Punx Vs FR's

Filthy Riches i would say, pretty sure the are durable and are great for rails too

thanks +K, also open to other ski suggestions

from what ive heard on NS you cant go wrong with the FR's, apperently they are amazing

IMO I love my 08 pipe cleaners, their a really nice EastCost ski, With all this ice they hold a edge like a MoFo And for me I like them better on rails then my 09 AR6's. But that's just IMO

Sorry I know their not the FS or Punx but, I wanna pic up another set of Armadas that will work the same as what your looking for 60% Rails actually 80% rails, I really wanna practice/sesh more rails. Anyone know what would be the best Armada ski for this ?

Get the halos. http://www.roundhouse-sports.com/armada/armada-halo-ski-2012-%7C-mens/

Still looking for some more input on the Punx Vs FR's

I have never skiied either ski but have heard great things about both, i have however held and flexed the punx and can say they are super light and flexable but from the reviews i have read they still hold up very well on jumps and are durrable, the FRs are rockered but from what I have read a more jump oriented ski, the rocker however should make them buttery for rails, I have never read a bad review from any ON3P ski so you can be pretty sure it is a quality product. That is about all I can give you, since you are so loght though you should look into the armada halos because they will be more flexable for rails. Hope this helps

I'd say the rocker in the Filthy makes them more of a jib ski than a jump ski if I had to choose one. This is due to the tip and tail rocker mainly, it makes the ski easy to get a good press or butter going, and the increased tip height makes them a breeze when you change up on rails. The overall camber is lowered with the rocker, and the price you pay for increased playfulness is a decrease in stability. Its nowhere near like landing a big kicker on a massively rockered pow ski (Pillowfights are truly terrifying off tables, not only do you have a short sweet spot to land but you get buffeted by winds in the air), but the smaller landing zone starts becoming noticeable around 60-70 foot jumps. Some people on our team who consistently go after stuff this big have asked for a stiffer Filthy or Jeronimo, but this should be the last season they have to do that.

13/14 hype thread?

So FR's dont preform well on jumps?

As well as any rockered park ski can. If you arent consistently sizing up jumps in the 60+ft category, its not going to be an issue at all, and the benefits of rocker on everything else might outweigh the slight downside. The Filthy can be a really fun ski and do nearly whatever you ask of it, but I cant say that its apt for absolutely everything, just like any ski on the market. I dont find full cambered park skis as capable on rails and jibs as rockered ones, you should look at what you are riding and what you enjoy riding and choose whatever is best for your specific situation.

And if thats overthinking it, buy a ski solely for the sweet graphics, like the rest of us do.

So if I am looking to really progress my jump game, and still hit rails often, I should look towards the punx?

Its really a call between rocker or no rocker on your park ski. In my experience, rocker may take a day or two to get a feel for, but once you get it and figure out how it skis differently, it can be a ton of fun. Full cambered park skis have their pro's and cons as well compared to a rockered park ski. I know its a unsatisfactory answer to your question, but it really depends on the skier. People who've switched from no rocker to rocker should post their experience.

I would say if you're looking to progress your jump game, and only your jump game, you should get another ski altogether. FRs have a medium flex, but the rocker may make them unstable on the biggest of jumps. Punx are full camber, but are really soft, and so they will also not be the most stable. Something with full camber that's a lot stiffer will be a lot better on jumps but not quite as playful and forgiving on rail. Something like a volkl wall or salomon pro pipe. I would say out of the punx and the FR, go for the FR because you will really notice the instability of the rocker on the most massive of jumps, and even then it shouldn't be too much of an inconvenience, and they will also be a lot more fun on rails due to the rockered sections reducing hookiness. Also, you may enjoy them MORE on jumps due to the rocker because that will pretty much eliminate catching edges on lips/landings. And when you consider the difference in build quality (atomic makes good skis, but on3p simply uses much better, more durable materials) the FR is the clear choice. Its considered one of the best park skis on the market right now for a reason.