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LOOK Pivot 14s - 2013

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SladeSki
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Hey guys.

I'm looking into getting said bindings, and I'm wondering if anybody has had any bad experiences with these or the company? Or if they're a binding that you would recommend? This will be my first time switching binding companies in a few years. I have Marker Griffons from two years ago, and it was amazing to look at things such as the heel piece of the Pivot 14s, and see how compact they were, it seems like they would just snap off (I know that's not the case)!

I've looked at a few threads and haven't found anything bad about them, and they sound like the perfect binding for me. So yeah, anything to say about these bindings?

+K!
Oct 6 2012 7:20PM
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joshua
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I have never personally used them, but as far as I have heard they are for sure one of the best performing bindings on the market in terms of release system and durability, you can't go wrong with them really. The only flaws in the design are.

A) If you snap a brake, you have to remove the entire heel piece from the ski in order to replace it.

B) They are a bit of a pain to take on and off sometimes, especially in pow. As I'm sure you know, the heel piece spins 360 degrees, so thats why they are kind of annoying to take on and off, as opposed to a normal binding where the heel piece is stationary on the track. I've heard you also have to use your poles to take them off.

All in all they are an amazing binding though, and as long as you don't mind the two minor issues with the design I would say go for it!
Oct 7 2012 9:38AM
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iffe
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Best binding I've ever had.
Oct 7 2012 9:48AM
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Dirty.Harry.
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x2.

I have a pair from last year and a pair from the 90s (...and they are identical, imagine that). They are super solid and I couldn't ask for a better binding.

One possible solution for having to remove the entire heel piece to replace the brake is to remount in the same holes with threaded inserts (Binding Freedom or Quiver Killers). Since the inserts require larger holes, you just drill out the existing ones to the proper diameter and put the inserts in. If the brake broke again in the future, removing the heel would be a piece of cake.
Oct 7 2012 10:11AM
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SladeSki
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Thanks guys! Looks like these will be making it onto my next park skis. I've never snapped a break, but I'll definitely look into binding freedom just in case - sounds like it's a cool idea. Thanks again. +k
Oct 7 2012 10:54AM
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SladeSki
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Sorry for the double post. It seems Rossignol FKS bindings may be a better solution for me, as I live in Canada; from what I've found, they seem to be more economically friendly for a Canadian purchaser [in my location, anyway].

I've concluded through other threads on here that these are the same binding as the LOOK Pivot 14? They look the same & are built the same, with of course a different branding/color.

Nothing wrong with this decision, right? There's no downside to the Rossi bindings [I'm assuming there isn't, as they're the same it seems...]... this is a stupid question, but just for assurance purposes.


Oct 7 2012 7:08PM
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Mag
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First off they're exactly the same binding, so get whichever's cheaper. Also why do you need a new binding, you said you were fine with your current ones?
Oct 7 2012 7:14PM
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SladeSki
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I figured that was the case, just wanted to make sure. The Rossignols are more Ontario-friendly for sure! Thanks.

I'm just looking to try out a new company, I'm also switching ski companies this year, to Armada. I just figured it would be worth it to give other companies a shot; there's so many out there, why stick to one? I love the Griffons though, I'm just giving change a try is all.
Oct 7 2012 8:39PM
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Mag
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If that's the only reason you want them I highly advise you spend the money on something else.
Oct 7 2012 8:47PM
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SladeSki
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Maybe I misunderstood your first post - sorry.

I'm replacing my setup this year, which involves buying new skis and bindings & poles (old poles snapped, they're fifteen years old though, so I'll cut them slack). I'm selling my old skis & hopefully with the bindings still attached.

What I meant in my last post is that I'd be switching binding companies when I purchased new ones; I was planning on sticking with Marker, but thought, why not try something else? And that's this year. :P
Oct 7 2012 8:53PM
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Dirty.Harry.
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That would be a very big mistake.

I would advise that you indeed take a look at the Look/Rossi Pivots. If those end up being a bit pricey, I haven't had an issue with the Axial 120s (or equivalent), and I've owned 4 pairs of them.
Oct 7 2012 9:00PM
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SladeSki
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Exactly, that's why I figured it would be a good idea to try something new. I think it's close-minded to stay with one brand for years on end. There's a lot of good gear out there, from lots of companies.

Awesome, man. Thanks for the info.
Oct 7 2012 9:05PM
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RubberSoul
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yeah theyre the same binding as the FKS

and yeah theyre really, really good bindings.
Oct 7 2012 9:15PM
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GML
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get last years... they're way sicker
Oct 7 2012 9:22PM
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SladeSki
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I've been looking for them, actually - I haven't had much luck, unfortunately.

If you have a link let me know! ;)
Oct 7 2012 10:59PM
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wilson_seeds
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http://suburbanskiandbike.com/Look-Pivot-14-11-12-SKIB1029/?gclid=COOFk_vQ8LICFXSSPAodvW8Atw

here you are
Oct 8 2012 12:58AM
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Dirty.Harry.
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Well while it's good to try new brands, my point was just that Marker bindings are not very good in my experience. I have broken a couple pairs when I was little and have seen others break theirs.

Haven't had that in the 2 sets of Pivots and 4 sets of Px12/Axial 120 bindings I own(ed).
Oct 8 2012 12:48PM
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SladeSki
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Gotcha, it does seem that these bindings are built better. I've also seen people having problems with Marker bindings, I've been lucky, fortunately.

I'll definitely be getting these bindings.
Oct 8 2012 4:45PM
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joshua
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Hey now, markers aren't all THAT bad, I'm pretty happy with my griffons, but then again I am a smaller guy skiing the midwest, so I'm not exactly going to be busting bindings dropping huge cliffs or anything.
Oct 9 2012 8:59AM
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