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Having second thoughts about my purchase, need help!

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SirBooley
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SO ns,

Last week i bought some rossi fks's to throw on my Atomic Theorys. I got them mounted +3 from factory recommended, which is a little back from true center. I am happy with where i mounted them. They ski nicely, and i'm stoked on them!

HOWEVER…

I also bought a pair of Nordica Ace of Spades boots (got a smokin deal on last year's) and after riding on them for two days i am a little dismayed. The fit doesn't seem quite right (not quite tight enough…i feel like they're going to be too big once they pack out), and the flex pattern is stiff enough, but it is not smooth. I found my shins sore and "pinched" and the back of my legs hurting as well when in the park.

SO…

If i return my boots and get store credit for another pair that fits better (open to recommendations…full tilts are on the radar because of the hype about flex…but doesn't mean that's what i'm getting) what are my options for remounting? Obviously a different boot shell isn't going to be the same fit as my nordicas…so will i still be able to remount my fks's to fix this problem or am i fucked?

Thanks so much!

tl;dr: I'm worried about my boots, may get a new pair…fks remounting questions.
Nov 25 2012 10:59PM
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SirBooley
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+k for helpful answers, i would really appreciate some good opinions!
Nov 25 2012 11:00PM
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Lucas
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just get a boot that has close to the same bsl. (boot sole length)
Nov 25 2012 11:01PM
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SirBooley
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true, but i want to get the right fitting boot. IMO that's the most essential part of anyone's set up! So without knowing what the perfect boot is yet, do i still have remount options?
Nov 25 2012 11:04PM
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JStrathern
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I don't know about FKS but most bindings move +/-1cm so as long as the BSL isn't roughly more or less than 1cm different from your current BSL you shouldn't have to remount
Nov 25 2012 11:11PM
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SirBooley
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did not know that! that could help a lot +k to both of you
Nov 25 2012 11:13PM
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Auschie
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I thought FKS's are the only binding that can't be moved +/- 1 cm or whatever. I know STH's and most others do but I think FKS's don't. Tough decision but maybe just remount them center
Nov 25 2012 11:37PM
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SirBooley
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shit. +K anyways.

Does anybody have a definitive answer/experience with this kind of thing?
Nov 25 2012 11:39PM
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a.bott
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ive got look pivots (basically fks haha) and i no that they will not move
Nov 26 2012 12:02AM
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Heart
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Here people are saying that the fks has up to 1cm of movement:

https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/531021/

Anyway, remounting your skis to a slightly differenct spot is better than having to ride in boots that are uncomfortable. go look at some other boots
Nov 26 2012 12:03AM
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SirBooley
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word that's what i thought. Well from here i guess i'll see what i can do with new boots, and then will have to see about a remount. possibly a hair forward or aft depending on the boot.

thanks for the help guiz +K
Nov 26 2012 12:03AM
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SirBooley
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ok great! didn't see your post before.

That's good news at least. So maybe new boots will end up working after all. I'll just have to talk to the shop tech when buying a new pair.

NS to the rescue, +K to all
Nov 26 2012 12:09AM
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El_Barto.
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yes they do. there are screws on the back of the arms that can be adjusted.
Nov 26 2012 12:16AM
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.RYAN66
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then you are dumb. they have 7mm of play both ways. rossi says 10, which is what most bindings have, but from experience it is 7.
Nov 26 2012 12:20AM
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a.bott
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Ooh shit you're right! Just checked that out, my bad.
Nov 26 2012 12:27AM
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El_Barto.
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it happens
Nov 26 2012 12:28AM
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NinetyFour
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If the FKS adjustment won't compensate for a new boot then I would suggest moving the bindings forward closer to centre on your Theory's. Your stance will become a hair more neutral but I doubt you will find a major difference (if any) between the two positions. Trying to find a better fitting boot in this scenario is the right thing to do forsure man.
Nov 26 2012 12:42AM
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NoSkillsCrew
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Step 1. go to a bootfitter get better fitting boots.

Step 2. take skis and boots to shop have them set for correct forward pressure.

The fks has about a cm of movement in the heel piece so unless you drastically change lengths rather than just a narrower boot you should be fine.
Nov 26 2012 1:52AM
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SwagtasticWalrus
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Get good fitting boots. That's what matters most. If you have to remount, that sucks but it won't affect the performance of the ski. The fks does have a minimal amount of movement. Hopefully you don't have to remount. Good luck!
Nov 26 2012 2:23AM
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SirBooley
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thanks guys! this is great advice. +K to all
Nov 26 2012 7:02AM
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mlp
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Even if you have to remount your bindings its not that big of a deal.
Skis are good for at lest 3 remounts.
You wont notice a difference
Nov 26 2012 12:13PM
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SirBooley
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Thanks to all +K

THIS JUST IN: got some full tilts…returned those Ace of Spades. I got the Classics from last year (so they still have the pro liner) in the same mondo size as the Spades…but they fit SO much better. I decided not to get them heat molded, and just to pack them out naturally. Once they break in i'm sure they'll be dope…the fit is perfectly snug all around.

Now i'll have to see what happens with the binders. The BSL on the full tilts is exactly 7mm shorter than the AoS…which is what you guys thought the actual FKS binding tweak could muster. So either i will literally fit perfectly, or will be just short and will have to remount. But i'm hoping for the first option.

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Nov 26 2012 5:25PM
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ForeverYung
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Heat mold them
Nov 26 2012 6:33PM
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SirBooley
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why not just natty break in? shop dude said it would be just as good.
Nov 26 2012 7:56PM
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SwagtasticWalrus
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Heat mold is just faster. But I usually just break em in myself
Nov 26 2012 8:27PM
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SirBooley
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idk if it's conspiracy or not, but i've heard from some that heat molding can slightly compromise the integrity of the intuition liner and its foam.

maybe not but i'm gonna stick to natty break in
Nov 26 2012 8:37PM
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Crispy.
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Honestly you have no knowledge on FKSs if you don't think they can adjust. The arms on the heel piece (which are what determine the forward pressure) can be adjusted. If you get a boot around the same BSL (+9/-9) you should be fine. The shop will or at least should readjust the bindings to accommodate for the boots.
Nov 26 2012 9:19PM
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no_steeze
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the fks's should adjust to fit the new boots, although it will be close. if the bsl on the full tilts is that much shorter then it sounds like the nordicas were too big
Nov 26 2012 9:20PM
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SirBooley
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the bsl on the nordicas is around 7mm longer. the Ft's will be perfect though, and i think the FKS's should accommodate the change based on what i've heard!

not sure why i got the AOS in hindsight…the boot fitter didn't seem too on point, but i couldn't pass up the half off deal at the time.
Nov 26 2012 9:24PM
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a.bott
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i was already corrcted twice, read the thread and calm down
Nov 26 2012 9:46PM
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Kreech
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Nah you can mold them three times before they get messed up. The whole point of intuition liners is to have a custom fit to your foot, so why wouldn't you heat mold? Also, I would highly reccommend footbeds. It will help a lot with the fit and feel of the boot for sure.
Nov 27 2012 2:52AM
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Big_Willy
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Aren't Ft's very similar to the Nordicas?
Nov 27 2012 6:24AM
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SirBooley
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like buying a freestyle footbed instead of the rigid one it comes with? or custom insoles? or what do you mean?
Nov 27 2012 6:29PM
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vr8
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Result of the FKS adjustment? Sorta getting myself in the same tarp at the moment...
Jan 29 2013 5:38PM
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Mag
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No... Full tilts just have a shorter bsl in general, maybe thinner plastic around the heel/toe.
Jan 29 2013 6:40PM
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