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Heard it from me first, folks

So... Apparently these are the details/spec for the brand new GoPro Hero 3 to be released soon. Black edition sounds rad, 120fps @ 720p.

"The HD Hero 3 is a huge step ahead of the HD Hero 2. People are going to love these cameras. We will offer three models; the HD Hero 3 White Edition, Silver Edition and Black Edition. We will have three price points, and all three models have WiFi Built into them. They all share a new form factor which is the same rectangular shape (which lends itself to be mounted anywhere, including the Chest), but it's much thinner than the HD1/ HD2. The HD Hero 3 + Backpack is the size of todays camera by itself. All three models will come shipped with the new housing which incorporates an underwater lens into the housing and an improved locking latch. The camera needs to work as well under the water as above the water since it's waterproof. We did have to go to the Micro SD Card format since SD Card Trays are way to big for this camera. There are ton of other improvements; I'll send out a Camera Comparison Sheet once we have that and are allowed to send images.

Camera Line Up:

HD Hero 3 White Edition - $199 Retail. This is basically an HD Hero 1 Camera (5mp photo sensor, etc.) that includes WiFi, dive lens and the new, thinner form factor. Available 10/21/12 to ship.

1080/30, 960/30, 720/60
5MP Photo
3 shots 1 second photo burst
WiFi Built in
Improved Housing (locking latch / dive lens)

HD Hero 3 Silver Edition - $299 Retail. This is your HD Hero 2 camera with WiFi built in, new form factor and improved housing. Available 10/21/12 to ship.

1080/30, 960/48, 720/60
11MP Photo
10 shots 1 second photo burst
WiFi Built in
Advanced Features / Capture (Protune and White Balance)
Improved Housing (locking latch / dive lens)

HD Hero 3 Black Edition - $399 Retail. This is brand new technology with incredible new settings. Available mid to late November to ship.

4K/15, 2.7K/30, 1440/48, 1080/60, 960/100, 720/120
12MP Photo
30 shots in 1 second (plus many more burst settings where you can control how many shots in the burst and how long the burst lasts)
WiFi Built in
Remote Control Included (only on this model - remote is $79.95 by itself) - if you net out the price of the remote, the Black Edition is only $20 more than the Silver Edition.
Advanced Features / Capture (Protune, White Balance, Continuous Photo, and Picture in Video - PIV capabilities)
Improved Housing (Locking Latch / Dive Lens)
Oct 16 2012 6:19PM
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[~_~]
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Ah, this is the info I was after. To me this is far more significant than any of the advertised features. Thanks for clarifying.
Oct 17 2012 11:46AM
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Moosen
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I honestly will probably go back to using this as one of my main cameras again. and would seriously consider picking up and rc helicopter.
Oct 17 2012 11:59AM
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.EastCoast
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I agree. WiFi is a useless feature and such a waste of battery power. The product is quite a bit smaller/lighter though.. I'd say users will like it more than the 2 when they're using it on their helmets.

This release reminds me of Apple's iPhone 5 release.

Obviously it would be better to buy a bare bones system but then where would GoPro be making their money?
Oct 17 2012 12:14PM
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Sklar
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I might sell my t2i for a dedicated photo body, and pick up one of these a little bit down the road
Oct 17 2012 1:33PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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just read it uses MicroSD......
Oct 17 2012 1:40PM
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TijmenDal
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So? Does it really matter? Memory cards are incredibly cheap nowadays.
Oct 17 2012 1:46PM
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CrotchKiller
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who cares?
Oct 17 2012 1:47PM
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Mag
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Yeah microsd cards are annoying as hell, not because of the cost but because they're small as hell, easy to lose and you need an adaptor to plug into my pc.
Oct 17 2012 2:32PM
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Sklar
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yea, these are soo expensive...
http://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-MicroSD-MicroSDHC-SD-Adapter/dp/B001GGL7Z4
Oct 17 2012 2:40PM
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Jelle
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Yeah or you could just plug the camera directly into your computer via det usb cable, easy shit.
Oct 17 2012 3:21PM
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C-Wal
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Think I'll take advantage of a huge price drop on the hero 2! Can't see myself using all the features to warrant spending an extra £200.

