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alex=
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This is a weird idea for a thread, i'll admit it myself. I'm skinny and play football, and i need more mass and weight. How can i gain weight? Doesn't have to be quick. share personal stories, ideas, what to eat, etc.. +kkkkkk
Sep 22 2012 2:42PM
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californiagrown
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first sentence: there is absolutely no proof whatsoever of this

second sentence: thats just factually incorrect.
Sep 22 2012 6:55PM
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NoBigDeal
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believe what you want.

i'm the asshole in the gym who makes fun of the guys who waste so much time worrying about getting in their 6-8 small meals a day. If you knew anything about how the human body works you would know that your body does not go catabolic because you have not eaten in 3 hours lol.

It all comes down to your over all intake of macros/micros. Timing does not matter, your body is not on a set clock and it is much smarter then you think it is.
Sep 22 2012 6:58PM
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californiagrown
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you only sleep 3 hours at a time? huh. good for you.
Sep 22 2012 7:00PM
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NoBigDeal
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i sleep for 8-9 hours every night. I said 3 hours because thats the "typical" time interval for broscience followers to consume their food. My point is your body won't go catabloic over night.
Sep 22 2012 7:05PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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There is proof of it, but its has varied between studies. Everyones body is different, so obviously the effects vary.

Taken from WebMD

"Creatine is a natural substance that turns into creatine phosphate in the body. Creatine phosphate helps make a substance called adenosine triphosphate (ATP). ATP provides the energy for muscle contractions."

Taken from UMD Website

"Creatine is a naturally occurring amino acid (protein building block) that's found in meat and fish, and also made by the human body in the liver, kidneys, and pancreas

Read more: http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/creatine-000297.htm#ixzz27F7wG6S5 "


So, here are my facts, now what were you saying?


Sep 22 2012 7:09PM
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.frenchy
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Just because they're the best weight lifters of NS? I bet there are other member who know more about lifting than those two, just because they are SWOLLLLL!
Sep 22 2012 7:12PM
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californiagrown
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yes it will. 3 hours is(let me bust out the calculator here...)less than 9 hours. a lot less actually.
Sep 22 2012 7:13PM
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californiagrown
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does 4 lines of type really take that long to type?
Sep 22 2012 7:16PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Any person can become "big" but that does not mean they understand how the body works. People have to understand that everyones body is different, and just because your workout works, it may not work for others.

My brother is 6'2 and 185, but can put up 285 and has never taken a SINGLE supplement. Does that mean he knows more about working out than anyone else? No. But he has taken the time to take anatomy, biology, and chemistry courses to learn more about metabolism, enzymes, etc. It doesnt hurt that he can lift that much, but it helps that he takes courses that teach him about the human body.
Sep 22 2012 7:17PM
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californiagrown
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i havent seen an active member that knows more...
Sep 22 2012 7:17PM
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NoBigDeal
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yes.. you are correct it's less, but again my point was your body will not go catabolic over night.

For me, my night is 9 hours. If my body did go catabolic every night i wouldn't be making gains and a shit ton of other people wouldn't be either.

your wasting your time and money if your taking casein every night before bed of waking up in the middle of the night for "muscle fuel." the human body is a lot smarter than that. just saying..
Sep 22 2012 7:18PM
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californiagrown
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if you go catabolic for 4 hours per day and are anabolic for the other 20 are you going to be making gains?


regardless, its just another opportunity to get some macros in.
Sep 22 2012 7:21PM
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.frenchy
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Yeah sorry, that's what I was trying to get at.

Like my friend who is 17 (18 in October) is benching 365, he's fucking ripped, and he doesn't take any supplements either. He's just crazy.
Sep 22 2012 7:21PM
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Montville57
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Pump your veins full of lard that should put a couple lb's on. Or go on a strict crispy creame only diet. Either way bitches will flock to you.
Sep 22 2012 7:21PM
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californiagrown
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thats cause you project anger on to everything i say. put a smile on your face, look back at my posts and you will see no anger or ill will.
Sep 22 2012 7:23PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Wasn't arguing with your post, I was just backing it up.

