2012/2013 ON3P

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So i was riding a mountain in northern michigan today, and it was gaper city. Im shreddin my brand new jeffreys (which i love) and see some dude rocking 11/12 Jeffreys! Out west this wouldnt be a big deal, but to see someone shredding ON3P in michigan (especially a pow ski) is a rare sight. He isnt even on NS. Glad ON3P is spreading to everyone else!

Dec 29 2012 7:25PM

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Rode my jmos all day today! Really liking them!! Great in soft snow!! And finally getting in the air on them... There was 4 guys including me and my friend at cannon mountain in NH today with on3ps!

Dec 29 2012 7:46PM

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With the elliptical side cut I would really recommend mounting at the recommended mount point. The on3p guys have it dialed

Dec 29 2012 10:17PM

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TGR may be a better place to ask this, the percentage of NS'ers who have been on both BG's and Rens is probably fairly low. That being said, I did just see KM post...

Dec 29 2012 10:49PM

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Aren't all ski side cuts elliptical?
How is yours different?
Just curious

Dec 30 2012 3:02AM

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Im saddened to say my friend just snapped his brand new filthies....I'll post pictures in a bit cuz I'm on my phone...he landed really front seat and the tip just snapped : (....in other news love my jmos!

Dec 30 2012 10:21AM

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Wow that is both very unusual
And unfortunate, I'm sure your friend and the on3p guys can work something out!

Dec 30 2012 11:03AM

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I'm not an expert on the topic, but a parabolic sidecut is not the same thing as an elliptic one. An elliptic sidecut means that the cut is symmetrical, a 'true' oval shape; whereas most parabolic skis' sidecuts do not have that property since they are more directional.

Dec 30 2012 11:12AM

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Dec 30 2012 1:04PM

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^^ not pudge's skis btw

Dec 30 2012 1:21PM

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Pudge

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Thanks Christ they aren't

Dec 30 2012 1:33PM

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Tell him he needs to email Info@on3pskis.com, pictures help.

For tech explanations, heres a link not many people may have yet seen:

http://www.on3pskis.com/on3p-no-bullsht-tech-explainations/

Dec 30 2012 1:37PM

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That looks like several other skis that we see come back. The core doesn't snap, but the fibreglass / topsheet does. If he snapped the core as well, I applaud him!

Dec 30 2012 3:36PM

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your post was #666, number of the beast

Dec 30 2012 4:00PM

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Been skiing on the Jmos for a few days and I LOVE them. such a fun ski and charge through east coast snow

shit, they are 11-12's. Oh well, ON3P definitely makes good shit!

Dec 30 2012 4:07PM

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soft goods? do want!

Dec 30 2012 4:17PM

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Not true, there are directional elliptical sidecuts as well as symmetrical ones. A standard parabolic sidecut is a section of a circle and so when laid on edge it will only make one radius turn. An elliptical sidecut is a section of an ellipse and therefore has a tighter radius in the tip and tail than underfoot, which allows it to make long gs style turns with a low edge angle and short slalom type turns at high edge angle

Dec 30 2012 4:18PM

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Does anyone can tell me if the 12-13 Jmos have more rocker in the tips or they have the same amount of rocker in the tail? thanks for help!

Dec 31 2012 12:34AM

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I just checked mine seems like more in the tip but not an extreme amount more than the tail.

Dec 31 2012 2:57PM

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Currently saving up for a pair of 2013/2014 touring/powder skis :D

I'm so excited.

Dec 31 2012 2:59PM

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my situation:

i ski mostly resort conditions, charging and carving groomers, popping/jibbing off of natural features, steeper bowls, all mountain kind of skiing. I ski pow when i can (but that is rare), and very rarely go into the park.

I was thinking jeffreys originally (for their all mtn poppy/jib marketing), but I'm worried that they won't hold up when i start to charge, and will be too floppy on steeper, faster, or even icey conditions.

Are they ok for that? or should i look at something more like the vicik or wrenagades?

I'm 6'3" 220lbs.

Jan 1 2013 11:14PM

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I'm 6'4 200 and the jeffery is anything but floppy! It is the best all around ski I have ever been on!

Jan 2 2013 12:56AM

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Im the same size and have been considering the Jeffrey but have also been looking at the Wrenagde as I ski in Europe and we have a lot of crud and blower / frozen and tougher groomers to deal with, Im considering them as im used to a GS style chagrining skis ive topped +70 mph on open runs in the past as im quite a big chap.

