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Rachel's Challenge.... the conspiracy profit scheme coming to a high school near you.
Has anyone had Rachel's Challenge come to their high school?
First off, let me say this: the columbine shooting was an absolutely tragic event, Rachel's death is nothing but a travesty, and I am in no way trying to make fun of anything. I am just trying to look at the Rachel's Challenge campaign in a different way than it is presented.
Now that I got that out of the way... let me tell you what Rachel's Challenge is if you dont already know. If you do know what it is, skip the italic part.
In the Columbine High School Shooting in Colorado in 1999, the first person to be killed by the gunman was a girl names Rachel Scott. She was an incredibly warm hearted, positive girl, who always made other people smile. The presentation claimed that she literally saved multiple people's lives by being nice to them when they were being bullied. The message that they give and purpose of the presentation is to promote the stopping of bullying.
Now this is where the conspiracy sets in...
Rachel apparently told her family and friends often that she was going to die at a young age. But, she was perfectly at peace with the fact. She even wrote in her journal that she was going to die in a homicide.
Now here is my theory... (Disclaimer: I am not saying this is true, but merely a possibility).
Since Rachel (apparently) knew she was going to die at a young age, her death was partially her own fault. She could have told the gunman to shoot her, thrown herself in the line of fire... there are many possibilities.
What I want to know is why her friends and family didn't find the fact that she was so convinced that she knew she would die soon an extreme concern. I know if I knew someone with that mindset I'd force them to go to a professional to get help.
And the profit part:
As you all may know, nearly every speech or presentation has some sort of exaggeration or white lie to it. The Rachel's Challenge campaign almost certainly exaggerated aspects of the story. For example: the people they interviewed for the video, they probably wanted to be in the video, so they made their story as compelling and astounding as possible. Example: her brother claimed on the morning of the shooting, he and her sister got in a fight in the car on the way to school and the last thing he did to her was call her names and slam the car door in her face. He said if he could relive the moment he would've just said he loved her, like that is something every high school kid says to their siblings in the morning.
There are numerous, countless even, other exaggerations and made up events in the show. You'd know if you saw it. I found myself in doubt more than I should have for a presentation like it is.
So these exaggerations are just to make the presentation more appealing - right. So obviously this campaign is to spread awareness of stopping bullying - that's a great thing! Bullying isn't good, duh. So if this is such a light hearted, life lesson, make yourself a better person campaign, why do they charge each school they visit NEARLY $10,000. Yes, $10,000. Shouldn't it be at least a little more towards the side of non-profit?
Here's a summary of the presentation in a youtube video:
So what's the deal? Is it a money-sucking conspiracy? Or am I just a bad person for writing this (even though all my friends and I agree with this)?
SPARKNOTES: Watch the video and what do you think?
had them at my school in albany. Don't remember much but I do remember some speaker coming in and saying she scratched the date of the shooting into some cabinet, claiming she had powers...stay scheming
i don't really understand how anybody gets away with this stuff, there should be laws against it, but there aren't, and there's nothing you can do about it. it sucks that there are people who exploit the deaths of innocent people for money but it's just a fact of life, it happens every single day everywhere on earth. get used to it.
This isn't a conspiracy. It is a job for him. He does speeches about bullying, and schools that have problems and think that holding an assembly with this guy speaking for $10,000 will do their school good, hire him.
The guy has to eat and I'm sure some of it goes away to charities.
Came to the public high school in the town I live in, mad people were calling this shit out, theres definately some fabrications/white lies to make the story better/more preachable and easier for the dude to make money. It's terrible what his daughter had to go through and what his family went through following her death however there is no reason to lie/fabricated details.
haha i remember this bullshit....she obviously had psychic powers given to her by the holy power of antibullying to forsee the future, that being said the overall message is ok.
I agree. It toughens you. A kid that never gets picked on a little, beaten up by his older brother, or made fun of by his friends is gunna grow up to be a little pussy bitch. Society today is pussifying the coming generations to a point imo. NO bullying, NO teasing, NO hazing, NO physical contact in middle schools... Like our fan sections at my high school's sporting events can't chant anything that can be even considered negative (ex: "It's all over", "Scoreboard", etc).
Pardon me while I threadjack my own thread... woops.
Back when I was in like 6th or 7th grade, i cant really remember (junior in high school now), I saw Rachel's Challenge at my school. I really dont remember it enough to agree or disagree with you. All i remember is that I found it very powerful and sad, and I think i cried at the part where they said to go home and tell your parents you love them. I dont know why it struck me so hard, maybe because i was thinking of how awful it would be if all of a sudden they werent alive or i couldnt see them.
inb4 someone calls me a pussy because 1) i was in 6th grade 2) i wasnt nearly the only one crying and 3) it was a very powerful and moving presentation (whether you see it as a conspiracy or not)
i don't know that i'd call it a conspiracy profit scheme. I mean, stuff like this costs money and people have to eat. It's really towards the lower end of average keynote speaker fees which range from 5k - 125k USD.
