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NotoriousT.S.E
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Who here plays? I just started in may/june and I cant stop playing and learning new songs. Currently trying to get my barre chords down right now becuaes iv been avoiding them.
Nov 11 2012 11:53AM
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corona
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I'm the best guitarist on the mountain.
Nov 11 2012 11:57AM
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.AR6rider.
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While I may not be the best guitar player on the mountain, I can still hold my own on both electric and acoustic.
Nov 11 2012 11:58AM
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JakeAssBeatClap
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I remember being a wee lad and hating bar chords. I have been playing like 10 years now though stay with you always get better.
Nov 11 2012 12:00PM
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TallerThanThou
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Guitar is how I make money. So that's cool. KEep up the solid work constantly learning shit. And learn to read music. That's the most important thing.
Nov 11 2012 12:30PM
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corona
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completely disagree.
Nov 11 2012 12:41PM
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.AR6rider.
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I agree with your disagreement. Tabs have made reading music obsolete.
Nov 11 2012 12:43PM
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dodgey
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tabs suck and teach you nothing. they're usually either totally wrong or in the wrong key. being able to read actual music is a necessity to be taken seriously by real musicians, plus it allows you to actually understand how the music works and what makes up chords and how everything fits together to make a song what it is. tabs have made understanding music irrelevant to playing it. it's the autotune of guitar
Nov 11 2012 12:52PM
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TallerThanThou
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Thank you.
Nov 11 2012 12:54PM
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Hughes
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irrelevant bullshit.
If you're not planning on becoming a fucking concert classical guitarist why would you waste your time with learning to read music? with tabs you can just get on with it and play...
Nov 11 2012 12:58PM
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TallerThanThou
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Basically, if you want to have music as a career, learn to read. If you just want to strum power chords, use tabs.
Nov 11 2012 1:00PM
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.AR6rider.
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Guess I'm not a real musician then. Oh well. The 15+ years I've spent practicing and playing guitar have been completely and utterly wasted. Fuck.
Nov 11 2012 1:00PM
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JakeAssBeatClap
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I play by ear. I used to know how to read actual music for guitar like notes and composition but I haven't used it in so long. I just play by ear. I think that is some REAL shit and takes more talent than reading any sort of tab or composition.

It's all what comes out of it. I don't think it matters how you get there whether you use tabs, a composition, or your ears i think what truly matters is the style, creativity, and what you do to make a song your own. (if you're playing a song written by another person that is)
Nov 11 2012 1:01PM
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NotoriousT.S.E
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Yeah pretty much everything i know is from youtube videos. This guy marty schwarts( youtube.com/martyzsongs) does incredible instructional videos. I was watching one and he said if you leave a comment he'll select one person to win like hundreds of his dvs and a lifetime membership to his website etc. Well I left a comment and actually won and he sent me everything. Probably the luckiest thing to ever happen.
Nov 11 2012 1:01PM
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Darth.Maul
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Been playing guitar for 6 years now and bass for 2 1/2 years
Nov 11 2012 1:19PM
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dhess
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Just started like a month ago and its mad fun! Although I only know a few chords
Nov 11 2012 1:26PM
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Darth.Maul
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If anyone has any questions about songs, chords, theory, anything just hit me up.
Nov 11 2012 1:27PM
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steezbox
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How do you confuse a guitar player?





Put sheet music in front of him.






Shitty joke. Anyways, if you are serious about learning jazz or classical, reading music is very important. I am just starting to delve into the jazz world and that stuff is difficult as fuck. I can't note read very well at all. But what you should do is learn songs by ear. That is another thing i neglected for a long time, and am only now starting to get better at. It will help you a lot.

Anybody who says that you need to know how to note read to be a serious musician is a bit ignorant though. I would say the majority of bands out there right now can't or don't ever need to note read because it is irrelevant to what they are doing. And i am not just talking about shitty folk bands that can only play simple chords.
Nov 11 2012 1:32PM
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ILLinoisance
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Tell that to Hendrix and Stevie Ray Vaughan who never learned to read sheet music.

