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Chronic vs ARV

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Cotter
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Hey guys so here's my info: I'm looking for a pair of skis that are around 92mm underfoot so that when I go outwest I can ski more comfortably on the powder. However I also would like it to be able to perform in park so I've done some research and found that the Line Chronic and the Armada ARV look pretty good to me budget wise and spec wise. However the chronic has early rise and the ARV dose not. I'm ~6'1 and 170lbs I will be using them on days where we get our little east coast pow dumps and in deeper pow outwest as well as in tree runs. They need to last me a couple years. I'm an advanced skier. Which ski do you think will perform better for what I wan't it to do aswell as last longer? P.S my apologies for wall of text I'm on mobile
Nov 14 2012 7:50AM
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last_tango
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The ARV will get rocker in them by the end of the season. The arv is so buttery in the nose and are stiff under foot with a just stiff enough tail.Don't have much experience with the chronics other than flexing them in the shop and they are overall stiffer than the chronics. They both are bomber proof. I have Thalls that have been through 3 seasons and they haven't snapped on me and K2's build is pretty bomb proof.

The question really is do you want a stiffer flex or a softer flex.
Nov 14 2012 9:19AM
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Cotter
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How will they get rocker? Like they will bend into it?
Nov 14 2012 3:55PM
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Bertrand
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Don't know if this will be relevant. I had 2008 ARV's. They had tip rocker that looked like early rise, developed after a while. They became flat underfoot. They were also noodles. Don't know if they have changed the construction since then, but that was my experience with them. Didn't really like them
Nov 14 2012 4:21PM
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last_tango
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After some use and I feel like happen too soon they loose their camber and the tips kinda get early rise like the guy above me mentioned. The same thing happened with my thalls.
Nov 14 2012 4:49PM
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Cotter
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Ah I see, that dosent seem all appealing
Nov 14 2012 5:30PM
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Cotter
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Ok so I ordered chronics but it turns out they are out of stock. Id rather buy from my shop instead of online. SO I've changed my mind they dont need to be 92mm underfoot or around there but I'd prefer if they were over 87mm Underfoot.

What skis?
Nov 22 2012 8:40PM
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SkiTheYeast
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just get the chronics! they are the best ski ive ever ridden stiff underfoot yet buttery in the tip and tail
Nov 22 2012 8:48PM
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Cotter
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Ok so read my final comment more carefully. I had them special order them in and they are out of stock. I'd rather not order skis online.
Nov 22 2012 8:51PM
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SkiTheYeast
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I read your comment and you said "what skis" and I'm saying if you get the chronics you will not regret it ask your shop of they can get them and buy through them
Nov 22 2012 9:15PM
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Cotter
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They Cant! Line is out of them!
Nov 22 2012 9:18PM
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SkiTheYeast
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They why can I order them directly from line but your shop can't? Either way I'd say just order them off the Internet even if you don't want to. If you get them you will not be disappointed
Nov 22 2012 10:05PM
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Cotter
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from their website
THIS PRODUCT IS CURRENTLY UNAVAILABLE, CHECK BACK SOON.
Nov 22 2012 10:16PM
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SkiTheYeast
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Oh it's showing that I can buy any size. But whatever I still think if you have a pair of skis that can be used in the mean time I'd hold out for the chronics
Nov 22 2012 10:40PM
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Nate.Dog
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Get the arv's man, just watch a day in the life with edollo, they look like so much fun and are usable all over the mountain, plus sick park skis for buttering around. It's been proven that if you use arvs you will butter dub 10.
Nov 23 2012 12:30AM
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Pikachu.
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if your still lookin for another ski check out the rossignol scimitar. I think it fits a lot of your criteria
Nov 23 2012 12:46AM
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Urban.
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Line Blend... i would get the ARV though.
Nov 23 2012 12:57AM
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randhero
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ARVs are fantastic skis, I've been on mine for 3 seasons and they're still going strong. Even worked ok in Japan :D
Nov 23 2012 8:25AM
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Twig
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The Blend is a lot closer to the ARV than the Chronic. Soft tip and Tail but fairly solid underfoot. Chronics are mid flex pretty much all the way through the ski, more or less a park ski with a little all mountain ability.

