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Freeskiing has the least tough athletes in action sports?

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Getpoolside
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Not sure i agree... what do you guys think
Sep 27 2012 4:49PM
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Relish_man
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I revised their injury chart, it's more accurate now
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Sep 28 2012 5:30PM
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maxwell666
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I don't think thats really applicable, otherwise swimming would be an extreme sport due to the risk of shark attacks and tsunamis.

my list would be FMX->BMX->(Snowboarding->Skiing->Skateboarding)->Surfing
the things in the brackets are fairly similar in extreme risk.
Sep 28 2012 5:59PM
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cwillygood
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i kind of agree. dirt biking is way gnarly, surfing is crazy, skateboarders bail so hard on concrete, snow isnt as hard
Sep 28 2012 6:50PM
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Lemuel
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I would say bmx is the gnarliest. Falling on a bike is the worst fucking thing that can happen to you, you just get so tangled and fucked. And I would say skiing has a larger risk factor than snowboarding because your legs have free range of motion. They should be side by side at least. Skateboarding is gnar, but not as gnar as BMX. Fuck FMX thats not a sport.
Sep 28 2012 7:55PM
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snomaster
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what THE FUCK? Avalanches are totally relevant. I feel that my life embodies freeskiing and the #1 fear I have doing my thing is of avalanches. Also, the guy (Sander.) who said earlier that Elyes wasn't skiing at the time she was caught in a massive avalanche which killed three others last season near Steven's Pass was wrong. She was skiing. And Plake was on a skiing expedition. How about my buddy Chris Onufer and Steve Romeo who were killed in a big slide last year in the range I ski?

diving back into the general argument...
Tanner's injuries are one thing but what about the accidents involving the great Charles Russell? Sure we love to land in soft snow but we go really fucking fast and catch massive air while performing tricks in close proximity to rocks/ice/trees/metal/people/concrete/buildings. And then there's the white dragon: avalanches. (not to mention tree wells, crevasses, white-assed punk kids, and cougars!)

Even after all of this I am still more afraid of dying in a car wreck than anything.
Sep 28 2012 8:31PM
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animeallstar
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This.
Sep 29 2012 1:50AM
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.ZT.
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Many people die in skating or experience major injuries, don't be so quick to put it down. RIP.
Sep 29 2012 8:51AM
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suup
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+k,this

Sep 29 2012 3:18PM
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Nadia.
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Elyse was definitely skiing at the time. That avalanche at Stevens killed 3 other people, she was lucky to survive. Her abs bag played a large part in her survival.

I didn't even look at the list yet, but I can tell you that I've had too many friends pass away skiing this past few years at races, or from avalanches.

If you look at ski cross or alpine racing, people are losing their lives or limbs. Ski racing involves speeds up to 150km/h, and ski cross gets up to 80-90km/h over jumps with 4 athletes on course at the same time.  The Big Mountain extreme tour has seen 3 fatalities in the last 3-5 years as well.

From a medical perspective, injuries are categorized on priority/severity based on mechanism of injury. The faster your rate of deceleration/greater the height you're falling from the more critical the incident. Hitting rocks, fencing, trees or ice at 100km/h is just as bad as any car crash.

The dangers are different for everyone in skiing based on if they're skiing park, skiing backcountry, racing or just casually skiing groomers. Also their level of skill and ability, who they're with and the current conditions/terrain. There are so many factors involved, you can never fully remove all the risks.

What Elyse is skiing in winter is definitely more dangerous than your average park skiing.
Sep 29 2012 3:30PM
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.ZT.
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More info towards the bottom if you are interested: http://www.skatepark.org/park-development/2012/01/2011-skateboarding-fatalities/

Really sad to see anyone die in any sport. Rest in piece.
Sep 29 2012 3:48PM
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maxwell666
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the risk of being in the environment isn't what is being compared, therefor its not relevant.
Sep 30 2012 7:06PM
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SkitheEast802
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 freestyle skiers are tough. they have to be in the best shape and strong. just look at bobby brown.
Sep 30 2012 7:14PM
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Parks.
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i feel like biking should or at least could be number 1....i dont BMX but i have seen some serious shit go down for those that ride...you get torn up bad. they are falling onto concrete!
Sep 30 2012 7:18PM
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Nadia.
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I'm pretty sure the environmental risks are an integral part of the sport.

