Well Designed Jumps

cause that would be boring dude.  you ever hit a feature differently than its supposed to be hit?  that's what makes it interesting.  your argument is like saying "why dont they only build different sized perfect downrails"

its tight to have step ups, step downs, crazy tranny finders, massive hips, little shit booters you have to miss ruts on the landing.  thats all part of the game. 

but i do agree that the xgames big air jump should take a page out of the JOI jump book. 

In the case of most ski hills, they either don't have the snow, right slope, or the resources (both cat time and skilled driver/park tech) to make a 'perfect' jump like JOI. It takes a lot of snow and cat time/man hours to build a jump like that. I know a lot of ski hills just don't get enough cat time to build what they want all the time.

Places that are more dedicated to park usually have excellent jumps that are big, safe, and totally trickable. As for high level events like X Games.. well, I don't really know what's going on there. Seams like every year there's something sketchy about the slopestyle course or big air jump. I wouldn't just blindly blame the jump for Sammy's injury though, too many variables going on.

Also, skiers and boarders hit the X Games big air jump. I'm curious as to how snowboarders would do on the JOI jump. They typically don't like very kicky jumps, so that could play a role in the construction of the big air jump at X Games.

Before Resorts of the Canadian Rockies (RCR) went off the deep end, the Fernie terrain park had really well made 'step over' jumps that were just awesome. They weren't huge, but you the entire landing was a sweet spot so you could land on the knuckle or down at the bottom on your back and it wouldn't hurt. Very trickable as well. They also had a big step down, a few true tables, and other silly stuff, but their step overs were a great feature that I think every hill should try to achieve. They don't take a crazy amount of snow, they don't have to be crazy big, and they are very safe.

people will hit them that shouldn't be hitting them and injured themselves and sue. That's why I liked the system Whistler had with the XL park where you had to buy a special pass and sign waivers to gain access. But they have gotten rid of that system so we'll see how it's gonna work.

this is true. but if you look to places like breck and keystone, those jumps are pretty poppy but advanced skiers and snowboarders around the world claim these to be the best jumps in the world and will willingly travel there every year to train.

i think this is a huge factor. more often than not i think most people dont realize that the pitch and slope of the area where the jump is to be built is incredible important.

Not even going to chime in on this. Do not have time or effort...

Breck's jumps are orgasmic. But like others have said making perfect jumps takes much more than just having snow, lots of variables come into play.

i think op is talking about copying the physics of the jump, not putting a five story tall jump at every mountain. alot of places just carelessly scatter rails and put wedges in with flat landings and say "go have fun." im not saying there should be a universal setup for every park, but i think if the people who knew what they were doing (breck crew, jon olsson, whoever else you guys think) ran workshops and clinics for other park crews or managers on how to build jumps things might be more fun and alot safer.

did you not read the thread? it takes too much time, effort, money, and snow to be feasible. the size is part of the physics of it. there's no point in putting that much effort into a jump that isn't going to be big enough to dub or trip, especially for the average mountain which isn't trying to pump a ton of money into their park because it won't have justifiable returns.

i read it and i made a comment on my own opinion based on what was said about brecks jumps too. i never said each mountain needs a jump to do dubs or trips on, i just said was on to something and for functionality and safety what i said might work.

park city could use some help, and in the future shouldnt build a jump on the run that they have open right now, way to fucking steep

SPT should be fired from the X Games gig after last year's debacle. Let Jon build it, or Charles Beckinsale (he built the One Hit Wonder jump as well as the Whistler jump in Superheroes of Stoke)

They must be Chaddin fucking cunts then.

Right on some points.