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The Men Who Built America

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C-Burg
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It was a documentary on The History Channel, about Carnegie, Vanderbilt, Rockefeller, JP Morgan, and the business men after the Civil War. It was a great history lesson on business, entrepreneurs, and the risk associated with business. If you want to see it, it is on history.com
Oct 21 2012 8:54PM
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Anathema
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canada mother fucker
Oct 21 2012 8:55PM
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Aidan-G
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It's full of lies. I built America
Oct 21 2012 8:56PM
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shocker611
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pretty badass show.  kind of got me inspired to try to fuck people over and make it to the top
Oct 21 2012 8:58PM
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accualyisdolan
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But I destroyed it
Oct 21 2012 9:00PM
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_Garagely_
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Did I miss that?
Oct 21 2012 9:01PM
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NotGhood
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this
Oct 21 2012 9:05PM
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roor
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Those guys didn't build America the government did. Obama lol
Oct 21 2012 9:05PM
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Aidan-G
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I have a question. Did you actually watch the entirety of that speech or have you heard only the sound bites fox news plays?
Oct 21 2012 9:17PM
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roor
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Yes I have and I can tell you that government intervention actually cause the down fall off all these men.. There are no real monopolies or tycoons left. The government even reposed their houses..... See Newport mansions
Oct 21 2012 9:33PM
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Ahmadinejad
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I am 100% fine with this.
Oct 21 2012 9:48PM
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klayer_9
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Fuck those guys honestly.
Oct 21 2012 9:49PM
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Aidan-G
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I agree with that. Just making you sure you caught what he was actually saying other than the single quote, "You didn't build that"
Oct 21 2012 9:49PM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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Sounds cool as fuck. Definitely will stream it at work tomorrow. Thanks for the heads up op
Oct 21 2012 9:51PM
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roor
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These guys were the greatest philanthropists in American history. They gave more money to charity than most states
Oct 21 2012 9:54PM
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Ahmadinejad
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I find it disturbing when individuals become more powerful than governments. You are right they were the greatest philanthropist probably ever. They also acquired so much wealth that they made European kings and queens look like peasants. As an anti-caplitalist i find this disgusting.


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Oct 21 2012 10:04PM
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Backyard.Skier
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Boom!
Oct 21 2012 10:07PM
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grown-ninja
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come to NYC and try getting any other provider than timewarner
Oct 21 2012 10:08PM
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Ahmadinejad
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A democratically elected president who has a term limit of 8 years? You should brush up on your middle-eastern politics.
Oct 21 2012 10:11PM
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brosephstalin
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Oct 21 2012 10:14PM
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roor
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That's nothing compared to what these guys have Microsoft and apple dont even touch these guys. Ahmadinejad if you don't think those elections are rigged you need to brush up on having a gun to your head
Oct 21 2012 10:17PM
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brosephstalin
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They weren't rigged. Opinion polls conducted by The Washington Post immediately before the election showed that Ahmadinejad was very popular and way ahead of the opposition.


Oct 21 2012 10:21PM
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Ahmadinejad
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Did you hear that on Fox news? CNN? or MSNBC perhaps? lololol
Oct 21 2012 10:24PM
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brosephstalin
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@ Ahmadinejad

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Oct 21 2012 10:33PM
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Ac31stuff
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You can't say they were great philanthrapists because just by acquiring that much money they fucked shit tons of people over, but hey its the american dream. America: where a millionaire, through hard work and exploitation of others, can become a billionare.
Oct 21 2012 10:34PM
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Gods_Father
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you're a dumb bastard. i almost can't believe a single person in society thinks that is who "built" america. rape and fuck over is what they did and are still doing.

Oct 21 2012 10:45PM
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roor
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The revolutionary guard is known for stamping out opposition do you really think some one is going to risk their life for an American poll
Oct 21 2012 10:48PM
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Gods_Father
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hahahhahahahhahahhahah! why are you telling people lies?