If you want to make a career on playing other peoples' music, then learn to read music.
Nov 11 2012 1:35PM
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Spinoza
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All that matters is if it sounds good. Who cares how someone gets there, so long as they can do it
Nov 11 2012 1:36PM
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roddy116
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tried it, stuck with piano
Nov 11 2012 1:36PM
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Amadeus.
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Being a classical composer who attends a conservatory (who thinks he knows something about music) I have to say this is only partially true. As an electric guitar player I have played with multiple bands and on multiple albums and I have never once encountered needing to sight read anything. Its good to have musical knowledge but necessarily being able to sight read on the electric guitar is not needed. Being able to read a chord chart is another story. If you really want to get in theory learn the piano and that being said I can safely say that learning how to sight read orchestral scores on the piano has never come in handy for me in rock music sessions haha. I agree though that tabs are a crutch but If you dont necessarily read standard western notation that doesn't make you any less of a musician. \

Now here is a treat. I guess ill throw ups some of my youtube videos for y'all.

And I know everyone just cares about the shredding so ill post the solo times.

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2:30 3:29



0:10, 2:30, 3:50





Nov 11 2012 1:39PM
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sweet_caroline
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Awwwwww yissss
Nov 11 2012 1:50PM
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Stickity
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john mayer songs are the most fun to play imo
i also play bass and i desperately need to find a group to play with at penn state
Nov 11 2012 1:52PM
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Spiri7o
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I play a little, girls dig it
Nov 11 2012 1:53PM
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corona
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hahahahaha



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none of them could read music.
Nov 11 2012 1:54PM
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Stickity
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slash blows penis. i can't stand him.
but is learning to read going to hurt anyone? no. and neither is a little theory which i recommend as well
Nov 11 2012 1:56PM
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corona
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learning to read music is great. I highly recommend it. But saying it's the most important thing and you won't get anywhere without it is complete and utter bullshit. If you're saying that you're one hell of a stuck up prick who's destined to be studio musician for life.
Nov 11 2012 2:00PM
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NotoriousT.S.E
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Yeah John Mayers really fun, his version of free fallin is amazing.
Nov 11 2012 2:10PM
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yippie
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e.wait can. He was potentially going to senerade "his" girl with it.
Nov 11 2012 2:14PM
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powderdrunkie
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It's not going to hurt anyone, but it IS a waste of time. For guitar anyway.

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Nov 11 2012 2:33PM
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corona
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not a waste of time either.
Nov 11 2012 2:39PM
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arnie_grape
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I play guitar. I'm still working on getting my songs recorded well and mixed so I don't have any to post. other than that most recent song I learned was this.

Nov 11 2012 2:41PM
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steezbox
Posts: 1394 - Karma: 701
What is your band called? And are you by any chance a fellow 7 stringer? (This question based off the fact that you posted a song that uses Drop G#).
Nov 11 2012 3:00PM
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powderdrunkie
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ok you're right it's not a WASTE of time. I've been playing guitar for 15 years and I've never needed to read music (I can though).

My father has been playing for 40+ years, plays in 4 different bands for a living, and the only time he reads music is when he plays the keys, or the mandolin. He is very familiar with sight reading and all, but never needs to use it.

For certain jobs it's required and I realize that. I have never really seen it pay off for guitar though is basically what I meant. everyone is different.
Nov 11 2012 3:06PM
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division.bell
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Totally agree.

I've been playing guitar for nearly 17 years now, with 8 years of classical piano and 7 years of trumpet and one or two years of percussion. Guitar is the only one of those instruments that I don't feel obligated to be able to read music. That's not saying I can't, but I much prefer using my ears to create, or play music on the guitar instead of following along on the sheet. I do also think tab has made life easier for beginning/learning guitar players, but I personally despise tab.