Please, show me skiing without a mountain or snow.
Sep 30 2012 9:49PM
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Smuffy
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Motocross is fucking crazy. I would never claim that skiing is nearly as gnarly as moto x.

Here's a video a friend of mine got at a race. This shits fucked
Sep 30 2012 10:00PM
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bighomieflock
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Surfing is fairly dangerous once you get to a certain level. Obviously with big waves, drowning or being held under for too long is the issue. Some of the best waves also break on top of shallow razor sharp reefs, so nasty cuts and other injuries can come from hitting the reef. It's probably pretty rare, but I've heard of people getting paralyzed from going head first into sand bars or shallow water also.

Also, this may be ignorant, but isn't skating more dangerous just because of the fact that a lot of skaters don't wear a helmet? I would think that if people have died from skating it would be from head injuries while not wearing a helmet.
Sep 30 2012 10:01PM
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Getpoolside
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Obviously that's not right. They did include a disclaimer though, not much data on FREESKIING data exclusively. Still, we deserve more respect than that!
Oct 1 2012 10:37AM
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jake_tom_sully
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they were up there to ski though i think. i'd say that counts as an inherent ski risk. and its ironic that skiing got the lowest rating, albeit for poor data but has the most famous fatalities on that list. SIP
Oct 1 2012 10:42AM
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Amadeus.
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board hitting you, Fins slicing you open, rocks, reefs, sandbars, power of the waves, collisions with other surfers.
Oct 1 2012 2:51PM
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CKpolicy
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gettin skegged sucks. then sitting in the ocean bleeding isnt a great idea either.
Oct 1 2012 3:48PM
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-ShredTheGnar-
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asif downhill mountain biking is not in that list.... fuck have you seen when those guys bail?
Oct 1 2012 3:59PM
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goochlover666
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Clearly the people who made this pole have never hit urban
Oct 1 2012 4:10PM
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FuckAllOfYou
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skiing should be at the top, for urban. that shit is so gnarly. also, i'd say bailing on huge jumps (70+) and crazy rail features is also insane, plus big mtn is definitely only for badasses.

and DH mtb. possibly the most nuts sport out there.

football got nothin' on us
Oct 1 2012 4:50PM
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BlackCupid
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Tanner Hall below Jake Brown for injury seriousness.... lol
Oct 1 2012 5:15PM
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Rogge
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So what you're saying is that skateboarding isn't more dangerous because it involves concrete? Surfing isn't a dangerous sport because you could drown and motocross isn't a dangerous sport because of the height of an air?

This list is stupid. Yes, it's stupid. Since when is "being tough" a measurement of success in action sports? The whole reason for participating in one of these outdoor activities is to have fun.


Oct 1 2012 5:17PM
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zahava
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Not lol.... He fell 40 feet in the air to flat wood, and then got up and walked away. That could have broken his body beyond repair, or even worse. And then, only 1 year later, was competing again and stomped the trick that nearly ended his carer. Tanner's injury was intense, and the recovery process may have been more complicated, but Jake's fall is hands down one of the gnarliest in action sports, period.
Oct 1 2012 7:45PM
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SuspiciousFish
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I used to DH bike and raced a couple of times. It was pretty fucked up, this one guy fell and punctured his handlebar 4 inches into his armpit. On average there was one ER visit per race and that was a local race series. FMX has bigger jumps but if you fall hard in a rock garden you get torn up way worse. When I was younger I smashed my front teeth out on a dirt jump behind my buddy's house. I use those pedals that clip into your shoes and went over the handlebars and landed on my face still attached to my bike.
Oct 1 2012 9:39PM
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-ShredTheGnar-
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Yer I bike myself so I know how it goes :P I just don't compete.

definitely should be on that list. But again it is quite a new sport (well it's classed as a new sport as it's only been around since the 90's)
Oct 2 2012 12:39PM
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JeremyClarkson
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How about getting pounded into the sea floor by literally tons of water if you bail on a 30ft curl?