Oct 21 2012 10:49PM
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roor
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Andew Himself gave away over 350 million to charity which is billions in today's money
Oct 21 2012 10:59PM
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XtRemE11
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exactly, and you know what? i fucked someone over by getting my job, i took somebodys place, he wasnt good enough, i was and am a better option. these guys are doing the same thing that you and i and everybody else in the fucking world does, just on a larger scale. they also create jobs, and provide us with what we want and need.
its survival of the fittest, its not only human nature, its nature in general. when you achieve something its at the expense of others in some way. you make, take, or receive something, its something that somebody else now doesnt get.
if you want to demonize some of the greatest individuals in american history for being successful, creating jobs, supplying the public with what they need, and essentially "building america", get the fuck off your computer, get rid of your cell phone, take off your shoes and clothes, dont use a car or bus, shit not even a bike. and go live in the woods in a hut you built out of twigs. if you do that, then you can talk shit. cause at the moment your just like every other self righteous rich kid hippie who's daily life is surrounded by the conveniences that these "greedy businessmen" provide you.


Oct 21 2012 11:08PM
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brosephstalin
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How can you "build" a nation when you've never done manual labor in your life.

The capitalists/land-owners didn't build America, slaves and wage-laborers did.
Oct 21 2012 11:19PM
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Ahmadinejad
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pshhhh so narrow minded.
Oct 21 2012 11:23PM
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roor
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These slaves also did a good job for your hero Stalin. At least these guys paid them something and didnt kill them after they finished
Oct 21 2012 11:27PM
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brosephstalin
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They didn't pay the African-Americans.

Also, sociologists estimate that 8 million Americans died during the Great Depression due to malnutrition, starvation, economic hardships, etc.

The extent of labor camps in the former USSR has been grossly exaggerated by bourgeois historians. Anyway, most of the people in there were criminals or counter-revolutionaries.

There are far more people imprisoned in the USA today than at any point in the USSR.
Oct 22 2012 12:01AM
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Gods_Father
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so are you admitting to being completely unaware of the crimes against humanity committed by these "great individuals" like the Rockefellers and J.P.?

or are you admitting that you are an evil bastard and you agree with what they have done???

dafuq

Oct 22 2012 12:50AM
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Master_Debater
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'Merica was built by the Wu-Tang Clan. GOOD NIGHT ERRYBODY
Oct 22 2012 1:50AM
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BravoWhiskey5280
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Wanna know why this all makes sense, the evolutionary principle applies to the human species as well wether you like it or not.
Oct 22 2012 2:21AM
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Bodhisattva_
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You're missing the point. In getting your job You didn't lobby in the government to keep laws that protected workers from being passed. You didn't exploit human beings and keep them working in the worst (conveniently the cheapest) conditions and paying them not even enough to feed their family so you could increase your bottom line. They could have gotten rich supplied jobs and "built America" without exploiting nearly everyone who worked for them. You're talking like all they did was beat someone out for a job... "You make, take, or recieve something, it's something somebody that somebody else now doesn't get." So they bake billions and other people don't get a decent job and healthy working conditions? Makes sense! They should have been smart enough to monopoloze an industry and treat common people like peasants!
Oct 22 2012 2:22AM
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ski.cats
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your ideas seem to come so far from one side.. do you ever feel like thats a poor way to convince anyone to see things the way you do?
Oct 22 2012 2:26AM
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BravoWhiskey5280
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That being the survival of the fittest
Oct 22 2012 4:17AM
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dompuch
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Intrestinng
Oct 22 2012 12:41PM
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Ac31stuff
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yeah dude we should round up the poor, stupid and butt hurt and shoot um cause servival of the fittest.
Oct 22 2012 5:49PM
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LoathesRaisins
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Relevant.
Oct 22 2012 5:55PM
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_Garagely_
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These guys donated ridiculous amounts of money to charity. And if it wasn't for one of the Rockefellers, Grand Teton National Park would not exist.
Oct 22 2012 6:24PM
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roor
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Brosph The Ukrainian holodomor was a famine in the 1930 that killed 7.5 million people. It happened under the back drop of mass executions, deportation and incarceration meant to undermine Ukrainian nationalism. At least those that died in the us did not have the government trying to kill them rather help them.  
Oct 22 2012 6:50PM
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ORDEAL
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I wish i had seen it but alas it was not at a good time to view

maybe they will re run it this weekend
Oct 22 2012 6:50PM
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roor
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Would you rather live in the ussr during ww2 or the Us?
Oct 22 2012 6:51PM
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Wallisch_pl
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they also kicked out the people who CAME here first


Oct 22 2012 6:52PM
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roor
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If it wasn't them than it would have been someone else
Oct 22 2012 7:01PM
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Wallisch_pl
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bull.shit.
Oct 22 2012 7:02PM
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rzarector
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They didn't do a very sturdy job, the shits falling apart left and right.
Oct 22 2012 7:04PM
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