012 7:53PM
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SeanB
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Very true, love my pivots but as mentioned putting them back on in pow sucks balls!! Also if you land super backseat they can and will violate you.
Dec 16 2012 7:54PM
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SkiTennessee
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does OP know that pivots and fks are the same thing....and he said that he had durability issues with fks... wat
Dec 16 2012 7:55PM
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rozboon
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+1, Pivots = FKS...

You heard some bad things about FKS durability, wtf, was Chuck Norris riding them? Cos I'm a fat bastard who lands like a sack of wet cement and I haven't broken a pair.

Dec 16 2012 8:14PM
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SkiTennessee
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most bombproof bindings imo.. sexy look too
Dec 16 2012 8:18PM
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ColinB
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hahahaha pivots and FKS are the same thing. and as for why you dont want FKS's.. i think it should be made clear that they and the pivots are the two best bindings you are likely to find
Dec 16 2012 8:19PM
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whateverman
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haha didnt know pivots were fks's
Dec 16 2012 8:19PM
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ski.cats
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jesters have been durable for me and relatively light compared to bindings in the same range
Dec 16 2012 8:21PM
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Stickity
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oh the irony
Dec 16 2012 8:21PM
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whateverman
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Just about everyone i know who has them has had problems with them so i dont feel like i should get em and yeah i figured out they were the same hahahah i dont know a lot about bindings thats why i made the thread
Dec 16 2012 8:22PM
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whateverman
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hahaha right
Dec 16 2012 8:23PM
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SkiTennessee
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Okay I know I spelled *retarded wrong but if you don't know a lot about bindings then why did you think that fks was bad.....
Dec 16 2012 8:39PM
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whateverman
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hahah its all good and because i know 3 people who have had problems with them braking, ex: brake bending, heelpiece snapping
they seem like they arnt put together very well like not so sturdy. although it could have just been bad luck
Dec 16 2012 8:49PM
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Pow.yuHdig*
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yea get that 18 din shiiit
Dec 16 2012 8:51PM
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SkiTennessee
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Only if you're less than 150 lbs tho, gotta be a hard ass, but I've never heard of fks heel piece snapping.. And bent brakes is norm for any binding..
Dec 16 2012 9:00PM
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skibeest
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I can't tell you what to get but I can tell you what not to get. I have a pair of dynastar bindings that are like rocks. Too heavy in my opinion. One would think that a heavier binding would mean it was more durable, but unfortunately this is not the case. This is my second season with them and the metal piece which deploys the brake is bent and doesn't work already. Chasing my ski down the hill is a royal pain in the ass.
Dec 16 2012 9:03PM
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DaysToCome
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a good compromise between durability and weight is the salomon sth 16 or atomic ffg 16. you can even drop to the sth14 if you dont want that high of a din.
Dec 16 2012 9:05PM
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thebusiness19
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just don't use the ones wallisch or dumont use
Dec 16 2012 9:07PM
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SkiTennessee
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Make sure you get the driver toe if you get these though
Dec 16 2012 9:18PM
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OG_Loc
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while we're on the topic of bindings… rossi axial2?
Dec 16 2012 9:21PM
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whateverman
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What is the driver toe?
Dec 16 2012 9:22PM
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CrotchKiller
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Dec 16 2012 9:31PM
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rasta_tom
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Look px 12 and px 14 are really solid bindings i use for all mountain
Dec 16 2012 9:33PM
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whateverman
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You can only get the driver toe it looks like...l
Dec 16 2012 9:33PM
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SkiTennessee
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http://m.backcountry.com/salomon-sth-16-ski-binding
Dec 16 2012 9:34PM
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Capt*nChad
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I also had the free 12s and came off a rail switch, didn't fall but ripped the heel piece out of the ski...shitty pair of bindings in my opinion
Dec 16 2012 9:59PM
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Maximumsushi
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Ok, a few things.

I'm not sure you have even been on FKSs. There simply isn't a more durable binding that exists for skiing. That's true.

Don't bother buying the Axials. The pivots have a better, safer heelpiece and have stronger metal pieces in places the axials rely on plastic. The pivot is a stronger binding than the axials. I wish all of the axials I bought a few years ago were the new pivots instead. I've broken so many tracks and heelpieces on axials before the pivot/fks was re-released.

You probably don't need a 18 DIN binding. Unless you're gigantic/obese or absolutely murking shit and hitting absolutely gigantic tables. But, if you're doing the latter, you probably wouldn't be posting on an online forum for binding advice. A binding at 12 or 14 will probably suit you fine. I have broken tons of skis and binding pieces, but have never had a serious knee injury in 10 years of park skiing. I'm 150 lbs and hit sizeable cliffs and tables and really have no need to have my DINs over 10 or 11.

I'm moving this to gear talk.

Dec 16 2012 10:10PM
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Maximumsushi
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Yup! Markers stink for skiing park.
Dec 16 2012 10:11PM
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rozboon
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Heelpiece snapping, really? They're made of pieces of superman and jesus' underpants. Maybe if you backed over them with a car.... the only time I've heard of them breaking is when a guy had a pair so long that he eventually wore through the heel bars from clacking his skis together. And even then it took something like 8 years and maybe a dozen pairs of skis.
Dec 17 2012 4:03PM
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Maximumsushi
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I'll support this statement. I've broken several PX12 heelpieces when they are less than a season old. I've broken the plastic casing over the heel bed, and I've also strangely snapped the metallic track for adjusting to different BSLs. But, I've got a pivot heelpiece that is so old that you no longer adjust the DIN because the dildo part is so worn down.
Dec 17 2012 6:40PM
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Maximumsushi
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Read the stickied binding thread at the top of this page.
Dec 17 2012 6:49PM
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chuckmarty
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It's actually spelled "retarded". With a 'd'.


Dec 17 2012 11:08PM
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SkiTennessee
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Yeah I already corrected that thanks though!!
Dec 18 2012 9:20AM
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