However, it does look sick and I'm sure all the pros out there will put together some cool footage which I can't wait to see.
Oct 17 2012 3:34PM
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[J_Gasper]
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Are people actually considering selling their camera for a go pro? Thats pretty retarded. If it wasnt such a wide angle, then were talking, but for anything other than follow cams and POVs, it would be stupid.
Oct 17 2012 3:43PM
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Sklar
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If you're referring to my comment, no. I don't shoot much video anymore, just enough to want to keep something that can shoot video around though. So selling my t2i and old gopro for something like a 5d and when i get the funds the new gopro sounds reasonable to me.
Oct 17 2012 3:46PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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If I bought one then I would care, why buy more cards when I already have a bunch of 16gbs
Oct 17 2012 4:12PM
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CrotchKiller
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you're already spending 400 on a camera. 20 more for cards is not a big deal
Oct 17 2012 4:16PM
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Mag
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once again it's not the cost, I dislike using adaptors because I have to find it each time I want to plug it in, and

@Noobfromdk all my USB ports are in use, and using cards is easier than wires.
Oct 17 2012 5:29PM
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tomPietrowski
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This is a pretty exciting upgrade. The 4k as of yet will need a little more time, but its only 9Fps off being useable, which will be huge.

The 2.7K will be so usefull though. imagine how much reframing you could do, how much you could stabalise the footage and still have a crisp 1080 output. It will ertainly open up alot of possibilites to those who already use a larger image workflow.

People here also seem to be forgetting Go Pro is being used loads in TV and Film. So upping the frame size is majour for these consumers. I sold a Hero 2 to the DOP of Pirates 4, and he said they were using them loads for action where you just cant get  large film camera. But being restricted to 1080 was the main issue. Most films now are shot at 4k, so it makes sense for Go Pro to start working towards making 4k standard on the cameras.

Now if they could get HDR images, they really would be taking over.

Oct 17 2012 5:44PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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$420. but seriously I don't care it's just a minor annoyance, but buying one anyway
Oct 17 2012 11:30PM
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Brock.
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Is this sarcasm, or something of that nature? Please be so.

I believe that a truly effective business has several responsibilities that lie before growth, expansion, and profits. Especially in the film and television industry.
Oct 18 2012 12:16AM
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[~_~]
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I'm being serious. I'm not advocating this reality, only acknowledging it.
Oct 18 2012 1:41AM
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TijmenDal
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I'm pretty sure GoPro has its priorities right. It started out as a person similar to us who just wanted to record his buddies shred (but then on waves instead of snow), so he made the gopro. It's just that gopro isn't that big yet (relatively). They will release a camera that has what we want, but not before other POV camera manufacturers are out there competing with them. They gotta trump the competition before having the ground to not make a camera solely based on selling as many units as possible.
Oct 18 2012 2:36AM
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[J_Gasper]
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It would be interesting to play with one. I dont see myself buying one in the near future, but it will still be cool to see some of the footage. The thing that abe shot with it in NZ was very impressive.
Oct 18 2012 6:48AM
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B1kessk1s
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just bought one ! cant wait to have it !!!!! black edition mofo !!
Oct 18 2012 8:35AM
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loganimlach
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so wait, is there no option to shoot 1080/30? i know i don't always like to shoot 60.
Oct 18 2012 10:30AM
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division.bell
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http://gopro.com/cameras/hd-hero3-black-edition#specs

They have 60fps, 48fps, 30fps, and 24fps listed for the 1080 resolution.
Oct 18 2012 11:25AM
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loganimlach
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should have done a little more due diligence on my part...


i have poked around on their site, does anyone know approximate focal lengths or angles for their "ultra wide, medium, and narrow"?
Oct 18 2012 11:34AM
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division.bell
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It's a ton of information to sift through, that's for sure.

Regarding the viewing angles, that is exactly what I want to know as well. If anyone has anymore information, please share!
Oct 18 2012 11:41AM
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Keyjibbs
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Nice little write-up that gives some more detailed information. http://korduroy.tv/blog/2012/gopro-hero-3-review
Oct 18 2012 12:35PM
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cheaaaaaa
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This Is why I plan on getting it from backcountry.com, if it breaks in half then i can just return it
Oct 18 2012 1:53PM
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cheaaaaaa
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I want to believe that the black and silver are more or less the same camera with slightly different software... If its true, that they are the same processor and lens and all that, I wonder if you could jailbreak the silver to do the 4k settings of the black version
Oct 18 2012 1:57PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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no, not at all
Oct 18 2012 5:38PM
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cheaaaaaa
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Let me know how your so sure.

