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j.bird
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Are a fucking JOKE.

I can't use NS at work now for fear that some stupid whore is going to pop up on the screen showing her gross tits.

Get your shit together NS. I understand that FD and Lesh "don't give a fuck" and are "shaking up a stagnant industry, doing what they want" but you have to draw the line somewhere. If they want to kill all of their sites adult traffic (people with money to actually buy shit), and have a surge in horny 12 year old kids, then let them do that.

If you want to continue losing daily users because they will literally be reprimanded for using the site at work due to inappropriate content, then I guess that's your call but it is a fucking stupid one.

-Annoyed user who spends less and less time on the site after being an avid user for almost 10 years.
Nov 5 2012 12:08PM
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theschneidler
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I agree with you, not a big fan of FD because of stupid shit like that. Tell them to simmer.
Nov 5 2012 3:50PM
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Anti_Panda
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maybe you should do work at work instead of NS at work?
Nov 5 2012 4:08PM
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JWeinstock
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hmmmm i wonder if i have ever seen a thread on this before... adblocker
Nov 5 2012 5:40PM
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j.bird
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Thanks Boss.

There are these things called "breaks". Doesn't sound like you have ever had a real job with a computer other than a cash register.
Nov 5 2012 6:09PM
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j.bird
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Doesn't block ads that run before the videos, which is the ad that I specifically mentioned.
Nov 5 2012 6:11PM
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Anti_Panda
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ouch...that sure was a zinger you got me with. Only thing you left out was critizing my burger flipping skills
Nov 5 2012 6:23PM
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OGoriginal-gaper
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why do you give two shits
Nov 5 2012 11:33PM
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JAHpow
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I agree, it's embarrassing going on NS in between classes and having one of those ads pop up when other people are around.
Nov 6 2012 12:05AM
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Mr.Bishop
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I'm afraid that the stats tell me that we're gaining daily users.

This has nothing to do with FD wear. This is the fact that I refuse to ban non-porn on the site. Everything is covered, and I'm not going to stand by while we let the corporate world whitewash our site.

If you can't view the websites you want in a cubicle, maybe you either shouldn't be on NS in that cubicle, or you shouldn't be in that cubicle.

I will say it now and forever, the line holds. I will NOT allow this site to become whitewashed with fucking polish. That is what the other ski websites are for.
Nov 6 2012 8:59AM
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Mr.Bishop
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And please don't take that as an attack - I just really stand by this issue.
Nov 6 2012 8:59AM
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.frenchy
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The sled and car drifting ads are tight. It's just the one with some GIRL PLAYING WITH HER TITS... You must of not been put into the situation where you had employees, teachers, peers behind you. It's awkward as fuck. That's all.

I mean the ad is great if I'm home alone..
Nov 6 2012 9:03AM
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Mr.Bishop
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I have employees and peers behind me. I have a wife, a child and a mother in law that have sat there while I watched it.

They laugh, say "what are you watching?"

I say "newschoolers. You wouldn't get it."

They shrug, giggle and conversation over.
Nov 6 2012 9:06AM
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.frenchy
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Haha well lucky you then! My parents would think I'm watching porn or some shit, peers would think I'm weird, teachers would just give me more detention.

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I love you though Mr. B, I'm not attacking you either, just putting my 2 cents in, it's just a random ad to have, even on a ski site.

Can I even say this? I'd rather have double pits to chesty.... Or Mike Golec.... O shitttttt
Nov 6 2012 9:11AM
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j.bird
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How is not showing ads of girls bouncing their tits 'Corporate whitewash polish?' Why do we have to have them at all? If you want to look at that shit.. go to a site based on that.

Sounds like you have a real stick up your ass about people working in corporate environments. The fucked up part about that is, we are the ones who support the ski industry. Not some snot nosed 17 year old kid jerking off to FD ads.