Some people just have bodys that gain weight and muscle faster than others.

I myself was born 10 weeks prematurely, and because of that, have an issue where my muscles take more effort to grow than others. My brother on the other hand, has an extremely fast metabolism coupled with an ability to gain muscle very quickly, making it very easy for him to eat tons of protein without worries of gaining extra "fatty" weight.
Sep 22 2012 7:26PM
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MFM
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I haven't pooped in a couple days and have gained 5 pounds, it's just science.
Sep 22 2012 7:29PM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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5.3%? Really? there's no fucking way dude. I'd actually like to see pictures of that....maybe homo?

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Sep 22 2012 7:52PM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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at 6'4" he'd need another 30-50 lbs to even be close. 5.3% of 200 lbs stretched out over 6'4" sounds more like a crack head's physique. i just don't believe it.


"At 6'4" and 200 lbs. should I cut or bulk?"

"bulk because that's fucking small"


Sep 22 2012 8:18PM
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yourthemannowdog
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That's why I said start at 20% protein 30% fat 50% carbs. I agree that everyone should do what works best for them.

You gave the dude your meal plan, when he needs someone to help take the first step.
Sep 22 2012 8:44PM
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yourthemannowdog
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Double post (sorry).

Just carrying this to the second page
Sep 22 2012 8:45PM
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icon1234
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OP kinda similar situation that you are in. I weigh 150 lbs and I am 5'9, my goal is to get to 160 by spring. I gained 10 lbs since last winter when I started working out so not bad... But all I can say if you think you are eating enough, eat more. Like go to the gym do the work out and do the routines, but you need to simply increase your calorie intake substantially. Given it is difficult because forcing food down your throat isn't really that fun, but you can be gaining a lb a week if you really eat a lot. Combine that with consistent workouts the weight gain will look healthy (at least it did for me...)
Sep 22 2012 9:00PM
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TimRiley
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LOL at the people who feel like they have something to prove on this thread. Some pissy thinking 6'4". 200# is some impressive number, some with something to prove that they know the most and the guy that replied to his own posts over to the second page so he continue to impress people with his medical terminology. Simply put every one is different and requires a specialized program to meet their  fitness goals taking into consideration their metabolism and what their body responds too.
Sep 22 2012 9:32PM
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MFM
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Back off bro, im built as fuck. bro.
Sep 22 2012 9:49PM
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TimRiley
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^yeah, my bad on the phone rant, not trying too or shouldn't have singled anyone out. +k to you all. peace

Sep 22 2012 9:54PM
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alex=
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this is what i've  always been told.
Sep 22 2012 10:09PM
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Broommasta
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aside from protien shakes and supplements the best thing you can do is eat whenever your hungry, if your working out and burning lots of energy, hunger is your bodies way of teling you what you need. and dont be afraid to even eat a little bit more even when your full (especially if the food tastes good) the excess food will be stored as extra fat and energy giving you way more endurance and initial power because your body has extra nutrients too burn.
Sep 22 2012 10:14PM
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Bread_Fish
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I'm just kidding i'm sure its not that easy. A guy on my soccer team has the same issue. He says he been eating absolute crap since the beginning of the season and hes lost weight.
Sep 22 2012 10:20PM
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Gods_Father
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don't take advice from this guy. i can't bother with your first post lol but wow you are not fasting while you sleep overnight..... your body is still digesting, especially if you eat meats.

Sep 22 2012 10:25PM
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A-Mac.
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[IMG]dwss.us/Lena[/IMG]

Eat my friend!

Sep 22 2012 10:26PM
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DUKES
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I'm 6'4" 155 and all i eat are sour patch kids. hardcore dieting
Sep 22 2012 10:32PM
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Gods_Father
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waaaaaaaaaat?

it's called overloading your kidneys. jesus. it isn't even something that your body needs on a daily basis.