And, to an extent, its in their best interests to keep production prices down by having as many shared parts as possible. But without any specs on the different processors (or exact the exact size and weight) I dont think you could say one way or the other. Im not saying this IS true, rather, given the info thus far it COULD be.
Oct 18 2012 6:18PM
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cheaaaaaa
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ahhh shit i just looked at the specs side by side...

I didn't realize the claims to having a "2X faster processor" was in reference to the black compared to the silver. I thought the claim meant that it was that the 3 gopros' processors are twice as fast the 2

never mind on that
Oct 18 2012 6:27PM
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Official_Recap
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I have only read through about 80% of the comments in this thread, so I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not. All new features aside, GoPro is releasing some GREAT additions that I personally have been looking for for a while.

The 'Frame Mount' : A slim housing to give connectivity with all of the mounting options, but still allows access to the ports while in use. Not waterproof, but would be amazing for controlled environments, etc.Situations that come to mind would be use for broadcast with data streaming and time-lapse photography with charging and not needing to switch batteries.

Oct 21 2012 1:57PM
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cheaaaaaa
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heres a little more detail and pictures from transworld

http://business.transworld.net/113264/features/gopro-ceo-nick-woodman-on-new-hero-3-and-media-adventure-trip/?pid=33135
Oct 22 2012 11:18PM
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EC-Skier
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just lol'd all over the place
Oct 23 2012 10:38AM
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currentwestman
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i dont really know anything about the resolutions arguments but i'd like to reinforce that enlarging a turd doesnt make it any less of a turd, in fact it makes it more of a turd.
Oct 23 2012 1:48PM
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m3owzza
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GoPro Hero3 Black Edition Low Light & Audio Side by Side Comparison Test/Review - stephendiaz.com from Stephen Diaz on Vimeo.


definitely worth watching

especially audio
Oct 23 2012 3:23PM
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juicedrummer11
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wow that was actually a pretty awesome test. definitely likin the 3. possibly going to get one soonish
Oct 23 2012 3:37PM
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Downtofilm
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crazy.

Looks pretty good.
Oct 24 2012 12:30AM
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cheaaaaaa
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Got the hero 3 (black) today so i figure this is worth a share. Be ready for way too much skiing at this speed from people all winter.

some camera modes at 1% speed...

https://vimeo.com/54814901
Dec 3 2012 7:37PM
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MTPOW
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So I got the Black Edition yesterday, and after some research I was wondering what editing systems I need? I have FCP 7 but for slow motion and export what do you think is best? +K for help
Dec 26 2012 1:17PM
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DBL
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You could get twixtor for some slow motion, or just conform the footage to 23.98 fps and it will be pretty slow (from 120 to 23.98 will be very slow)
Dec 26 2012 4:31PM
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juicedrummer11
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if you have FCP7 you are set. just shoot in 120fps then when you import your footage onto the computer,

1) use MPEG Streamclip to convert the files to apple prores422 or prores422 (LT) and save them all to a certain folder
2) open cinema tools and do a batch conform. click on the folder you saved all your 120fps clips in
3) confrom from 120fps to 23.98fps and all clips will be in smooth slow motion.
4) open new final cut sequence and drop a clip in and click yes to match the sequence settings to the clip settings and start editing and your good to go.

if none of that works, just bring your gopro footage (already converted to prores422 from MPEG streamclip) drop it into the timeline and then click yes to match sequence settings. your timeline should be in 120fps so if you change the clip speed to like 20% (uncheck the frame blending box) or so you should still have clean slow motion. then when you export, export your timeline in 24 fps and it will look good.
Dec 26 2012 4:45PM
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MTPOW
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Wow thanks guys 20/20 to both of you ;). I really appreciate it.
Dec 26 2012 8:15PM
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keepithyphy
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Im gonna wait another year for the 3s hahaha
Dec 26 2012 9:42PM
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pow_pow~
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got the second last one in the whole of australia
sooooo stoked.
Dec 27 2012 11:22PM
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mammothpunks
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Mine came with fingerprints on the lens too.
Dec 28 2012 1:09AM
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sweatshirt
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was it used or something? seems pretty strange.
Dec 28 2012 7:46AM
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sweatshirt
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450 meaning gopro refunded your money and you can't decide if you wanna buy a new one?
Dec 30 2012 6:50AM
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