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The official thread for all things Surface. We will check it every day and do our best to answer your questions about the brand, the product, the team riders, new plans, trips and other curiosities. For better or worse.

Check back every Friday as we will choose one random contributor to this thread and send them a complimentary care package to their doorstep. Simple as that.

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Dec 12 2012 4:45PM
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*SURFACE
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Hey - also check out the Joystick These. Totally symmetrical w/ really soft buttery flex.
Jan 7 2013 7:16PM
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*SURFACE
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Great advice...
Jan 7 2013 7:17PM
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Z-PAULY.
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Do those feel long? I'm like 5'3" to 5'4" ish and would I be able to use em for park?
Jan 7 2013 7:18PM
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*SURFACE
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Swing into the shop Jake!
Jan 7 2013 7:18PM
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*SURFACE
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They do ski long. I am 5' 8" and ski them all the time. Such a rad shape.
Jan 7 2013 7:19PM
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Z-PAULY.
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Like withought too much trouble. Obviously they could be used for park
Jan 7 2013 7:19PM
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Evilchris
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Jan 7 2013 7:43PM
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908
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Thanks for the advice, but unfortunately buying new skis at any price is not really an option right now. The only shop near me in jersey suggested I trade them in for a "discount" on a new pair of skis and bindings. Guess ill wait two weeks till I'm up at jay for a second opinion. On a positive note I love your skis, everything I expected and more in pow and crud an surprisingly good on hard pack. I have gone surface and I won't go back
Jan 8 2013 10:07AM
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CalebT
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i filed them with a gummy stone right as i got them for a straight 5 minutes.
Jan 8 2013 6:42PM
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samroon
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Absolutely loving my One Times! I get so many weird looks and questions about the skis rocker. Somebody the other day said, "Hey man i think your skis broken" reply, "If this is broken i need to break all my skis" Thanks a bunch for the great prices and cutting edge technology!
Jan 8 2013 7:57PM
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Twig
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5 minutes with a gummy stone is barely a detune just saying. I tend to do my edges on the belt sander now but it used to take me hours before i gave up and went for the lazy option.
Jan 10 2013 12:26PM
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dhoiska
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Talked with Skyler at Surface and all I have to say is customer service at Surface is amazing. One of my no times' edge peeled out on the tip and tail and I sent him some pictures he got back to me promptly with great news. I was nervous about buying a smaller companies product but after talking with them I experienced first hand that Surface is a great company of people that stand behind their products. I'm from the midwest and I am the only person riding surfaces at my home mtn. Can't wait to get my skis back so I can rep such a sick company. Seriously stoked on Surface! Thanks guys!
Jan 10 2013 6:15PM
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*SURFACE
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Right on thanks for the kind words. We are definitely working hard over here and appreciate it.
Jan 12 2013 11:54AM
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No.Quarter
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I haven't read this thread in a while, but I found this on TGR, these are One Life's.
I'm not sure how someone does this, but please explain yourselves.

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Jan 12 2013 2:53PM
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Twig
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Not sure of this specific case but if you crash dead on in to anything hard (rock/tree/stump/rail) that can happen to any ski.
Jan 12 2013 5:52PM
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No.Quarter
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yeah i was wondering to see if anyone else has hast this happen. I didn't think of trees, rock, stump, rail, i just thought he was like scraping them on like a linex-ed truck or something (which i have stupidly done and peeled back my topsheets a little bit but not that much)
Jan 12 2013 8:02PM
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Flacko
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will causwell be coming out with any black or khaki gear. I really like the stuff out now but i would rather go a little bit more neutral colors +black and khaki go with basically anything. i would buy khaki causwell pants in a heartbeat, also you should make them am more tapered/carrot or whatever cut.
Jan 13 2013 12:10AM
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*SURFACE
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Pretty blunt impact on something for sure. Not sure how this particular case happened though.
Jan 13 2013 11:32AM
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GayWolf420
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You're argument sucks. The dude really didn't say what happened so It could be anything. Surface hate is old news. Don't knock till you've tried.
Jan 13 2013 12:14PM
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prometheusprime
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I actually know the person who did this. He's not a great skier and doesn't ski particularly fast or hard, but he had a gnarly crash and definitely banged some rocks.
Jan 13 2013 1:54PM
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Sharko
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SERIOUSLY??? You never thought it might have been a rock? Despite the fact that the review you took that picture from explains that the owner did that damage by hitting a rock at 40mph? The he went on to say that he liked them so much he immediately bought another pair. Pay attention and get your facts right before you publicly denounce someone's product.
Jan 13 2013 4:38PM
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schism
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Sorry to quote all these pictures, but I too know the person that had this happen. A lot of this actually happened in Chile, as we were both there with Evolve Chile.

Most if not all, of that damage happen in Chile where the coverage was horrible. Rocks were everywhere, and at one point he tomahawked pretty bad and went through a field of rocks. Thats what I remember, Zack can say otherwise, but i'm pretty sure thats were most of it happened.