Of the two I'd take the ARV for an all mountain ski.
Nov 23 2012 9:38AM
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Cotter
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I find the blend too wide. 100mm underfoot is pretty big.
Nov 23 2012 2:48PM
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Cotter
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I'm in toronto this weekend and I was able to pick up a pair of chronics at 500$ flat. stoked to get them mounted
Nov 24 2012 12:44PM
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Sharko
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Good, I hate it when I take my skis to Japan and they just won't go anymore.

Nov 24 2012 12:57PM
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Cotter
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Where should I mount them? I was thinking center..
Nov 26 2012 9:17AM
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Shabangarang
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THALL FOR THE WIN i was lookin at the arv an the thalls i went with the thalls soo glad i did prob the best ski ive had.
Nov 26 2012 9:22AM
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Cotter
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Well that's nice but I already bought skis and thalls weren't what I was looking for
Nov 26 2012 10:26AM
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Cotter
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Where should i mount them
Nov 28 2012 4:15PM
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Mex_LineJib^a
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2 to 4cm off center... depending on how much park vs allmt you'll do. no reason to center mount a non symmetrical twin.
Nov 28 2012 4:23PM
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iffe
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Do _NOT_ center mount if you want them to be decent in powder too. I'd say 3 cm back from true center.
Nov 28 2012 4:44PM
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pandasteeze
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ON3P JMO?
Nov 28 2012 4:58PM
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Cotter
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probably 70% park 30% all mountain plus 1 week of whistler pow
Nov 28 2012 6:19PM
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jiberish199
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armada!
Nov 28 2012 8:20PM
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SkiTheYeast
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I have mine mounted center and ski the same ratios as you. they still carve very well, but I don't know about pow if you think it's that big a deal for the whole week go 2 back for true center
Nov 28 2012 9:08PM
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De-Clan
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I have owned arvs and skied on my buddy's cronics, the arvs are the bomb, can't get a better ski for what ur talking about, I also live on the east coast and skied new Hampshire every weekend, great ski for everything, the park they handle well and on some cord they feel nice, the cronics are kinda weird imo idk but they feel like ur only skiing on like the middle part of the ski under ur boot, def get the arvs u will not regret them
Nov 28 2012 9:33PM
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Cotter
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so -2 from dead center, will that affect rails?
Nov 28 2012 9:35PM
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Twig
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How much pow do you really get to ski? I mean if its a few days a year, but you ski park all season, I'd suffer the centre mount for the improved balance in the park. I liked centre on groomed on this ski, it's only pow it will negatively affect. Bare in mind they aren't exactly going to rule pow at -2 or -4 though, they are still basically a park ski.
Nov 29 2012 4:43AM
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Cotter
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yeah I'm only skiing about 9 days of pow

Nov 29 2012 7:18AM
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Twig
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deal with it then, go centre and if you get an incredible day, rent some fat skis.
Nov 29 2012 8:11AM
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SkiTheYeast
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I would sacrifice pow riding to have a better balance point in the park
Nov 29 2012 8:25AM
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Cotter
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They are not a symetrical ski, so for top performance would -2cm be better?
Nov 30 2012 8:35PM
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iffe
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I think so, yes. I have the Chronics and mounted them at -2 for 100% park. Very good mount, wouldn't have it any other way.
Dec 1 2012 9:06AM
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SkiTheYeast
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Its really just preferance. go where you think youll like them best.
Dec 1 2012 4:06PM
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Twig
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i can report that centre is almost unbearable in pow over a foot.
Dec 1 2012 6:22PM
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iffe
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Yeah, even the 2 cm will make a world of difference on groomers and pow.
Dec 2 2012 5:08AM
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Cotter
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will it make a world of difference for balancing on rails?
Dec 2 2012 10:27AM
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iffe
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In my experience, not at all. -2 will actually put your balance point closer to the center of the ski than a true center mount. This is because the mount is measured from the center of the boot, whereas your balance point is actually a bit more forward, under the ball of your foot. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, -2 is my park mount and I really like it.
Dec 2 2012 11:57AM
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Cotter
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i generally slide rails with the rails right under my foot, if im doing a nose press the ball of my foot would be closer to center

Dec 2 2012 6:26PM
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