Growing up in Colorado, I saw these guy's in middle school and in high school and it is no doubt a super sad story. But this family started as a non-profit organization......from the get-go.
So it raises an ethical dilemma, as they are trying to open peoples eyes to the tragic events of bullying that caused Columbine, that personally shattered part of their lives as well, while generating some money for personal profit and tax write offs. They may help and donate that money in return but I kind of doubt it. But now the question is do they deserve it?
One of their two daughters was killed by ruthless assholes who decided the world should pay, and their mission is to try and stop others from re-enacting these selfish violence crimes. But how much money will it take to heal their pain? Unless they are donating to other charity's and progressing, and not trying to sell everything from t-shirts to dvd's, then yeah I fully support this but its slightly messed up with all the products and everything they want to sell. Idk, its terribly sad with everything that happened and its awesome they started a cause, but it may be going a little over the top.
this is kind of is identical to christianity if you think about, icon of sorts preaches words of love and support, icon of sorts dies at the hands of others hate, icon lives on through others and generates donations for support.
Cant tell whether Demi Lavato is hot or is a mind trick. ON the other hand Britney still gives me a boner, not an agressive one just a mediocre boner. Not like she used to
I still don't know what "rachel's story" is-- they kept referring to it, also, I still don't know what the challenge is...do they challenge you to sign your name and pledge not to bully or something?
Also, how many people are involved in the presentation. Is it the main speaker, Rachel's sister and a few others? If there's like 4-5 people or more on the tour, keep in mind these folks have to either fly, or take a touring bus from state to state, pay for lodging, food, and other travel expenses, the materials they use to do the presentations and something to allow them to keep their homes. I mean this is what they're doing for their jobs, doesn't mean they're getting rich off of it. If there are 5 people, and they do 2 presentations a month, thats 4k each before taxes, by no means a killing.
It's been a while since they came now, but I believe it was 2, maybe 3, people who came.
And yes we had to sign our names to pledge against bullying.
Rachel's Story was pretty much a biography of her and how she was this angel and how she could see into the future and a lot of other iffy details.
They have never come to my school, but it does not really look like a scam at all, in fact the first line of their Wikipedia says they are a non-profit. Overall the message seems good, and 10,000 is not that much to charge, I mean the speakers have to eat.
They came to my high school and it was really wierd. My whole high school was in this deep depression for like the rest of the day. Except for me and a couple other students. I felt like the whole thing was wierd. Kinda shady or something wasnt right.
rachels challenge came to my middle school in like 7th grade. It was a pretty cool assembly. Definitely more appropriate for highschool though... has "stand for the silent" come to anyone heres school? they came to mine this week. shit was powerful
Came to my high school 4 years ago. I'm graduated now, but when I was in high school they had a club called "friends of Rachel" which basically was a club founded on the principles of the Rachel's Challenge thing. To be honest I found that they were kinda shady and in much ways grasping at straws in some instances like the drawing of the flower with the pedals and the number of deaths. It really sounded like ehh... thats debatable that she has this perception of viewing into the future.
I personally had no idea that the campaign was ran for the sum of 10 grand. That's stupidly ridiculous.
this. During the presentation I wanted to raise my hand and say what about the the other kids that were killed. Shouldn't there names be mentioned or something.
thats actually a really good point that i never really thought about. what makes the other 12 deaths so less important? just because Rachel was first that means she is the most important? No. the other victims should be recognized as well!
Wow. My hometown is home of (i believe) the oldest high school rivalry in the nation. It is not uncommon to hear "Fuck you P'Burg" being chanted. I think that screaming "fuck" across a football field is a little over the line, but not being able to say anything remotely negative is much worse.
yeah they came to my highschool to and i remember having the same feeling. it all seemed fishy. they also claimed that the gUn men pointed a gun at her brothers head and didnt kill him which is bullshit
my school hasn't had this very program, but we have had many like it. told by different people, about different things, they all have one thing in common, they are usually asking you to donate money or buy products to support them or a charity they do. Its kind of like Invisible children. everyone was like, oh its so sad those poor kids, lets buy their things to help children in africa.
so...you think rachel killed hereself on purpose to make some random guy thousands of dollars in an anti-bullying campaign? thats your conspiracy theory? correct me if im wrong but holy shit kid i think you need a hobby
When they came to our school, they showed us this picture of a face that she drew that was crying. They then claimed that the 12? tears she drew represented the 12? victims. Total bs. I was not impressed, as was anyone else. They haven't been back since.
When they came to our school, they showed us this picture of a face that she drew that was crying. They then claimed that the 12? tears she drew represented the 12? victims. Total bs. I was not impressed, as was anyone else. They haven't been back since.