Jan 2 2013 5:35AM

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The wren and Vicik are half twins, if Jibbing is important I'd stick with the Jeffrey, it's stiff enough to really rail, 186 for sure. Wrens would be a stiffer ski and be a bit more stable and charge friendly, but I wouldn't call them 'jibby'...

Jan 2 2013 10:02AM

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And this is where I'd point someone to a Wren over a Jeffrey. Tough conditions, high speeds, balls to the walls GS turns in one direction only - down.

Jan 2 2013 10:05AM

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cool thanks for the feedback!

Jan 2 2013 10:20AM

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Thanks for the advice, I had been mulling it over but I have other skis for jibby stuff but I needed something I would feel comfortable railing order will be in soon.

Jan 2 2013 2:02PM

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How are jeronimos compared to Jeffreys? Im looking for a ski that i can just bum around and haul ass on. I like flying on groomers and taking a few runs through the park. I think the FR's are gonna be a little thin for an all mtn ski, yet Jeffreys a little wide for the michigan hills.

Jan 2 2013 8:32PM

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Sorry for the dub post, but I like how the Wrens sound, but they are still a little wide for my likings. I would be keeping the Jeffrey for out west trips and for pow days, while having a daily driver.

Jan 2 2013 8:44PM

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the jmos charge, they go very fast haha, not really chattering at high speeds but the tips are loud, but it really doesnt do anything, they hold there edge super well and you can make huge gs turns or tight slalom turns depending on how much you engage the ski, iv found they rip in crud and soft snow too, and are really stable in the air, although i havnt taken them off big jumps yet, they do seems to really work my shins/legs on the landings being a little fatter and stiffer, but overall a super solid all mountain ski! cant go wrong with the jmo

Jan 2 2013 9:39PM

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Thanks! They sound very similar to the Jeffrey, which i guess is good. Maybe ill wait to see whats in store for next season. Im to busy loving the jeffreys right now. Wish i could get out west though

Jan 2 2013 10:50PM

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Anybody have the weight of 186 BG's vs Tours?

Jan 3 2013 8:22PM

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All 12/13.

176 ON3P Vicik - 1985g
176 ON3P Vicik Tour - 1825g

186 ON3P Vicik - 2290g
186 ON3P Vicik Tour - 2050g

176 ON3P Billy Goat - 2050g
176 ON3P Billy Goat Tour - 1900g

186 ON3P Billy Goat - 2375g
186 ON3P Billy Goat Tour - 2160g

191 ON3P Billy Goat - 2410g
191 ON3P Billy Goat Tour - 2220g

Jan 3 2013 8:36PM

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is it possible to put the vicik topsheet onto the filthy riches?

Jan 3 2013 8:38PM

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Wants dat wolf

Jan 3 2013 8:57PM

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Jan 3 2013 9:00PM

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Just had my first day on my 191 caylors (mounted at rec. with 916s) and I can honestly say they are the best ski I have ridden in my entire life. Granted, they're not 2013s, they're 2010 caylors (bought used), but nonetheless they were just flawless. They had all the attributes that I liked about my old hellbents (playfulness, manuverability, full floatation), but EVERY SINGLE one of the downsides of the hellbents (lack of stability at speed, getting bucked in chop, the feeling of plowing through deep snow slowing you down, etc.) was fixed. I felt like I was riding a pair of fucking monster trucks that could plow over anything and planed perfectly on top of deep snow and felt completely stable at mach looney. For any washingtonians out there, I straightlined from about halfway up the silver king at crystal and they just felt rock solid. They BEGGED to be skied fast, which was one thing the hellbents surely didn't. They're also the stompiest skis I've ever ridden. Super confidence-inspiring for sure. I skied lines I've skied before twice as fast as I've ever skied them, and skied lines I haven't skied before twice as fast as I would have dared on my hellbents, changing from foot-deep week-old powder in some spots to dust on crust to straight up chunder and mank without missing a beat. Also SO durable; I hit some big exposed rocks going faster than I should have and haven't even found a base gouge. To the On3p crew: I applaud you on your magnificent creation. Hands down the most fun I've ever had on a pair of skis. I can't wait to ski them once we get a really big dump. Fuck I'm stoked on these skis. +1 future customer.

-Isak

Jan 4 2013 9:47PM

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Anybody have pics of the base of the filthy rich and the rocker camber profile. Help would be greatly appreciated!

Jan 5 2013 1:42PM

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www.on3pskis.com/products/skis/filthy-rich

Jan 5 2013 2:22PM

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Has anyone had last years BG's? I can get a pair for $150 with Jesters from a coworker..

How stiff are they? And would they be good for BC jumps and that sort?

Jan 6 2013 9:04PM

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