Telling me that "maybe you shouldn't be in that cubicle" is a joke, I'm not sure what happened with your other gig, or why you came back to NS, but I am sensing some serious butt hurt regarding people who work corporate jobs. I realize you may want to have a job where you spend the day chatting with kids, dying your hair rainbow colors, and post stupid memes on the internet, but I want to make money.

And I know 10 people off the top of my head who work in the ski industry out of a cubicle, so really your argument is stupid.

I understand your censorship argument, but why push it just to push it? Whats the point? Just so you can say 'no corporate whitewash bullshit here'. Really seems worth it? Also, who owns NS now? A pretty corporate company who happen to cut pretty big checks.



Nov 6 2012 12:42PM
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j.bird
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Bahahahhaha employees and peers. Who? Schmuck, some green name, and an intern? Get out of here with that shit.

Get a job in the real world, and maybe you will get it.

Nov 6 2012 12:43PM
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Mr.Bishop
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My main thing here is that I'm not going to stop the behaviour because I feel that the site needs to be whitewashed in order to be safe for an average corporate working environment.

I didn't put those ads up. YOu're asking me to take them down to satiate your corporate environment. I disagree with that philosophy to the core. I will not stop perfectly legal behaviour because Newschoolers doesn't fit into a specific work environment which is what you asked of me.

I have a job in the real world. Newschoolers is owned by a very large corporation, which runs an office full of cubicles where you wouldn't not be allowed to watch videos like this. I technically work for my own Canadian company which has a contract to run Newschoolers, and we have an open-concept loft in downtown montreal. I own a house, have a wife, have a son, two cars and two dogs. My life is fantastic, because I have chosen a path where I get to live how I wish.

My employees are very professional - we just don't waste time worrying about stuff that doesn't matter. Its not green names and interns here, only adults with careers.

Again - I'm not hating on you. I'm simply stating that you can't ask us to whitewash the site to fit with your corporate environment. You can't ask to rip the soul out of NS so we can please your employer.

Nov 6 2012 3:22PM
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.Rybak.
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If you go on ns at work, school, etc and your peers, teachers or boss think its unacceptable to be on here you are the one running the risk of coming to ns during that time when you know this is going to happen.. Dont complain
Nov 6 2012 4:28PM
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Mr.Bishop
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Here's something I'm REALLY curious about -

The exact same ads are in Freeskier. Does this mean that you'll be fired for bringing a freeskier magazine to work if you accidentally open it to the FD Wear ad page?

For the rest of you at school - same question. Do they ban magazines with girls in them?

Nov 6 2012 4:41PM
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.frenchy
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I see you deleted my comment Mr.......

It's not the girls man, its the naked girls rubbing her tits for 10 seconds on my computer monitor.
Nov 6 2012 4:43PM
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Mr.Bishop
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Comment was dumb. Posting pictures of users does nothing.
Nov 6 2012 4:46PM
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.frenchy
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So was his callout saying I shouldn't go on NS during school? How dumb is that..
Nov 6 2012 4:48PM
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.Rybak.
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who ever said it was a callout i never said "dont go on ns" i was just saying to everyone that its your own risk.. i come on here when im at school all of the time
Nov 6 2012 4:53PM
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j.bird
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The problem is not being on NS. Skiing content is completely approved for work.

It's the roulette with borderline pornogrpahic ads. That's the unnecessary risk I am pointing out here.... Not sure how you missed that.
Nov 7 2012 11:48AM
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.Rybak.
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That's what I was trying to get at..
Nov 7 2012 11:56AM
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j.bird
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.....OK. So we can agree that it is an unnecessary risk, that is hurting the overall quality and viewership of the site. Thanks.

And honestly Bishop, you saying traffic is increasing is pretty irrelevant. There are THOUSANDS of factors that effect traffic, and I would argue the largest one is the overall popularity of the sport. Which has been exponentially growing since I joined.