Having a strong background in music theory has definitely been beneficial to my guitar playing, but I wouldn't ever say I rely on it for my playing. Granted, I play for myself and have not played seriously with other musicians for many years now. Even when I did, the ability to read music was the last thing on our minds.

Bottom line, if you think it could benefit your playing, it shouldn't be considered a waste of time. It's also not for everyone, so it's really a matter of preference. I didn't have a choice as I was forced to take piano lessons starting at a very young age and reading sheet music just naturally carried over to the guitar, but I definitely consider myself lucky that I was forced to take all of that training now that I look back on it.
Nov 11 2012 3:44PM
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Hughes
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this. I study music and i can read it, i also know a fair amount of theory. Obviously, when you start composing with the guitar seriously you have to use sheet music...
Nov 11 2012 4:02PM
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GBS
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How the hell did you get so good? That was pure joy to listen your Whitesnake and Scorpion covers...
Nov 11 2012 5:00PM
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arnie_grape
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I don't have a band, I just write songs by myself but I have a friend with a lot of expensive recording equipment and he helps me produce and mix it, which is why it has taken over a year to not finish 5 songs. and I can't afford a 7-string unfortunately. I just put heavier strings on a 6-string then tuned down, so I can't play anything on the highest string.
Nov 11 2012 5:13PM
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NotGhood
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I play guitar
Nov 11 2012 5:25PM
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shuckle
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who doesn't
Nov 11 2012 7:08PM
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Stose
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Yeah I have been playing for 8 years and in taking ap music theory right now. I never compose on the guitar though. Only piano
Nov 11 2012 7:29PM
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Ski_The_E
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I started sort of and learned blackbird, but I never really got into it. I'm thinking of starting again anyone know any good songs to start with?
Nov 11 2012 7:31PM
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JeremyClarkson
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been playing guitar and bass for 8 yrs bruh
Nov 11 2012 7:34PM
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Stickity
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i've heard of so many people talking about the contortionist lately and i can't stand them. as far as i've seen, there's nothing they do that bands like between the buried and me doesn't do better. it sounds so.... tired and jaded. it doesn't even sound heavy, just spacey chords and chugging
Nov 11 2012 7:35PM
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Sno.
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My husband plays but he drives me nuts because he never finishes a song that he starts. He'll think of a good new song to learn-- look up the tabs, and learn just enough that it starts to sound good and then move on to another song. I have yet to hear, in 10+ years, a single song from start to finish.
Nov 11 2012 7:37PM
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Stickity
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wait what. when did i say it was the most important thing? i said it wouldn't hurt and think it's a helpful thing to know since it'd be easier to learn a ridiculous song through reading than spending a week learning one solo. i've learned more through improvising and theory than actually reading. a big part of how i choose which artists i listen to are how well they can improvise or show more than technical precision. you made a fuckton of assumptions without any context
Nov 11 2012 7:41PM
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ILLinoisance
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haha, that's exactly how i am.
Nov 11 2012 7:42PM
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king.tubby
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try and play at least an hour a day. just learned "the rainbow connection" the other day. supes easy and fun.
aside from skiing and my dog, playing guitar is like the greatest joy in my life
Nov 11 2012 7:44PM
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7-3instacall
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im at your stage, fucking with bar chords
inventing stuff, covering stuff
been fucking with it for a year
still not over it, at all
Nov 11 2012 8:15PM
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steezbox
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I know I posted the exact same thing to you in another thread, but listen to stuff off of exoplanet. That isn't honestly one of the heaviest albums I know. Diminished chord chugs all over the place all over the place (but they manage to make it sound original - not a typical breakdown). Oscillator, and Flourish are my favourites, but really the whole album needs to be listened to at once. Fun stuff to play on guitar too.

I feel that you have only listened to Intrinsic, which i am not a fan of at all really, with the exception of three songs.
Nov 11 2012 9:17PM
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