Member of the Month

KilaTsunami
October, 2024

Online

Welcome to the Newschoolers forums! You may read the forums as a guest, however you must be a registered member to post. Register to become a member today!

Keyboard / Controller mapping

profile picture
Malcolm
Posts: 15951 - Karma: 9,451
Let's figure out the best possible solution.
Aug 21 2012 4:44PM
16 0
profile picture
SamMcChesney
Posts: 2905 - Karma: 2,199
I think it should be almost identical to skate 3. Where the right joystick controls shifties and grabs. Like LT and RT are just the simple safety grab and then the right joystick control where your hands go. And clicking down the right stick activates butters.
Aug 21 2012 5:10PM
2 0
profile picture
cwphoto
Posts: 2332 - Karma: 780
i dont think lincolns should be changed to triggers. i use the lincoln function to off axis spins, and it would kinda just throw stuff off. and its really nice to have all of the stuff on one joystick
Aug 21 2012 6:21PM
1 0
profile picture
TNORTS
Posts: 2076 - Karma: 2,754
So I've been messing around with the triggers as lincoln loop using that driver posted in the original shred sauce thread. It works well. The triggers do detect sensitivity, so you can do slow lincolns. The one downside as malcolm brought up at some point is that you have to have your fingers on both rb and rt (on an xbox controller) in order to shifty while lincoln. This was awkward at first, but after about 10 to 15 minutes of play, it became pretty natural.

Ultimately, there are really only two viable options when it comes to mapping the lincolns. So why not prompt the player in the beginning to choose trigger controlled lincolns or analog stick controlled lincolns? This would make everyone happy, and plenty of games out there have alternate, preset layouts.


Aug 21 2012 9:26PM
0 0
profile picture
Tree60
Posts: 1438 - Karma: 4,961
Move the lincoln keys, Im thinking right ctrl and 0. Thats what it is in freakout, and its really nice. also, bring back tweaked safety?
Aug 21 2012 10:39PM
0 0
profile picture
Malcolm
Posts: 15951 - Karma: 9,451
I'm fixing the keyboard controls right now and came up with this layout:

Click for larger image

Before bashing it, here are some things to consider.

There's a limit to the number of keys you can hold at the same time and it's different for every keyboard. Let's say you're in the air. You're probably varying between either the left/right and up/down arrow keys. You might replace one of the arrow keys with a lincoln key. You're also grabbing so that's an extra key. 2 if you're tweaking the grab. That's 4 keys. The max on my keyboard is 4-5 depending on which keys are being pressed. It has to do with the way the circuits are arranged on your keyboard.

The modifier keys (Shift, CTRL, Command etc) combined with other keys do different things depending on your OS. I want to find a solution that works for everyone so the layout I made doesn't have them anymore.

Keys that go together can't be placed far away from each other.

Sep 13 2012 4:07PM
0 0
profile picture
TACO-DOG.exe
Posts: 11988 - Karma: 12,261
ri really really really really like that layout
Sep 13 2012 4:39PM
1 0
profile picture
extravert
Posts: 1112 - Karma: 3,174
this looks way better
Sep 13 2012 10:14PM
1 0
profile picture
*laughterbang*
Posts: 360 - Karma: 14
I like grabs as is, change shifty
Sep 13 2012 10:27PM
1 0
profile picture
Malcolm
Posts: 15951 - Karma: 9,451
Where would you put the shifty keys? Remember that they have to be accessible for every grab and they can't be any of the keys that I grayed out.
Sep 13 2012 11:58PM
1 0
profile picture
joelski
Posts: 1014 - Karma: 736
make space shifty when in the air
Sep 14 2012 8:02PM
1 0
profile picture
Chubz.
Posts: 13918 - Karma: 25,661
a and '

those would be perfect in my opinion
Sep 14 2012 8:04PM
1 0
profile picture
Malcolm
Posts: 15951 - Karma: 9,451
I made them F and J in my little mock up because they're closer to the center. They also act as shifty keys. So let's say you're grabbing mute with the Z key and want to tweak it with the ' key. You're fingers would be too far apart.

^^I can't make Space the shifty key in the air because there has to be two keys
Sep 21 2012 5:59PM
1 0
profile picture
Malcolm
Posts: 15951 - Karma: 9,451
I'm starting to think this won't be very good. One thing is people are going to be pissed that it changed. But the current keys let you keep your hand in one spot so you don't always have to looks at the keyboard. Someone suggested putting the shifty keys on E and R which I actually think would be really nice. I'd have to move Restart to the Enter/Return key.
Sep 23 2012 12:29PM
1 0
profile picture
ForeverYung
Posts: 8385 - Karma: 2,060
really like the shifty keys at e and r, makes it very easy to reach

Sep 28 2012 7:42PM
1 0
profile picture
Spinoza
Posts: 12763 - Karma: 3,846
Could someone please post their layout for PS3 controller. I have no Lincoln button and no butter button and can't figure out how to get them working
Oct 16 2012 12:27PM
1 0
profile picture
Montana_Hoodrat
Posts: 1953 - Karma: 1,481
any good controller mappings for the xbox controller yet? i need to do more than just jump and spin....
Oct 27 2012 2:30AM
1 0
profile picture
ThomZenA
Posts: 3 - Karma: 11
can anyone tell me how to do a lincoln loop with xbox 360 controller :D
Feb 11 2013 10:16AM
1 0
All times are Eastern (-5)