I can accurately say that you ARE missing out on traffic, because I am one of those people that used to frequent the site much more. I personally know several others too.
Nov 7 2012 3:08PM
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Mr.Bishop
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Yes, I totally understand that you are unable to visit Newschoolers as much as you used to. Honestly, that totally sucks, and I really hate that what we are all about causes issues with viewing the site when you want.

However, I don't understand why you would argue that we should whitewash the entire site just to help your workplace? Even include everyone else in a workplace or school strict about completely covered girls...

WHere does it end?

For you see, its like free speech. You can't just trim one type of free speech and let the rest be protected. If we whitewash the ads to make it safe for your workplace, then we basically have to delete NSG and allow no further discussion. How far does it go?

In my mind, Newschoolers is a loose and fun environment. We're all skiers here, we're all about skiing, but we aren't about succumbing to the norms of life. Freeskiing is about being free, and if someone on this site wants to post something a little racy - but legal - then I am not going to stop it.

Believe you me - I understand the factors that affect traffic. I've been watching traffic all day every single day for basically the last 8 years straight. I'm very comfortable with what causes ups and downs in NS traffic.

It would be unbelievably silly business for us to cater to a corporate market. That is just simply not who we are.
Nov 7 2012 6:11PM
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family_vacation
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I know this is a lost cause and my opinion is 100% irrelevant.


But I agree with the OP. The ads were initially annoying yet funny. Now I can't really use the video section in public and I recently had the pleasure of watching the tits one with an entire CS class behind me. Talk about stats all you want, but haven't all the wonderful changes to the video section been made to enhance the experience for viewers? These ads take it away for someone who only uses NS in a public environment (a college student). Clearly there are other users who are having the same issues.


Can't we just go back to Double Pits to Chesty?
Nov 7 2012 7:47PM
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Plankton
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what about all the old lange ads? no one stopped reading ski mags
Nov 7 2012 9:34PM
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.frenchy
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Nobody is going to stop going to the video section either, it's just the times you go to the video section are now limited, no work or school, pretty much just free time at your house or somewhere relatively private. Nobody stopped reading the ski mags because you can read those pretty much anywhere, and you can hide them easier, and you know what page the ad is on.
Nov 7 2012 9:36PM
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Mr.Sloth
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OP hush. Do some work instead of going on newschoolers at work. It's the price you pay for going on the awesome website.
Nov 7 2012 9:39PM
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2_fadez
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THE THRILL I GET FROM COMPETING, I WOULDN'T CHANGE IT FOR ANYTHING ELSE
Nov 8 2012 12:30AM
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Mr.Bishop
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My dad had this on the wall when I was 6 years old and my brother 4. My mom thought it was hilarious.

Real adults don't care about a few covered titties. They're perfectly normal and acceptable. Hell try watching the ad at work and showing your boss... I bet they will laugh.

Nov 8 2012 9:47AM
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kingsskier
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If you want to look at work so badly, get a fucking smart phone and look on there. NS has a very nicely revamped mobile site...
I just wish I could read someone's feedback from it
Nov 8 2012 10:40AM
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Mr.Bishop
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Thread cleaned up for getting into stupid personal attacks. Lets debate the issues here, not get into childish name calling.

j.bird - listen man, I understand that this sucks for you. However, please try to understand things from our end as well. There are a very small number of people who have workplaces or schools so restrictive that something like this will cause the site to be blocked.

In order to appease those people, we would have to go through absolutely everything and completely whitewash the entire website. Right now, everything on NS keeps to perfectly legal standards of nudity, and that is the rules. If anyone wants to come close to those rules - but not cross over them - then that is their right to do so. Advertisers and users included.

I don't think that there is enough people on here that would want a mass cleanup of absolutely everything to warrant taking the extreme action to do so. I also don't believe that is what Newschoolers is about, nor does it affect us within the industry negatively in any way.

Freeskiing is loose and fun, and sometimes that is going to clash with the corporate world. Lots of people ski to escape that corporate world, and the last thing that we want to do is bow down to it.