Sep 22 2012 10:34PM
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Billups
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Most of you need to read this and learn from it:

Sep 22 2012 11:28PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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My one complaint with that website besides the goddamn length is that it uses very VAGUE terms when it says "high dosage". As people have stated, everyones body reacts differently to supplements. What may be high for me may be low for you. People have said before that the FDA does not regulate supplements as they do other drugs, which IMO results in more relaxed efforts to investigate side effects and long term effects of certain supplements.
Sep 23 2012 12:41AM
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BlackCupid
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Studies show that weight lifted has no effect on hypertrophy as long as you're lifting to failure at or above 35% your 1RM. So if you can bench 250 lbs, you could go to the weight room and crank out 40 reps of 95 lbs and still get the same muscle mass increase as if you had done 3 reps of 225. The only difference is the low weight sets consume more calories, so you're slightly more likely to burn fat while doing them, and hence the myth that low weight tones your muscles.
Sep 23 2012 2:14AM
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Dubins
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I think he's just trying to gain a bit not become a bodybuilder/gym rat... Weight gain is simple... It's all based puff eating for calories than you burn during a day! Simple as that, it can get as easy or as complicated as you make it. Get some pro complex chocolate gainer from body building.com find a simple excersise plan.. I like 5x5 stufff... Try to do compound lifts that work mor than 1 muscle
Sep 23 2012 3:45AM
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Dubins
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^idk what happened... Try to do lifts like squats, deadlifts, weighted wide grip pull ups, bench (not on a machine) to maximize your natural growth... Just start simple and advance with time. Don't burn yourself put by trying to stick so a super strict regiment right off the bat... And remember to work on form first, the weight will come naturally and you'll see results
Sep 23 2012 3:48AM
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Dubins
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Also, for a skinny kid tryin to gain weight, a calorie is a calorie is a calorie! (I know that's it's not exactly true don't worry) but just keep an eye on your fat intake and try to get protien with your high cal meals
Sep 23 2012 3:50AM
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Uah
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I want titties and shoulders /threads
Sep 23 2012 3:54AM
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NoBigDeal
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A calorie is a calorie for anyone.... It's a measurement of energy. There is not a difference in energy yeild between 1 calorie of carbs and 1 calorie of protein.
Sep 23 2012 11:54AM
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DayMan
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da fuck? When did you come back?
Sep 23 2012 11:59AM
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Billups
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Forgive me if I'm wrong, but didn't the FDA come down on pre-workouts like Jack3d because of their inclusion of DMAA?
Sep 23 2012 12:34PM
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PeterNorth
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you gotta get on that shit every day id you want to see any change.
Sep 23 2012 1:12PM
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californiagrown
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sweet contribution to the thread!
Sep 23 2012 3:08PM
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TijmenDal
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Work out+eat pasta = done
Sep 23 2012 3:11PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Yep.


Which is smart
Sep 23 2012 3:12PM
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Dubins
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Your body actually uses them differently depending on what else is taken in with them... For hardcore body builders it makes a difference... But technically speaking the calorie itself is the same
Sep 23 2012 3:20PM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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come on, dude...i legitimately want to see 5.3% body fat.

and more importantly, how in the fuck did you achieve it? that must be close to impossible to maintain...
Sep 23 2012 4:16PM
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TheQuailman
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If you want to gain weight, your going to have to put a lot of time into it.

I suggest reading the book 'Starting Strength' it explains everyhting you need to know about how to get stronger (and of course gain mass along the way) -  it explains how to do the workouts, when to do them, and how much weight to use.  It is considered the Bible of weight training.  It is perfect for getting stronger especially for sports such as football.

There is an extensive summary of the book on the bodybuilding.com forums.  You should read the summary within a few days to get started and then read the book along the way to perfect your form and better understand the whole theory behind it.

In addition to Starting Strength, I would suggest using a calorie/macronutrient calculator (on bodybuilding.com) and the app called 'myfitnesspal' to make sure you are eating enough calories with the right amount of fat, carbs, and protein.

Sep 23 2012 4:38PM
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NoBigDeal
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yes of course your body uses protein differently then it does fat or carbs. Thats not what you said though, you said not all calories are the same. a calorie=a calorie no matter where it comes from.
Sep 23 2012 4:55PM
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