No ski could have survived that week of skiing, as i remember having to fix and epoxy roughly 6 core shots ranging from 1 inch long up to 4 inches long.
Jan 13 2013 10:57PM
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SwagtasticWalrus
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Inb4 is crazy(:
Jan 13 2013 11:02PM
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No.Quarter
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I didnt mean to hate on surface. This post was to direct people to a review praising surface. I realize my posts were poorly worded. I am pretty uneducated as to ski damadhe also as i have not done too much damage to my skis before. Im sorry if my posts came off as hate. I am actually interested in purchasing surface sometime in the future.
Jan 14 2013 12:28AM
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No.Quarter
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And also can somebody put some detailed pictures of the One Time rocker profile (full ski, tip, tail, and underfoot)
Jan 14 2013 12:31AM
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No.Quarter
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Bump
Jan 14 2013 3:36PM
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saskskier
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Just picked up my New Life's from UPS during my lunch break today. Just need to wait for my new brakes to come in before I can get them mounted up and then off to the mountains next week.
Jan 14 2013 3:48PM
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SPUTnik.
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looking in to the surface next times,  how does it ski? like stiff or flexy?, heavy or light? etc.
Jan 14 2013 4:59PM
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Its_Greg
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Just snatched a killer deal on last years no times, hopefully I'll like em. How subtle is the tip and tail early rise? Do they have somewhat of a rockered feel?
Jan 14 2013 11:45PM
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SwagtasticWalrus
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What model?
Jan 14 2013 11:53PM
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derek.urben
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I am am intermediate park/all mountain skier. I want a good all purpose ski but I don't want to break the bank, ideas?
Jan 15 2013 11:21PM
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Backyard.Skier
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are the joystick park skis, just surface with joystick written on them?
Jan 16 2013 12:15AM
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Flacko
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joystick is owned by surface, as for the ski im pretty positive its its own ski, and not just a different top sheet on a surface model, and yes they are park skis. and @pow the joystick these are probably a bit tall, i would pick up some blanks and in a year or two when your taller get the joystick these.
Jan 16 2013 12:28AM
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.[sanhedrin].
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No
Jan 16 2013 3:33PM
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abus
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when do you guys finally start selling your products in europe more ? i think lots of people would be stoked on buying surface in the austrian/swiss/german area !
Jan 16 2013 3:43PM
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.[sanhedrin].
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Tell this to your favorite shop, not to Surface. The shop has to have justification to begin conversations with Surface, usually not the other way around.
Jan 16 2013 4:44PM
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.[sanhedrin].
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Tell this to your favorite shop, not to Surface. The shop has to have justification to begin conversations with Surface, usually not the other way around.
Jan 16 2013 4:44PM
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*SURFACE
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Next Time's are cool little skis for sure. They are a medium flex. Not overly stiff and not noodles. They are extremely light.
Jan 17 2013 11:36AM
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*SURFACE
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I would check out the Double Times from last season 11/12 --- we have some great deals on them at our website now.

Click HERE to see what we have left from last season.
Jan 17 2013 11:38AM
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*SURFACE
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The Joystick THESE are a ski shape that is unique to Joystick. We do not use it in our Surface line up.
Jan 17 2013 11:39AM
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*SURFACE
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We are working on a European sales solution right now.
Jan 17 2013 11:41AM
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tinkytwinky
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Surface/Causwell softgood on the way?
Jan 17 2013 11:56AM
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*SURFACE
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We have some new lightweight sweatshirts, wool caps and beanies available HERE!
Jan 17 2013 11:58AM
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Merrill
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I currently have a pair of double times from two years ago. They are beginning to get to the point where its time for a new ski. I have been looking at what you guys have on clearance from last year and have been thinking about a pair of new life's. I ski about a 50/50 park to all mountain split. I have read that these skis do pretty well all over, especially for being a big powder ski. I do like the wider feel of the double times in the park and I am wanting to try something with some rocker, but i was wondering if these skis would feel to big and cumbersome in the park?
Jan 17 2013 5:07PM
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TheClap.
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I love my one lifes on/out the park deff worth checking them out also
Jan 17 2013 5:12PM
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jmasterp
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I ride my one life's all over, it's really stiff, which makes it carve surprisingly well. They are also surprisingly light for a ski with those dimensions. I would definitely recommend them!
Jan 17 2013 5:25PM
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saskskier
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I would go with the One Life. Up until Christmas, I was skiing on Live Life 2's which was the precursor to the One Life. I used them everywhere and they were super fun. I just got New Life's and am just waiting to get them mounted. I wouldn't use them for park. They are absolutely massive (I got the 194's, but all lengths are 151/121/151) and I think they would just be too awkward for park.
Jan 17 2013 5:26PM
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Merrill
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Thanks man! The reason that I was thinking of the new life was because I can get last years in a 182 for 300 but the only have 189 one life's left. I am 5 11 so would they still feel super long with the rocker?
Jan 17 2013 8:11PM
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Keith.
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Couple things

1. Looking at the no time in 182. Would appreciate if someone could chime in on how flexy and what the tip/tail rocker is.

2. Buying from canada directing from the https://shop.freeskibrands.com/index.php?c=3
website. It estimated shipping at $60, anyone in canada buy directly from surface, want to let me know if they got dinged with extra border fees when the ski arrived at their house. I bought skis used last from the states, paid $50 for shipping then another $60 at my door. Looking to not repeat that.

Thanks
Jan 17 2013 8:55PM
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Jackmood
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I have a lot of friends that ride surface and they love them. Like 3 of my friends ride the double time and they think they are the greatest things in the world. One thing I have heard is that binding rip out of the ski very easy. It's happened to 2 of my friends and it appeared to be a defect in the mounting plate. I guess you guys don't warranty binding rip outs, is there a reason behind this?
Jan 17 2013 9:47PM
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