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May have to quit skiing because rockered park skis dont make sense

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raull
Posts: 384 - Karma: 2,232
title says it. i wanna get new skis for christmas, but unfortunately EVERY ski i look at has some sort of rocker. i dont want rocker in my park skis, rocker should be for powder only.

please help me find a pair of 180 + cm park skis that have ZERO rocker. i like regular camber please and thank you. also, i like something wider than 90 and this is where the problem comes in because apparently anything more than 90 underfoot means its an "all-mountain" ski and therefore requires "all mtn rocker" or "all terrain rocker" or "everyone else has rocker so our company is doing it too rocker"

am i taking crazy pills or is anybody else on my side on this issue?
Dec 2 2012 10:49PM
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Dr.Dickless
Posts: 2620 - Karma: 1,392
http://www.momentskis.com/shop/product/jib/
http://www.momentskis.com/shop/product/team/
http://armadaskis.com/product/skis/signature-series/thall/

but seriously if your willing to quit skiing because your too lazy to look for new skis we would be better off without you

http://armadaskis.com/product/skis/ar-series/ar7/
Dec 3 2012 1:30AM
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traylortrash
Posts: 1935 - Karma: 2,451
you have to be kidding me... just snag some armadas or something... thalls are a favorite of mine.
Dec 3 2012 1:31AM
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JIB_WALRUS
Posts: 671 - Karma: 130
This.

Dec 3 2012 3:11AM
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hollygrove
Posts: 7845 - Karma: 93
choice made:

http://surfaceskis.squarespace.com/blog/2012/11/9/surface-blanks-explained.html
Dec 3 2012 3:22AM
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SkiFreshPow
Posts: 233 - Karma: 335
End of story
Dec 3 2012 3:50AM
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Joerga
Posts: 431 - Karma: 3,798
Rossignol Storm! This Ski is so sick and not as hard as the Atomic Punx. Love the flex from the Storm.
Dec 3 2012 5:17AM
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ski_ENDUB
Posts: 2535 - Karma: 86
APO Starsky, 92 underfoot regular camber. BOOM problem solved you can keep skiing
Dec 3 2012 5:31AM
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theschneidler
Posts: 2099 - Karma: 355
Atomic Punx in 182
Dec 3 2012 6:15AM
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coxworth49
Posts: 111 - Karma: 28
oh yeah shit, forgot about them, and yeah what is a benderrr
Dec 3 2012 8:29AM
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WeathermanPetro
Posts: 239 - Karma: 228
What's wrong with rocker?
Dec 3 2012 8:43AM
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SSteezle
Posts: 9338 - Karma: 6,666
grudge really isn't the right word here. He simply just doesn't like rockered park skis and neither do I. It makes zero sense to me to have my edges not touching the snow when all i'll be riding is park/groomers. It may make my skis ski shorter, but I don't want that, I wanna be able to dig in every bit of edge I have when I'm carving switch down a groomer. It's all preference, some people like rockered park skis and I can respect that, I just really hope they still continue to make traditional camber park skis
Dec 3 2012 8:47AM
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FerrisBueller
Posts: 8280 - Karma: 5,173
you are a bender


get thalls
Dec 3 2012 8:48AM
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jksl
Posts: 12727 - Karma: 854
no they don't
Dec 3 2012 9:39AM
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andrewblackie
Posts: 292 - Karma: 109
Yeah I agree, fair enough if you don't like them and have actually had experience riding them, but my Alpha 1s are some of the most fun skis I've ever riden in the park and on groomers, and I've never once had a problem with holding an edge - if anything I think they held a better edge than my previous AR6s. I might be totally wrong in saying this, but if you really have that much trouble skiing with them, it sounds like you're probably a park rat with a pretty poor all round ability.
Dec 3 2012 9:47AM
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_Garagely_
Posts: 1948 - Karma: 3,252
Atomic Patent, Line TC, ect. You'll find something.
Dec 3 2012 9:48AM
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Pipe_Munky
Posts: 10888 - Karma: 2,184
Volkl Wall 185

I wanted a full camber park ski too. Then I went and got one instead of thinking I would quit skiing...
Dec 3 2012 9:57AM
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mphL0ck5
Posts: 43 - Karma: 92
When you're properly carving, rocker actually digs in the snow the same way a normal camber would. All rocker does on the groomers is making your ski more playful and your turn initiation easier.
My Line Sir Francis Beacons carve 10 times better on groomers than my Stepups. Enough said.
Dec 3 2012 10:13AM
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SSteezle
Posts: 9338 - Karma: 6,666
it really is all preference and the way you ski. The way I ski, i hold an edge better on traditional camber skis. enough said
Dec 3 2012 10:32AM
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blindside
Posts: 5619 - Karma: 1,201
You realize rocker can provided MORE effective edge when carving than traditional camber..


This thread hurts my soul.
Dec 3 2012 10:39AM
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Caspaaa
Posts: 4830 - Karma: 1,466
bender...

you should tape up those ankles man
Dec 3 2012 10:43AM
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DUKES
Posts: 5150 - Karma: 691
have 2 park skis. 1 stiff normal cambered for jumps, groomers, and the occasional rail. 1 rockered and softer for rail specifics
Dec 3 2012 10:50AM
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raull
Posts: 384 - Karma: 2,232
ill believe that the day when world cup racers start using rockered skis during races. carving is most efficiently done with regular camber skis and that is an irrefutable fact. if what you say is true than every racer would be using rockered skis to get a better edge, however, they DONT and therefore you can suck a boner.