I'm really sorry you have trouble browsing at work. Though I usually do not suggest this, perhaps an ad blocker for your situation would work out quite nicely. We alway advocate people to look at the ads - as it is the lifeblood of the website - but maybe if its a gamechanger at work you can just do it there.

Sound like a compromise you can live with?

Nov 9 2012 10:01AM
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skinakedfast
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hm, this is a depressing thread.It's amusing because FD is getting exactly what they want it's really a pretty great marketing scheme. People are remembering and discussing the ad.

oh BTW i added nothing i'm wicked bored
Nov 9 2012 12:35PM
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Plankton
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i have a question...has anyone here ever decided to buy a virtika jacket BECAUSE of an ad you saw on newschoolers of a chick wearing one? it seems to me like everyone on ns has already heard of the brand, and they are either planning on buying it or not. thoughts?
Nov 17 2012 10:03PM
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kingsskier
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I went to the website to check out this years gear because of the ads, being completely honest. I didn't buy anything, but it got them some site traffic.
Nov 17 2012 10:45PM
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heath
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That's not really the point, getting people to their site is what they want
Nov 18 2012 3:27AM
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RudyGarmisch
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But this is like the difference between classy porn and backroom bangslut bonanza. Lange introduces humor while keeping the "wild" spirit of freeskiing strong... not the same for me when its a hottie draped in a basketball jersey accusing me for looking at NSG with those dusky eyes....

But people, seriously? Like that ad is the most boobie to ever grace the computer screen you're typing on.
Nov 18 2012 3:27AM
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SkiBum.
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You are are fucking retard and need to drop this shit and get your shit together instead of just standing behind your "my site is the best" BS all the time.

Maybe take a step back and see that this is an issue to a lot of people.

Get off your high horse.
Nov 18 2012 6:06PM
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El_Barto.
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^how bout you get your own freeskiing site and run it how you want. Until then shut the fuck up. Dont like em, get the fuck off the site.
Nov 18 2012 6:51PM
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monkatizer
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yea, its really getting old. and bishop, you need to stop thinking that the whole world is going to change to accept your ads. just because you think its fine doesnt mean everyone does.

stop expecting schools to all of the sudden change polices and be fine with that shit being shown on computer screens throughout school.
Nov 18 2012 7:31PM
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heath
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You shouldn't be on NS at school.
Nov 18 2012 8:37PM
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JWeinstock
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its the only good site that isnt blocked
Nov 18 2012 9:41PM
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Mr.Sloth
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Why is this thread still here?


Nothing wrong with a little bit of danger when browsing. Hell I scroll through 4CHAN on school computers.
Nov 19 2012 9:42AM
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PASKIINGSUCKS
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I think I need to start watching more NS videos. Never seen the bewb rubbing ad yet. Although I'm off to find it right now.

Also I'm in a cubicle, at work, and I'm over thirty.

Sounds like your job sucks j bird.

Keep up the good work Doug.
Nov 19 2012 1:09PM
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Mr.Bishop
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But I took a step back, and it is only an issue to a small group of people compared to the larger community and traffic as a whole.

That is the problem - its a few angry people that are causing all the hate on this. The majority of members and the traffic to the site as a whole don't give a hoot.

Nov 19 2012 1:24PM
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Mr.Bishop
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Why would I expect the world to change? I'm simply stating that this site stands for a few things, and when the community backs us up - except for a few angry people - we're going to stick to it.

If your slice of society makes you unable to come to Newschoolers because of it, there are tonnes of awesome skiing websites out there to visit instead.

Nov 19 2012 1:26PM
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Mr.Bishop
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Oh, I do not disagree with you. However, what I stand for is the right to have either take on the subject.

The problem here is you can't ban one without the other.

If we start at covered breasts... where do we stop?

Nov 19 2012 1:27PM
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Ski_The_E
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quoting for emphasis
Nov 19 2012 1:31PM
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