Or maybe getting torn to shreds by coral reefs that lie under the surface?

Maybe you would prefer getting swept half a mile out to sea by violent riptides?

Google image surfing injuries with safesearch off if you want to get an idea of how hunky dory the sport really is.

Oct 2 2012 1:13PM
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Dr.Dickless
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I think we make up for it because the highest fatality rate is for skiers and snowboarders
Oct 2 2012 2:40PM
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Pow.yuHdig*
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bmx toughest ferr suree
Oct 2 2012 3:26PM
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ForeverYung
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It like bmx, plus huge fucking jumps and drops, plus more speed usually than crashing on a bmx bike. serious DH is fucking sketchy
Oct 2 2012 3:28PM
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ForeverYung
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Also relevant: Click for larger image
Oct 2 2012 3:41PM
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-ShredTheGnar-
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Pinkbike.com just posted Red Bull Rampage 2002 movie on homepage...

holy fuck....
Oct 2 2012 5:07PM
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ForeverYung
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^ Just watched it. DAT SHIT CRAY
Oct 2 2012 9:26PM
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Relish_man
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I know this isn't a contest but...
Oct 2 2012 9:36PM
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DeRizzo
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i dont surf much either but i live in cape cod for the summer and i think its because some of the waves they surf are very very very very powerful. I can't imagine. Ive seen videos of these waves and their huge:


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but on another topic they don't have that much "data" on the sport. Also think aboit how much skiing has evolved in the past years
Oct 2 2012 10:02PM
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JeremyClarkson
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QliBL-AQiAY

Cant embed but if you watch this you will understand why this thread is over.

Oct 2 2012 11:47PM
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Getpoolside
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Why? There's a reason that video has so many views, it's very unusual.
Oct 3 2012 3:05PM
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steezyjibber
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DIS SHIT DUMB
Oct 3 2012 3:08PM
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Squeenerd
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^those waves are amazing. It's insane how big they are
Oct 3 2012 9:41PM
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90053
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i understand why people are talking about urban but its only at a v. high level that you start hitting really high risk features. i'm not a great skier but i have definitely skied many lines where falling is not an option! either serious injury or death! these weren't even that tech at all. just saying that big mountain is imo where gnarliest shit gets thrown in skiing
Oct 4 2012 4:23AM
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UFOsarereal
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Being There - Strandafjellet segment from Field Productions on Vimeo.

Oct 4 2012 2:29PM
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Heart
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My opinion:

1. BMX
2. Skateboarding
3. FMX
4. Snowboarding/skiing
5. Surfing
Oct 4 2012 2:39PM
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zahava
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Well I just watched Steep again and those kids at Krush have obviously never heard of Chamonix or Valdez. Real big mountains will kill you in a second, to quote Anselme Baud, "You fall, you die".



All taken pushing the boundaries, and doing what they love, RIP:
Jean-Marc Boivin:
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Patrick Vallençant:
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Trevor Peterson:
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Doug Coombs:
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Shane:
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Oct 6 2012 3:03PM
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tcurle
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Skiing also had the most taken too soon on that list ):
Oct 6 2012 5:11PM
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tcurle
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This
Oct 6 2012 5:13PM
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ForeverYung
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brightcove.createExperiences();
Oct 6 2012 9:18PM
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ForeverYung
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damn, cant embed red bull videos, watch this

http://www.redbullusa.com/cs/Satellite/en_US/Video/rampage-five-gnarliest-crashes-021243257663306
Oct 6 2012 9:19PM
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SteveStepp
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I think skateboarding is by far the toughest on that list. They didnt even include mountain biking, which in my opinion, is the gnarliest action sport of all time.
Oct 6 2012 9:22PM
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