Dec 3 2012 11:00AM
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whynotski226
Posts: 146 - Karma: 39
this
Dec 3 2012 11:02AM
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jfletcher
Posts: 1208 - Karma: 188
may have to quit driving because this shit doesn't make sense
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Dec 3 2012 11:07AM
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RubberSoul
Posts: 11249 - Karma: 14,642
armada arv, trad camber and 90 something in the waist
Dec 3 2012 11:29AM
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SSteezle
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Dec 3 2012 11:33AM
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crab_pretzel
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.
Dec 3 2012 11:40AM
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TotallyTrevor
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Im going to stop making edits because now you can use internet on your phone
Dec 3 2012 11:43AM
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mphL0ck5
Posts: 43 - Karma: 92
Dynastar, Nordica and Rossignol HAVE rocker in their 2012-13 race skis. Rocker is better, you people obviously don't know what you are talking about and should learn how to properly carve a ski.
http://www.dynastar.com/CG/CA/speed-course-wc-r18_DA2DA01_product_dynastar-skis-men-race.html
Dec 3 2012 11:53AM
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Stickity
Posts: 7750 - Karma: 769
we should all just kill ourselves because evolution.
Dec 3 2012 11:56AM
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fillup
Posts: 4904 - Karma: 568
Maybe i just broke them like all my other pairs of surfaces.
Dec 3 2012 11:57AM
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doGelyst
Posts: 2492 - Karma: 509
Rocker = 3D TVs.

cool thing to have, but not a necessity, and not for everyone either.
Dec 3 2012 11:58AM
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blindside
Posts: 5619 - Karma: 1,201
You don't deserve rocker.
Dec 3 2012 12:11PM
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Rodigan
Posts: 1309 - Karma: 1,882
In the UK a gay person may be referred to as a bender. Armada sell Tanner Hall skis. This should help.
Dec 3 2012 12:15PM
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CrotchKiller
Posts: 9037 - Karma: 6,943
bullshit
Dec 3 2012 7:01PM
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oil.
Posts: 2255 - Karma: 1,254
someone doesn't know how to carve.
outside ski pressureeeee
Dec 3 2012 7:08PM
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last_tango
Posts: 2635 - Karma: 2,665
Some companies can do rocker right. Demoed iorn maidens and they rode like absolute shit. Demoed volkl bridge and they were fucking awesome. I get the whole camber thing, I feel like I can adjust my turning while on edge and you just don't get that pop you get on camberd skis. Keep a open mind and try some different rocker profiles from different companies.
Dec 3 2012 8:29PM
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timC
Posts: 344 - Karma: 117
OP is an idiot, RMU diam is 92 underfoot and full camber
Dec 3 2012 8:38PM
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Elmo.
Posts: 4317 - Karma: 662
this. this indeed



Dec 3 2012 8:42PM
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blindside
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You would.
Dec 4 2012 12:18AM
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Montana_Hoodrat
Posts: 1953 - Karma: 1,481
Armada ARV 185 cm
E dollo rocks them

they have full camber

they are wide
Dec 4 2012 12:24AM
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250r
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look at how the 4frnt hojis are made, the rocker profile matches the side cut. Think about the shape of a ski in a carve, and how the shovel wouldnt be used when carving with a cambered ski, where as the with a rockered ski you can use a good amount more of it once you are on edge since it is a more gradual shape which would allow for more contact.
Dec 4 2012 1:25AM
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FUUUCK
Posts: 18426 - Karma: 4,889
has some early rise to it, like the new chronic
Dec 4 2012 1:42AM
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Dr.Dickless
Posts: 2620 - Karma: 1,392
oh thats why all racing skis are rockered, it all makes sense now
Dec 4 2012 1:52AM
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aj_everly
Posts: 563 - Karma: 213
mount hellbents upside down is the only solution
Dec 4 2012 1:52AM
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FUUUCK
Posts: 18426 - Karma: 4,889
burying the tips? you mean tip dive? that's not desirable if you're skiing anything other than a flat open pow field. If you're tips dive you're going to go over the handlebars if you drop anything. I don't see how that's what pow skiing is "all about"
Dec 4 2012 1:53AM
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CrotchKiller
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Great, the profile might match the side cut but you still have to lay the ski over on edge further to initiate solid contact with the snow.
Dec 4 2012 2:16AM
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wreck_720
Posts: 135 - Karma: 47
Go with a mustache rocker (rocker tip/tail with camber underfoot). I was just like you till I tried them. Carve better than any ski i've ever been on, never catch edges, turn way faster and they rip the bumps. Seriously demo them in any condition and you will love them. I ride the Moment Vice btw.
Dec 4 2012 2:20AM
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Nicko1981
Posts: 527 - Karma: 180
Have a look at the Liberty Morphic, 94 underfoot, standard camber, comes in 181 and 186.
Dec 4 2012 6:22AM
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mphL0ck5
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Bro, read the thread, Nordica, Dynastar and Rossignol all have rocker in their 2012-13 GS race skis.
Dec 4 2012 7:46AM
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